Take 'military action' over South China Sea disputes: Chinese paper

[Ray]

Mere sabre rattling.

If China does anything of what Global Times and others are stating, it will undo all the goodwill she has generated by soft loans, military aid, infrastructure building in many countries, especially in Africa.

China is very conscious of building the image that they are a 'responsible' nation and out to do international good.

Pakistan too will be worried because it will wonder if the Chinese troops in Gilgit Balistan will ever leave or make that territory defacto extension of Xinjiang!!


The CAR nations will get baulked too!

 

[nimo_cn]

sigh, when are our Indian friends gonna learn something? china and Vietnam recently signed an agreement over south china sea, which was opposed by Phi because she felt betrayed by Vietnam. you expect a war between us, sorry that is not going to happen.

if there is any conflict that happens in south china sea, it will be between china and India if India insists to meddle in. that is what article is saying.

i hope you can figure out why china would rather choose to confront India than V and P

 

[Ray]

sigh, when are our Indian friends gonna learn something? china and Vietnam recently signed an agreement over south china sea, which was opposed by Phi because she felt betrayed by Vietnam. you expect a war between us, sorry that is not going to happen.

if there is any conflict that happens in south china sea, it will be between china and India if India insists to meddle in. that is what article is saying.

i hope you can figure out why china would rather choose to confront India than V and P

No, we do not expect China to go to war at all.

Sabre rattling at best.

Global Times feels that China should go to war.

Global Times is a Chinese newspaper and which is CCP controlled.

Direct you sighs to them! Thanks.

If China wishes to have a problem with India over oil exploration in the South China Sea, which you call 'meddling', then what can India do, but defend their international right.

Have you ever wondered what China is doing in the Northern Areas of Kashmir, that is current under Pakistan occupation? That, as per Chinese way of approach, should also be termed as 'meddling'. Right?

 

[sandeepdg]

sigh, when are our Indian friends gonna learn something? china and Vietnam recently signed an agreement over south china sea, which was opposed by Phi because she felt betrayed by Vietnam. you expect a war between us, sorry that is not going to happen.

if there is any conflict that happens in south china sea, it will be between china and India if India insists to meddle in. that is what article is saying.

i hope you can figure out why china would rather choose to confront India than V and P

Yeah, well neither do we want a war with China. But if you try anything stupid, we will be more than glad to teach you a lesson that you so deserve and put you in your place.

 

[cir]

you guys got it all wrong.

if China ever opens fire in the South China Sea, her primary target will be India, for it is India that is poking its nose in an area it has no claim on.

Concentrate your force and strike the enemy that's most vulnerable and to ur lasting advantage.

 

[Daredevil]

you guys got it all wrong.

if China ever opens fire in the South China Sea, her primary target will be India, for it is India that is poking its nose in an area it has no claim on.

Concentrate your force and strike the enemy that's most vulnerable and to ur lasting advantage.

All talk and bluster. If you really have the capability then let's decide things in South China sea.

 

[cir]

there are many ethnic Chinese living in the Phillppines. when there is a war between China and the aid island, these Chinese should strive for indepence the way the Singaporeans did. China is in a position to help these people to acheive their goals. a few islands will do just fine. And since the P-island's economy is in the control of the ethnic Chinese(accounting for over 75% of the total output, the P-island will be 10 times poorer that it is today as a result.

Same for Vietnam. this time, if a war ever breaks out between V and C, C will certainly enourage the ethnic Chinese to strive for independence. Northern Vietnam will return to what it used to be, i.e. a territory controlled by the Chinese.

 

[Ray]

you guys got it all wrong.

if China ever opens fire in the South China Sea, her primary target will be India, for it is India that is poking its nose in an area it has no claim on.

Concentrate your force and strike the enemy that's most vulnerable and to ur lasting advantage.

Do so.

and then.......?

 

[Ray]

there are many ethnic Chinese living in the Phillppines. when there is a war between China and the aid island, these Chinese should strive for indepence the way the Singaporeans did. China is in a position to help these people to acheive their goals. a few islands will do just fine. And since the P-island's economy is in the control of the ethnic Chinese(accounting for over 75% of the total output, the P-island will be 10 times poorer that it is today as a result.

Same for Vietnam. this time, if a war ever breaks out between V and C, C will certainly enourage the ethnic Chinese to strive for independence. Northern Vietnam will return to what it used to be, i.e. a territory controlled by the Chinese.

First handle the Muslims in Xinjiang and then talk about Indonesia, Vietnam and Singapore!

Revisit history and see how the neighbouring countries love you!

Inspite of your police state, the Muslims of Xinjiang has shoved a bamboo into you chaps where it hurts.

Think that over!

If North Vietnam will come over to China "where it belongs', how come it did not when you attacked Vietnam and the same North Vietnamese gave you a bloody nose?

Are you in your cups?

