Tamil Nadu graduates least employable in IT

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  1. parijataka

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    TN graduates at bottom of IT employability list: Study


    Survey was based on a test taken by 55,000 students in colleges across the country


    The National Employability Report 2011 released recently by IT minister Kapil Sibal has some shocking news for the engineers from Tamil Nadu. Only 10 per cent of the engineering graduates from the State roped in by IT companies are employable — a figure that places the State at the bottom of the list of 16 surveyed.

    The survey included students from government engineering colleges and self financed engineering institutions, many from Chennai, and the rest from colleges across the State.

    The report, prepared by employability assessment company Aspiring Minds, says only 17.45 per cent of the engineers roped in by the IT sector are employable nationally. Tamil Nadu, which has the second-largest pool of engineering students, next only to Andhra Pradesh, fails when it comes to the employability factor, particularly when compared to states such as Delhi and Bihar (35 per cent employability in each) that are among the best performers.

    The study was based on a test taken by 55,000 students in different colleges across the country and had questions to evaluate the aptitude, technical skills and communication skills of final year engineering students. “The other States in the bottom are Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra. The results directly reflect the dip in quality of engineering graduates in states which have a high concentration of engineering colleges,” says Aspiring Minds co-founder Himanshu Agarwal.

    “These states have done well to increase the capacity and fulfil the appetite of the IT industry, but there is lot more to be done to improve the quality,” he says.

    Even on the technical side, students from Bihar and Jharkhand have the highest scores. Karnataka and Kerala seem to be the only southern states that have fared reasonably well.


    While industry experts agree with the findings, senior professors and heads of educational institutions feel the results ignore several crucial aspects related to the State. “Our students may lose out on communication skills, because culturally, there is less exposure to communicating with talking to people. This affects their confidence levels and leadership skills which is what the IT industry looks for, but these children, even those from rural colleges, are good technically,” says C. Thangaraj, vice-chancellor, Anna University of Technology.

    The sample size is also a problem, says R. Krishnan, a senior professor, Anna University. “Many children here go abroad to study and a considerable number get into the best global software firms too. So the ones who are part of the study, may not be the best lot from the State, while their counterparts from other States might be,” he says. However, the issue of quality definitely needs to be addressed, he says, “but not in the light of employability alone though, but if our students actually know what they are doing and how sound is their domain knowledge.”

    “Also, why should one worry if mechanical, electrical and civil engineering students are not employable in IT firms. The skill sets required in every industry is different and it is unfair to club them,” says S. Vaidhyasubramaniam, Dean (Planning and Development), SASTRA University. The problem of students not being equipped with technical skills can also be due to the shortage of trained faculty, and need not necessarily reflect the quality of the students, he says.

    “Recruiters flock to the southern part of the country because they know they get to choose from a large number of graduates,” says Mr. Agarwal. As per NASSCOM records, Tamil Nadu, with 40,000 recruits has the highest number of students placed this year. Of these, 16,000 were recruited from 25 engineering colleges across the State.

    Industry heads, however, have mixed views on this. “The IT sector has not flourished in every state. If it has here, it is because of the adoption of technology,” K. Jayaramakrishnan, vice president, TCS. “Graduates here have fewer problems on the technical side now than they used to Emphasising communication training from the second year of college itself is key,” he says.
     
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    This is actually true. The quality of Engineering colleges have gone down significantly in my state. Engineering colleges have sprung up like mushrooms in my state. Almost every former minister owns one. Its easy money for these punks. Since there are more than ten thousand seats left unfilled, they admit almost anyone who barely passed in the twelfth standard!! What will a student of just 50% of aggregate marks will know? Or to be put differently, his skills will be too insufficient!

    Now add to that the inadequate infrastructure and standard in the teaching faculty at these engineering colleges!!

    But all hopes are not lost! TN govt(JJ) has announced that no more colleges will be opened. Its rather late, but better late than never. Lets hope in future, these inefficient institutes are regulated better to improve the quality of education.
     
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    I always knew these engg guys just dnt have knowledge i love my Bcom :rofl:
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    No man, not everyone are like that... TN still has some of the best Engg colleges in India..... NITT trichy, CEG Guindy Chennai, Anna university, Mefco, MIT chennai, CIT, and PSG coimbatore....etc
     
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    I wonder why? Oh, I know.

