Syrian troops storm restive Hama province : Assad's Time up ?

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    Syrian Troops Storm Restive Hama Province



    Syrian troops have stormed the central province of Hama, with a heavy barrage of shelling, activists in the area told the DPA news agency on Tuesday.

    "The tanks have seized all entrances to the city and all communication networks were cut," said Abu Abdullah, a member of the Local Coordination Committees (LCC), which organises protests on the ground.

    "The people are trying to flee the targeted areas but the army has set up checkpoints to prevent anyone from leaving the city," he added.

    In the northern province of Idlib, security forces used fire to disperse around 10,000 mourners who took to the streets on Tuesday for a funeral procession of a protester killed the day before, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

    The military operation came a day after Syria rejected an Arab League proposal to end the country's unrest, saying that the call for President Bashar al-Assad to leave office after a unity government is formed amounted to "blatant interference" in national affairs.

    The Arab League on Sunday called on al-Assad to step down and hand over power to his vice-president under the terms of a transition plan similar to one which paved the way for the departure of Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh from power.

    The Syrian regime have been blaming the uprising against al-Assad, which began in March, on terrorists and armed gangs financed by foreign countries.

    More than 5400 people have been killed, according to UN estimates.

    Syrian troops storm restive Hama province
     
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  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Not so quick.

    The BBC analyst did not sound very optimistic.

    The UN is formulating a draft resolution that will surely be vetoed by Russia and China!
     
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    If India is a permanent UNSC member, how do you think will it vote in this draft resolution?
     
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    Anyways a sort of civil war is brewing between Alwais and Sunnis. And Alwais though in power, are heavily outnumbered.
     
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    India has already said that it wants Assad to give in to the demands of pro-democracy groups and wants a smooth transfer of power.

    Let me see if I can get my Alawi friend here, or atleast his comments on the whole issue.
     
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    Singh,

    It will be interesting what your Alawyi friend has to say.

    Of course, that will be the pro Assad, but even so!

    Also get his opinion on Iran and if Iran will be assisting.
     
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    These Sunnis are such a pain in the a**..
     
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    There isn't going to be a UN resolution. Assad is going to fall at the hands of the Free Syrian Army being funded by GCC and trained by France. They have already kicked Syrian forces out of Zabadani and Douma, right next to Damascus. It is falling apart.
     
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    Are there French SFs on the ground?
     
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    I came across another post calling Syria the last remaining beacon of secularism in an increasingly Islamist-oriented Arab world


    Syria in fact is the most "progressive" in this regard
     
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    Assad lost another Damascus suburb = Saqba.
     
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    What's to become of Hezbollah if Assad is gone? This is one of the more interesting question of the Syrian crisis...
     
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    France also fiddling with Syria is quite mind boggling... What will F gain out of that troubled water, to clip the wings of Russia as a paw? or simply another bad joke like GCC monarchs screaming a mantra for intervention for the sake of 'freedom' and 'democracy'???

    In case of Assad/Alawi regime being replaced by a Sunni dominated one Syria could become even more hostile towards Israel. Hazbollah + Syria + Iran the triangle is the last leverage probably for Russia in ME, thus Russia won't back off. Assad may have to go in the end but a pro-Russia Syria shall be Russia's bottom line. And unlike dubious India, China should as usual stand firm on pursuing a solution within Arab League.

    It's belly good for the US +allies to get hands tied and exhausted in Syria and Iran, though unlikely yet for both Obama and Sako would run for their next term
     
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    'Executed' corpses dumped in restive Syrian city

    'Executed' corpses dumped in restive Syrian city



    The bodies of 17 men previously held by Syrian security forces have been found in the city of Hama, activists said on Saturday, victims of a deadly struggle between President Bashar al-Assad and those determined to topple him.

    Turkey was due to meet Gulf Arab states later in the day to reinforce support for an Arab call for Assad to quit.

    The Arab League and Western countries are pushing for a UN Security Council resolution on Syria, resisted by Assad's ally Russia.

    Elsewhere in Syria, security forces firing mortars at the northeastern town of Quwaira killed an infant, activists said.

    An oil pipeline was also set ablaze in the town at dawn, although it was not immediately clear if this was the work of saboteurs or the result of firing by security forces.

    The pipeline supplies crude oil to the Banias refinery. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said troops were battling rebels in the central town of Rastan and that security forces had killed a man in the southern province of Deraa and another at a checkpoint in Harasta, near Damascus.

