Taiwan allows Dalai Lama to visit typhoon victims

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  1. IBRIS

    IBRIS Senior Member Senior Member

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    :Laie_22:Taiwan has announced that it will allow the Dalai Lama to visit the island next week to comfort victims of Typhoon Morakot which killed nearly 700 people after triggering a series of mudslides earlier this month.


    The Dalai Lama will go to Taiwan to comfort typhoon victims
    The decision to grant a visa to the Tibetan spiritual leader is likely to strain Taiwan's relations with mainland China which have improved markedly in the last 15 months following the election of a more pro-Beijing government.

    China, which labels the Dalai Lama a separatist, has a history of angry diplomatic reactions against countries that host Tibet's leader-in-exile.

    Last December China cancelled an important EU-China trade summit after the French President Nicolas Sarkozy met the Dalai Lama at a meeting of Nobel Laureates in Gdansk, Poland.

    And last March South Africa's was accused of caving into Chinese diplomatic pressure after it refused the Dalai Lama a visa for a pre-Football World Cup peace conference, sparking outrage around the world.

    Taiwan's President Ma Ying-jeou, who refused the Dalai Lama a visa last year for fear of souring improving ties with Beijing, said that his government had agreed to allow the visit to enable the Dalai Lama "to pray for the souls of the deceased and seek blessings for the survivors of the typhoon."

    Analysts said President Ma, who has been under growing political pressure for his government's failure to react quickly to the Morakot disaster, had risked a political backlash if he had declined the invitation which was issued by leaders of the opposition Democratic Progressive Party.

    "This is obviously politically motivated," said George Tsai Wei, a political scientist at the Chinese Cultural University in Taipei. "The purpose is to embarrass Ma and put him in an awkward position."

    On Wednesday the opposition, which disagrees with Mr Ma's policy of deepening economic ties with China, piled the pressure on Mr Ma, warning that failure to allow the visit would mean he was not concerned about the plight of victims. "Don't tell me you need approval from Beijing," taunted Cheng Wen-tsan, the opposition spokesman.

    The government sought to play down the political significance of the visit in an attempt to mitigate the potential damage to relations with Beijing. "The visit is based on humanitarian and religious considerations which should not hurt cross-strait ties," said presidential spokesman Wang Yu-chi.

    The Dalai Lama, whose office in New Delhi said the Dalai Lama would be "very happy and pleased" to visit southern Taiwan, will make a five-day tour of the worst-hit southern region of the country, starting on Monday.

    The visit will be third time the Dalai Lama has visited Taiwan since his first visit in 1997 which was followed by a second visit in 2001, both of which drew strong condemnation from China.

    China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs had given no formal reaction to the decision by midday on Thursday.

    Taiwan allows Dalai Lama to visit typhoon victims - Telegraph
     
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  3. Antimony

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    Good,

    PRC and ROC were getting a bit too buddy-buddy lately
     
  4. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Taiwan maybe trying to prove they are still an independent country.
     
  5. F-14

    F-14 Global Defence Moderator Senior Member

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    ho goody i am lovin it wonder what the big dragon will do
     
  6. Officer of Engineers

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    Odds are that he'll get a lecture that Tibet is an integral part of China.
     
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    F-14 Global Defence Moderator Senior Member

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    Ho god i bet it will be a very boring lecture :D
     
  8. 1.44

    1.44 Member of The Month SEPTEMBER 2009 Senior Member

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    Don't you love it when people play poke the dragon in the eye?:D
     
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    :rofl: good one mate
     
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    Taiwan's President Has No Plans to Meet Dalai Lama



    TAIPEI (Reuters) - Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou will not meet the Dalai Lama when the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader visits in the coming week, the president's office said on Saturday, a move aimed at avoiding renewed tensions with China.

    The Dalai Lama, branded a separatist by Beijing, will arrive late on Sunday for about five days to comfort victims of Typhoon Morakot which triggered Taiwan's worst floods in 50 years and killed some 570 people, mainly in the south.