    They don't speak English. They only speak in vernacular even in college.

    Guess what happens. They never learn English. Then they end up plagiarizing work and end up spoiling some eminent scientists name because they could not reproduce the English from copyright material in their own way.

    No plagiarism, student copied a few sentences: C N R Rao
    Their self esteem is hit in a big way because the clients don't speak Tamil or Telgu or Punjabi. The guy who only passed moves up the "chain of command" while the guy who topped stays back only because he cannot actually talk to the clients in a language they understand. This has happened so many times that it is impossible even to count.
     
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    Probably true, but that does not imply Tamils are not smart. There are quite a lot of them in ISRO and DRDO. One of India's most celebrated scientists was Dr. Kalam, a Tamil.
     
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    So why the resistance to English? --- Although I will say I'm glad it's my native language and I didn't have to learn it in school. :)
     
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    Where the f is VIT and SSN ? Mepco and CIT are not that good.

    Top few(excluding IIT and NIT) would be CEG, VIT, SSN, PSG.
     
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    Well, I think there might be a catch in the survey! Bihar and Jharkhand have fewer engineering colleges than other states. Say, with not a large number of engg colleges in the state of Bihar, if the recruiters went to BITS Mesra, BITS Patna, NIT Patna and ISM (Indian School of Mines) Dhanbad where the best students would be, the success rate would be pretty high. OTOH they would have gone to a larger number of colleges available in TN or AP covering not just the best colleges.
     
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    dude chill i forgot. CIT is still a good college, you still need to get a very good cut off to get in there. I dont know much about Mepco, but i heard its very good.
     
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    Mepco and CIT are just average colleges, CIT is a govt college with avg ratings and the tuition fee is low so you need good cut off to get the admission.
     
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    :rage: ....but then i just laughed on your stupidity :lol:

    :wat:

    :rofl::rofl:
     
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    its not actually resistance , its just laziness on our part. Even top colleges dont practice spoken english. But the medium of education is uniform Everywhere in TN, is your native language English;);)


    But language has no correlation with the quality of education or the talent of the graduates.
     
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    Not quite sure if a resistance exists. Even spoken Tamil actually uses quite a generous amount of English vocabulary. This is something only Tamils can answer better.
     
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    what the f does language has to do with engineering skills? Do they have to learn telugu or punjabi to be good engineers:frusty::frusty::frusty:



    @Dk...
    Ceg is the top most college in Anna univ. And CIT is still a very good college when compared with the 100+ stupid engg colleges in my states which have sprung up recently , you need 198/200 cut off to get in there and you get near total placement there.
     
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    TN used to be, and still is leading in terms of education. Sad to see such stats coming
     
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    You are missing the point P2 is trying to make mate, he is specifically pointing towards the heavy accent with which people speak English.
     
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    Unfortunately English is the preferred language of all forms of formal communication the world over, including scientific and engineering correspondence ( ie any types of journal), along with corporate communication. So, mastery of this language is mandatory regardless of how talented you are. In ancient India , nobody had to learn a foreign language to learn about mathematics, or astronomy. Aryabhatta, Varahamihir,Brahmagupta etc wrote all their works in sanskrit, while others had to learn sanskrit to learn of their works.

    Unfortunately times have changed. So we have adjust accordingly. Cribbing and moping about is not exactly an option.
     
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    I agree speaking in English can always be a problem in colleges.
    The only time I used English in college was either with staff or with the uber cool chicks :D
     
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    Excellent point.

    So if Bihar has fewer colleges, the competition is high, and only the best of the best get in, and this creates a very good impression of Bihar pass outs. This is quite not the case in states that have a larger number of colleges, in this particular case, TN, and thus they take in not only the best but also the mediocre. Therefore, in absolute numbers, even if TN produces more absolute number of good scholars than say Bihar, the percentage of good scholars among all those that pass out from a state will be higher in case of Bihar than TN.

    P.S.: Bihar was used only as an example and relying on the above quote. I have not verified the statistics of Bihar via-à-vis TN.
     
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