 

[sandeepdg]

there are many ethnic Chinese living in the Phillppines. when there is a war between China and the aid island, these Chinese should strive for indepence the way the Singaporeans did. China is in a position to help these people to acheive their goals. a few islands will do just fine. And since the P-island's economy is in the control of the ethnic Chinese(accounting for over 75% of the total output, the P-island will be 10 times poorer that it is today as a result.

Same for Vietnam. this time, if a war ever breaks out between V and C, C will certainly enourage the ethnic Chinese to strive for independence. Northern Vietnam will return to what it used to be, i.e. a territory controlled by the Chinese.

Utter bullshit ! North or South doesn't matter, they all hate you. Your Chinese population numbers just a million, out of total population of 90 million in Vietnam, out of which 86 % are ethnic Vietnamese. During the last China-Vietnam war, some half a million Chinese ran away from Vietnam, most of whom were expelled across the border with China.

There will be no North Vietnam anymore, you will just get your asses kicked just like the last time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Vietnam

 

[captonjohn]

sigh, when are our Indian friends gonna learn something? china and Vietnam recently signed an agreement over south china sea, which was opposed by Phi because she felt betrayed by Vietnam. you expect a war between us, sorry that is not going to happen.

if there is any conflict that happens in south china sea, it will be between china and India if India insists to meddle in. that is what article is saying.

i hope you can figure out why china would rather choose to confront India than V and P

We already know that China would confront with India in South China Sea. Tell us something what we really don't know. And if oil exploration in South China Sea controlled by Vietnam by obeying international law is MEDDLE then sending Chinese troops in POK and building infrastructure in the disputed land claimed by India is four times bigger MEDDLE by you guys. So first see yourself and correct your actions then come to talk to us. Now regarding capability then Chinese navy is not capable to confront with India so better you mind your actions or you don't have nose to MIDDLE anywhere.

 

[asianobserve]

there are many ethnic Chinese living in the Phillppines. when there is a war between China and the aid island, these Chinese should strive for indepence the way the Singaporeans did. China is in a position to help these people to acheive their goals. a few islands will do just fine. And since the P-island's economy is in the control of the ethnic Chinese(accounting for over 75% of the total output, the P-island will be 10 times poorer that it is today as a result.

Same for Vietnam. this time, if a war ever breaks out between V and C, C will certainly enourage the ethnic Chinese to strive for independence. Northern Vietnam will return to what it used to be, i.e. a territory controlled by the Chinese.

You don't know what you're talking about. Filipino ethnic Chinese do not congregate in a well defined section of the Philippines unlike in Singapore. They are widely dispersed and assimilated into Philippine society. They intermarried with Malay-Filipinos, European-Filipinos (with Spanish, American and Swiss bloods). Their assimilation into Philippine society is unlike in Malaya. They are actually very much Filipinos. In fact the richest of these Taipans are doing business in China (malls, restaurant chains, factories, banks, hotels) but none adopted Chinese citizenship.

I always wondered why no Filipino-chinese, Chinese-Malaysians, Indonesian-Chinese, Singaporean, Thai are applying for Chinese citizenship? BTW, until now, if you check out the immigration offices in KL and Manila you will see numerous ethnic Chinese applying for their citizenships...

 

[Zebra]

US, Vietnam start first military relationship

Agence France-Presse

6:16 pm | Tuesday, August 2nd, 2011 .
WASHINGTON—The United States and Vietnam on Monday opened their first formal military relationship since their war, another sign of growing cooperation amid high tensions between Hanoi and Beijing.

The US and Vietnamese militaries signed an agreement in Hanoi setting up cooperation in health, setting the stage for exchanges and research collaboration in military medicine, a US Navy statement said.

The former war foes have been steadily building ties and last month held a joint naval drill. But Monday's agreement marks the first formal military cooperation since the normalization of diplomatic relations in 1995, the navy said.

Vice Admiral Adam M. Robinson Jr., the navy's surgeon general, said that the agreement was not about politics and that the United States hoped for more collaboration on health issues around the region.

"Medicine and medical research are universal languages that all countries and cultures understand. Diseases affect us all in the same way," Robinson said in the statement.

"By working together in areas such as infectious disease research, we not only help each other, we help the world meet these global health challenges," he said.

Despite memories of war, Vietnam has been eager for broader ties with the United States amid a flare-up in its historically tense relationship with China.

Both Vietnam and the Philippines have accused China in recent months of provocations in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), where Beijing has a number of territorial disputes.

The United States has stood behind the Southeast Asian nations, repeatedly urging freedom of navigation. However, the United States described last week's exercises off Vietnam's central coast as non-combat, saying they focused on areas such as navigation and maintenance.

The United States is expanding military cooperation despite concern over Vietnam's human rights record. The United States last week demanded the release of Nguyen Van Ly, a Catholic priest and democracy advocate who was re-arrested despite concerns over his health.

A number of US lawmakers have urged President Barack Obama's administration to make better relations with Vietnam contingent on improvements in human rights.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/7945/us-vietnam-start-first-military-relationship

 

[asianobserve]

Philippines seizes Chinese boats: Philippines seizes Chinese boats | Inquirer Global Nation

 

[SHASH2K2]

Philippines seizes Chinese boats: Philippines seizes Chinese boats | Inquirer Global Nation

COmmon mighty china . Philippines is just an insect ready to be smashed under mighty chinese boots.

 

[Adux]

COmmon mighty china . Philippines is just an insect ready to be smashed under mighty chinese boots.

Chinese have to surpass 100's of years of western strategic plays. The whole of South China Sea is riddled with US allies. All those islands these nations have all around the world too, Aruba, Deigo Garcia, Christmas Islands etc etc. China and India will have to play harder than Westerner's had played before, they took what they wanted like a candy from a kid.

 

[nimo_cn]

We already know that China would confront with India in South China Sea. Tell us something what we really don't know. And if oil exploration in South China Sea controlled by Vietnam by obeying international law is MEDDLE then sending Chinese troops in POK and building infrastructure in the disputed land claimed by India is four times bigger MEDDLE by you guys. So first see yourself and correct your actions then come to talk to us. Now regarding capability then Chinese navy is not capable to confront with India so better you mind your actions or you don't have nose to MIDDLE anywhere.

There are no Chinese troops in POK, it was all made up by your over-sensitive media.

The SCS is not controlled by Vietnam, that is why Vietnamness last oil exploration ended up with cable being cut off by Chinese coast guard.

The two blocks offered by Vietnam are claimed by China, and China will do something to stop any country from drilling oil there.

There is no better target than India for China to demonstrate her will to protect her sovereignty over SCS.


1>The consequences of targeting India only will be much less significant than targeting an ASEAN country. Targeting an ASEAN country will make countries aound SCS nervous, they may fear they will be the next. Targetting India only won't have that consequences because everyone understands India is not supposed to show up in that region, and India is just trying to contain China while China is just protecting herself. In one word, all India is doing is making herself a good target.

2>India is far away from SCS, China can do everything to Indian ships that enters Chinese waters without any immediate response from Indian navy. When India find out what is happening to their ships, it is too late for India to do anything.

3>Indian navy lacks the ability to retaliate in SCS.

4>No one is gonna rescue Indians if Indian ships are attacked in waters claimed by China, Vietanam didn't even rescue their own ships, I can't expect much of them if something happens to Indian ships.

5>India is a large country which fits to be taught a lesson and made a good example.


What is very likely to happen will be:
1> India send ships to explore oil in Chinese waters
2>Chinese coast guard find out and cut off the cables
3>India protests and condemns China, while China tells India to calm down.
4>nothing happens except chest beating in DFI.


Vietnam is doing very smart by inviting India into the party, but India is making a foolish decision by coming to the party. Vietnamness have seen through India.

 

[Iamanidiot]

There are no Chinese troops in POK, it was all made up by your over-sensitive media.

The SCS is not controlled by Vietnam, that is why Vietnamness last oil exploration ended up with cable being cut off by Chinese coast guard.

The two blocks offered by Vietnam are claimed by China, and China will do something to stop any country from drilling oil there.

There is no better target than India for China to demonstrate her will to protect her sovereignty over SCS.


1>The consequences of targeting India only will be much less significant than targeting an ASEAN country. Targeting an ASEAN country will make countries aound SCS nervous, they may fear they will be the next. Targetting India only won't have that consequences because everyone understands India is not supposed to show up in that region, and India is just trying to contain China while China is just protecting herself. In one word, all India is doing is making herself a good target.

2>India is far away from SCS, China can do everything to Indian ships that enters Chinese waters without any immediate response from Indian navy. When India find out what is happening to their ships, it is too late for India to do anything.

3>Indian navy lacks the ability to retaliate in SCS.

4>No one is gonna rescue Indians if Indian ships are attacked in waters claimed by China, Vietanam didn't even rescue their own ships, I can't expect much of them if something happens to Indian ships.

5>India is a large country which fits to be taught a lesson and made a good example.


What is very likely to happen will be:
1> India send ships to explore oil in Chinese waters
2>Chinese coast guard find out and cut off the cables
3>India protests and condemns China.
4>nothing happens except chest beating in DFI.


Vietnam is doing very smart by inviting India into the party, but India is making a foolish decision by coming to the party. Vietnamness have seen through India.

Typical bully rhetoric of bluffing not effective always

 

[nimo_cn]

Typical bully rhetoric of bluffing not effective always

It is just all like 1962, Indians called Chinese bluffing and proceeded with their forward-policy after primier Zhou made his last warning to India. I won't be surprised India gets humiliated again in SCS.

 

[Iamanidiot]

It is just all like 1962, Indians called Chinese bluffing and proceeded with their forward-policy after primier Zhou made his last warning to India. I won't be surprised India gets humiliated again in SCS.

If so please move the PLAN and PLA