    "We did not plan a meeting between the president and the Dalai Lama," said Tony Wang, a presidential spokesman. "The reason why we approved the Dalai Lama's visit was based on religious and humanitarian considerations."

    The Dalai Lama's visit, at the invitation of Taiwan's opposition, brings together two of China's most sensitive territorial claims -- the Tibet Autonomous Region and self-ruled Taiwan.

    It comes as relations between China and Taiwan have steadily improved since Ma took office last year.

    "They (China) will have more trust in Ma in handling the Dalai Lama matter, but they will watch the process closely," said Andrew Yang, secretary-general of the Chinese Council of Advanced Policy Studies in Taipei.

    China could react negatively if the Dalai Lama uses Taiwan as a stage to promote democracy in Tibet, meets Tibet independence groups or makes any anti-Beijing remarks.

    Beijing has criticised Taiwan's main opposition Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) for inviting the Dalai Lama, but did not blame Ma, indicating that it did not want to escalate the issue.

    The DPP issued a statement saying that, by criticising the visit, China had violated democratic values.

    "The Beijing government shouldn't and has no right to interfere in this matter," it said.

    The Dalai Lama, who was in Taiwan in 1997 and 2001, will spend most of his time in the south holding prayer sessions with typhoon victims and meeting with religious organisations, officials said

    On Friday, China gave the green light to 16 airlines to operate regular direct flights to Taiwan in a sign that the impending visit would not harm trade ties.

    http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/08/29/world/international-uk-taiwan-dalai.html
     
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    it is the pro-taiwan-independence oppostion party DDP that raised a political trap for the pro-unity ruling pary Kuomingtang
     
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    A pro-China unification demonstrator holds a China's national flag as the Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama arrives at the Taoyuan High Speed Rail station in Taoyuan, northern Taiwan, Sunday, Aug. 30, 2009. Taiwanese officials said Sunday they hope the Dalai Lama will stay clear of politics to avoid angering China during his visit to comfort victims of the island's worst storm in 50 years.

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    Dalai Lama tells Taiwan he's dedicated to democracy

    Kaohsiung (Taiwan): The Dalai Lama, on a controversial humanitarian visit to flood-ravaged Taiwan denounced by China, steered clear of talking about Tibet on Monday but said he was dedicated to the promotion of democracy.

    China has lambasted the visit by a man it brands a separatist, but it is considered unlikely to jeopardise growing economic ties between the long-time political rivals, and even on Monday the two sides launched their first regular direct flights in decades.

    The Tibetan spiritual leader arrived late on Sunday in self-ruled Taiwan, claimed by China since 1949, to comfort victims of the island's worst typhoon in 50 years which struck this month, triggering floods that killed about 570 people.

    "I'm very, very strict, (the trip is of a) non-political nature," the Dalai Lama told reporters, appearing to try to reassure Beijing.

    The 1988 Nobel peace prize winner, after leading prayers at a the site of a giant mudslide at the village of Hsiao Lin, did not mention Tibet but told reporters he was in favour of democracy, a comment apparently aimed at Communist-ruled China.

    "We are not seeking separation for Taiwan, but the fate of Taiwan depends on the more than 20 million people. You are enjoying democracy and that you must preserve," he said. "I myself am totally dedicated to the promotion of democracy."

    As with its denunciation when the visit was announced last week, China focused its criticism on the opposition Democratic Progressive Party, not the ruling Nationalist Party (KMT) of China-friendly President Ma Ying-jeou.

    "The Democratic Progressive Party has ulterior motives to instigate the Dalai Lama's visit to Taiwan, who has long been engaged in separatist activities," a spokesman for China's State Council's Taiwan Affairs Office was quoted as saying by Xinhua news agency.

    "We resolutely oppose this and our position is firm and clear," the spokesman said. "The Dalai Lama's visit to Taiwan is bound to have a negative influence on the relations between the mainland and Taiwan."

    Bureau Report

    Dalai Lama tells Taiwan he`s dedicated to democracy
     
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    Taiwan: Protesters accuse Dalai Lama of staging 'political show'

    Kaoshiung (Taiwan): A group of 30 people who said they were Taiwan typhoon victims demonstrated against the Dalai Lama on Monday, accusing him of using a visit to the island to stage a "political show."

    The group, from Taiwan's aboriginal community, were standing outside the Tibetan spiritual leader's hotel in the southern city of Kaohsiung, holding up banners, one reading: "We don't want Dalai politics."
    The Dalai Lama is only staging a political show here," said the leader of the protesters, who declined to give his name.

    "If the Dalai Lama really wants to help victims and show respect, he should stay in an aboriginal village, not in a big building like this," he said, pointing towards the hotel.

    The Dalai Lama arrived in Taiwan late Sunday for a five-day visit which he has said is entirely "non-political" and meant only to provide comfort for victims of Typhoon Morakot, which hit earlier this month, killing at least 571 people.

    His trip has angered China, which accuses the Dalai Lama of being a separatist seeking independence for his Himalayan homeland.

    Beijing reacts angrily to any country hosting the Dalai Lama, whom it accuses of trying to split Tibet from China, a position that has only hardened after deadly violence in the Himalayan region in March 2008.

    Taiwan: Protesters accuse Dalai Lama of staging `political show`
     
  15. yuebaili

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    台湾邀请达赖喇嘛。中国大陆的应该害臊。 Taiwan invites Dalai. Mailand Chinese should be ashamed.

    藏族的活佛达赖喇嘛下个星期要访问台湾。台湾跟中国不一样。中国说他的坏话诽谤他。台湾尊重他欢迎他。台湾这样做也尊重藏族。中国领导人非常生气。 但是幸好由于台湾还是独立的国家,所以他们没办法。如果中国独裁政府不下台,西藏也应该追求独立。

    Dalai Lama, the living Budda of the Tibetans will visit Taiwan next week. Taiwan is very different from China. China is slandering Dalai Lama. Taiwan respects him and welcomes him. By doing this Taiwan is also respecting the Tibetan people. Chinese leaders are very angry. But as Taiwan still is independend they fortunately can do nothing about it. If CCP dictatorship will continue to rule China, then Tibet has every reason to seek independence.
     
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    The Tibetans were too much involved in the religious virtue and did not have a consulate in any country other than India. They had a pact with the Chinese that they would not offend the Tibet region and would secure it. When the Chinese forces marched in to Tibet, they did not have anyone to oppose them except some rebel monks who decided not to part with the Chinese.

    India protested but did not intervene militarily, if we would have done we would not have any border tensions between us and china. As Tibet would have been an independent country and peaceful place to live in.

    Dalai Lama is a great soul, Taiwan is doing nothing wrong in respecting and welcoming him.

    I am sure that one day Tibet will be once again become a Independent Nation.
     
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    Dalai Lama leads mass prayers as China metes out punishment

    Kaohsiung: The Dalai Lama Tuesday led thousands in prayer in his first big public appearance since arriving in Taiwan, as China signalled its ire by postponing or scaling down planned events with the island.
    Tibet's exiled spiritual leader emerged in front of a crowd of more than 10,000 in a stadium in the southern city of Kaohsiung, underlining the devout Buddhism of a large part of the population on the island.

    The ceremony at the Kaohsiung Dome was focused on the tragedy which struck last month when Typhoon Morakot swept in from the Pacific, leaving at least 571 dead in its trail.

    "My goal here is to seek blessing and ward off misfortune for the typhoon victims," the Dalai Lama said.

    The 74-year-old monk has said repeatedly that his visit is non-political, but the trip has nevertheless met strong opposition in China, which sees him as a "splittist" bent on independence for his Himalayan homeland.

    The Chinese view is supported by small but vocal groups in Taiwan, and today morning protesters favouring Taiwan unification with the mainland appeared in Kaohsiung, engaging in shouting matches with Dalai Lama supporters.

    However, few of the believers inside the Kaohsiung Dome appeared to be thinking about politics.

    "I'm very moved that the Dalai Lama has come to Taiwan to visit the typhoon victims," said Vivien Cheng, a bank employee.

    Bureau Report
    Dalai Lama leads mass prayers as China metes out punishment
     
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    Dalai Lama calls on Taiwan to safeguard democracy

    The Dalai Lama exhorted Taiwan to safeguard its democracy, interspersing prayers for the victims of Typhoon Morakot with a challenge to Communist China. The call on Monday from the Tibetan spiritual leader appeared to contradict assurances that his five-day visit to comfort the victims of the worst storm to hit the island in 50 years would steer clear of the political _ a concern for President Ma Ying-jeou's administration, which is seeking closer ties with the mainland. Kneeling on the ground to pray for the hundreds killed in this remote mountain village when torrential rains triggered two catastrophic mudslides earlier this month, the Dalai Lama acknowledged that Taiwan and China should maintain "their very close and unique links."

    However, he said, Taiwan should never lose sight of the importance of its democratic political system, which stands in marked contrast to China's one-party dictatorship. "You (now) enjoy democracy," he said, addressing a crowd of several hundred amid a landscape of jagged boulders and twisted, upended tree trunks. "That must be preserved. No matter what political party, think common interest and work united." The trip has infuriated Beijing, which claims Taiwan as part of its territory and resents any outside effort to influence its future. It is likely to be particularly irked by such comments from the Dalai Lama, whom it denounces as a "splittist" _ alleging he seeks independence for his native Tibet.

    Beijing also regularly uses that sobriquet for advocates of formal independence for Taiwan, which split from the mainland amid civil war in 1949 _ ten years before Chinese troops invaded Tibet and sent the Dalai Lama into exile in northern India. The Buddhist spiritual leader, however, told the crowd, which included friends and relatives of those killed in Morakot, that he had a moral responsibility to visit the island _ a seeming rebuke to his detractors, both in China, and here in Taiwan, where some 60 pro-China demonstrators hurled insults at him as he boarded a special train for the southern city of Kaohsiung on Sunday night. But in Shiao Lin itself, some 50 former residents returned to greet him, many wearing T-shirts with pictures of the village before the mudslides buried the community under tons of rocks and rubble. His arrival on the island created a dilemma for President Ma, who in his 15 months in office has turned the corner on his predecessor's pro-independence policies, reducing tensions across the 100-mile- (160-kilometer-) wide Taiwan Strait to their lowest point in six decades.

    While Beijing has said it "resolutely opposes" the Dalai Lama's visit, it has been careful not to blame Ma personally, putting the onus instead on the opposition mayors and magistrates who issued the invitation _ an apparent effort to keep cross-strait relations going on their current positive track.

    Dalai Lama calls on Taiwan to safeguard democracy- Hindustan Times
     
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    I am sure that your illusion could not reach its reality ever.
    Tibet being a part of China is the truth that accepted and respected by almost 99% countries in the world including India.

    Dalai Lama is a leader of religion but not political instigator. But in the recent years, his behavior and speach in the public disappointing Chinese people and government very much.

    The odds are that Dalai wanna rise his personal international political reputation or he must be crazy.
     
  20. nimo_cn

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    How many times should we reiterate that Taiwan and Tibet are integral parts of China? Maybe i should remind you that Inida government - the democratic government which represents the Inidan people, admits that fact. Then what the hell are you doing here? you want free tibet, free taiwan?
    My indian friends, pls leave us alone, mind your own business, trust me, all the problems China are dealing with are happening in India, too.
     
  21. amitkriit

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    China must get a taste of it's own medicine, they have been assisting our biggest antagonist and formenting troubles in Indian North-East for decades. India for now accepts "one China policy", but things may change based on how China reciprocates to our goodwill gesture, as far as I know China wants to divide India into 30 pieces with using "Borrowed Knife".
     

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