    Activists also reporting fighting between armoured forces and rebels at the edges of the Damascus suburb of Irbin.

    The reported killings in Hama occurred during a military offensive this week that intensified a five-month-old crackdown on the conservative Sunni Muslim city, where Assad's father crushed an armed Islamist revolt in 1982 and killed thousands.

    "They were killed execution-style, mostly with one bullet to the head. Iron chains that had tied them were left on their legs as a message to the people to stop resisting," Abu al-Walid, an activist in the city, told Reuters by telephone.

    Another activist said the bodies, their hands tied with plastic wire and some with their legs chained, were dumped in the streets of five Hama neighbourhoods on Thursday evening.

    Turkey, hosting a meeting with Gulf Arab foreign ministers later in the day, urged Syria's leadership to comply with an Arab League transition plan that calls on Assad to step down.

    "We are siding with the Syrian people and their legitimate demands," Turkish President Abdullah Gul was also quoted as saying by the United Arab Emirates newspaper al-Bayan.

    More Syrians flee conflict

    Turkish officials say the number of Syrians seeking sanctuary in Turkey has risen in the past six weeks, with 50 to 60 arriving daily, taking the total living in refugee camps to nearly 9,600 from about 7,000 previously.

    More than 6,000 Syrian refugees have fled to Lebanon. Turkey, which spent years rebuilding relations with Syria, turned against Assad after he ignored its advice to enact reforms to calm what began in March as a peaceful uprising against his rule, inspired by Arab revolts elsewhere.

    Diplomatic pressure has failed so far to persuade Damascus to halt a violent crackdown on what the government says are armed terrorists implementing a foreign-inspired conspiracy. The United Nations, which estimated in mid-December that more than 5,000 people had been killed, says it can no longer keep track of the death toll. The government says insurgents have killed more than 2,000 soldiers and policemen.

    The UN Security Council discussed a new European-Arab draft resolution on Friday aimed at halting the bloodshed. Russia, which joined China in vetoing a previous Western draft resolution in October and which has since promoted its own draft, said the European-Arab version was unacceptable in its present form but added that it was willing to "engage" on it.

    Russian UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin criticised the draft, which endorses the Arab transition plan. Moscow, he said, wants a Syrian-led political process, not "an Arab League-imposed outcome of a political process that has not yet taken place" or Libyan-style "regime change".

    Britain and France said they hope to put the draft to a vote next week after Arab League Secretary General Nabil Elaraby and the Qatari prime minister brief the council on Syria on Tuesday.

    The draft, obtained by Reuters, calls for a "political transition" in Syria. While not calling for UN sanctions against Damascus, it says the council could "adopt further measures" if Syria does not comply with the resolution. Russia and Iran are among Syria's few remaining allies.

    With Prime Minister Vladimir Putin facing the biggest protests of his 12-year rule and planning to return to the Kremlin in a March presidential vote, Russia wants to avoid approval of any regime change engineered from outside.

    Moscow has been busy drawing "red lines" as it comes under pressure to stop shielding its old ally Assad and push him to halt the bloodshed in Syria.

    'Executed' corpses dumped in restive Syrian city - World - DNA
     
  19. The Messiah

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    I see these activists are ignoring atrocities done by the rebels.

    The rebels are busy beheading the "other side" but they are somehow fighting for freedom and democracy :rofl:
     
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    Since Russia is blocking in the UN, we have to go around them. When France gets involved it isn't a joke. It means the end of your regime. What to gain? Freedom for Syrian people, domination of Lebanon and maybe some contracts. We haven't arranged the deals like we did early on with NTC giving us 2/3rds of Libyan oil contracts. We have to rebuild the colonial empire.

    You forget that getting rid of Assad means end of Hezbollah. Sunnis hate Shia Hezzies. Iran will lose its most important ally and its proxy force in the same move, thereby reducing its regional influence to minnow. A Sunni state may be more hostile towards Israel, but it is worth getting rid of the terrorist wing arrayed against it and have state responsibility. Iran will be out from inflaming the situation which is all good for Israel.

    As usual China will sit on the sidelines as their foreign interests are stripped away by France.

    A couple training camps aren't going to stretch out French forces in anyway. Qatar and Saudis are funding the operation so we aren't even out of pocket. Sarko is headed out the door, but Hollande has an almost identical foreign policy.
     
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    Assad regime is losing control...

     
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