Re: Taliban leader Mullah Omar vowed to take Kabul 'within a week' of
When NATO forces pulls out what help can India provide to Afghanistan in case ISI backed terrorist groups become bold enough to launch attacks in future?
EDIT: What is interesting is that the Afghan military budget (aid of course) is twice that of the Pakistan Army.
Any possibility of Amanullah Saleh becoming president ?
The only people they'll end up fighting in the same vicious style like the Soviets,NA are the ANA and other CIA friendly warlords. They know it very well they aren't no match for the US hence you don't see them fighting with the same ferocity as was with the Soviets, who though were a superpower too but that fight was for all different reasons leading to a USSR vs Muslims world fight in that region.
I do agree that the one-eyed emir will come back to fight and with ISI support nonetheless but the ANA is lets say a better equipped,better trained and yes experienced force too for all the raids they have conducted along with ISAF forces so the fighting will be bad a**, Pakistan's support might not match the ones like the mid 90's because Pakistan wasn't in the horrid state it is in today, yes you can support but with more support you need to spend more, I don't see the ISI doing that and yes let me add here Pakistan will have to fight the TTP and the anti Pakistan Army elements that are in Swat, these people didn't even exist during the Soviet pullout.
The last war was a war in which Pakistan supported these very people, this time they have had to fight them and its been said that a lot of these elements have been royally pissed off because of this hence you see people like the TTP.
All this taken into consideration will still not stop the vicious fighting to be seen in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. It's time we seal 'em borders pretty tight, let these clowns fight it out among themselves.
Forget logic. It is Afghans themselves who choose Mullah over America (=progress and civilization)
Partition may be the way to contain mullahs.
look, USSR didn't do continuous years long bombing on the Afghan civilians like US, including their continuous efforts to convert the Afghans into Christianity..... USSR never did mass bombing on the Afghan civilians, like how US/West have been bombing on the different marriage ceremonies/ residential areas through drones in search of Taliban fighters. USSR never fought for culture/ religion/race etc in Afghan
USSR's Afghan government was even recognized by UN, had recognition from many countries also. while US's made Taliban were the only militia group
9/11 2001, the cause of Afghan intervention, resulted in death of around 5000 US's civilians, while US has scored over 50,000+ civilians only in Afghan since 2002....... there might be many generation of those Afghan's, who might be willing to take revenge for the way their family members were killed by US's forces, mainly in drone attacks on the common public in hunt of Taliban Fighters. in case of any new 9/11 type attack on US/NATO members, not only Afghan but even Pakistan's government may hardly say that neither US/NATO were punished for the way they did in that region nor they could find out those Pushtuns who conducted the recent attacks on the US/NATO countries. as it was always clear that US/West won't bomb on the western civilians in the same way as they did in that region in hunt of few militants.....:ranger:
i don't mean that any type of terror attack on US/EU is justified as they also did the same in Afghan/ Pak's tribal areas
. but I'm just trying to confirm the usual talks on the Pakistan's Afghan's forums, as i have read during last 6-7 years, mainly since 2007. :thumb:
SU and US were just opposite. and one 'basic' difference was the '
democracy' itself. and you dont '
believe' in 'democracy', you are less likely to be considered even as 'human'
.....
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The Crusade for a Christian Military, the US/NATO forces
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The military is denying it allows its soldiers to proselytize to Afghans, following the release of footage showing US soldiers in Afghanistan discussing how to distribute Bibles translated into Pashto and Dari. We speak to Air Force veteran and former Reagan administration counsel Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and journalist Jeff Sharlet, author of a Harper's Magazine article on "The Crusade for a Christian Military."
The former prime minister of Afghanistan Ahmed Shah Ahmedzai has called for an investigation into allegations that US soldiers are trying to convert Afghans to Christianity, saying: "This is a complete deviation from what they are supposed to be doing."
His comments come after
a report on Al Jazeera showed footage of soldiers at Bagram air base discussing how to distribute Bibles translated into Pashto and Dari. The US military is denying it allows its soldiers to proselytize to Afghans. The military claims the Bibles shown in the video had been confiscated and destroyed and were "never distributed." Admiral Mike Mullen told a Pentagon briefing Monday: "It certainly is, from the United States military's perspective, not our position to ever push any specific kind of religion, period."
The Pentagon has also sharply criticized Al Jazeera for releasing the year-old footage which was shot by filmmaker and former soldier Brian Hughes. Military spokesperson Colonel Greg Julian said: "Most of this is taken out of context. This is irresponsible and inappropriate journalism. There is no effort to go out and proselytize to Afghans."
On Tuesday, Al Jazeera released unedited footage of the US soldiers' bible study in Bagram to counter the Pentagon"s allegations. These excerpts from the unedited video show military chaplain Captain Emmit Furner leading the discussion on the definition of the US Central Command's General Order Number One that explicitly forbids active duty troops from trying to convert people to any religion.
Excerpts of Al Jazeera footage.
I'm joined now by two guests who have closely followed this story. Jeff Sharlet is a contributing editor for Harper's Magazine and joins me from Rochester, New York. He is author of "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power" which is coming out in paperback next month. His latest article is the cover story of the May issue of Harper's magazine. Its called "Jesus Killed Mohammed: The Crusade for a Christian Military."
We're also joined from Albuquerque, New Mexico by Mikey Weinstein, an Air Force veteran and founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. A registered Republican, he served as legal counsel to the Reagan administration for three years and is the author of "With God On Our Side: One Man's War Against an Evangelical Coup in America's Military."
We spoke with Colonel Greg Julian in Afghanistan and invited him on the program but he declined to join us.
Jeff Sharlet, contributing editor for Harper's Magazine. He is author of The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, which is coming out in paperback next month.
Mikey Weinstein, Air Force veteran and founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. A registered Republican, he served as legal counsel to the Reagan administration for three years. He is the author of With God on Our Side: One Man's War Against an Evangelical Coup in America's Military.
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here, from 2.50min onward, if we try to make sense of the soldier's instructor then he clearly means to say to the US's soldiers that they are fighting for Christianity in Afghan and its their duty to serve Jesus. a clear sense, as explained in the same video after that also
in fact, US is habituated of organising wars for Christianity on time to time, see during Iraq War also as below: