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they must be eyeing on some old chinese launch system .
If they were really eyeing to paint a Chinese rocket, they must not have made such statement. This has just clarified, there'll be no Pakistani LV even in 2040. When, launch capacity, when manned/extraterrestrial missions and anything.:facepalm:

Putting aside all trolling, I honestly wanted to see any paki LV. At least morons who claim that Shaheen is more powerful than GSLV Mk3 can know about actual of capacity of vehicles.:doh:
Agni 5 missile with a range of 5000-8500 km can put 50-60 kgs in LEO at best.
THen paint the rocket green ,give it islamic name and flag and shout MADE IN PAK in indian forums..:bplease:
They are most ignorant creatures on planet.
Blaming Indian Media's irresponsible journalism always? At least Indian Media only hypes and doesn't distort the facts unlike paki experts who declare that they have already a 1000kms deep military base if India has 1kms deep (deepest place on earth is 11.022 kms and even common civilians [at least Indians] know that). I'm wondering if their base could have survive magma. Plenty of such cases with pakis.:dude:
On going paki forums, I thought pakis can't differentiate between a fixed wing aircraft and a winged rocket (a reusable space shuttle), later, I watched their media and realized that they can't even differentiate in real and diwali rockets.
1. 1:40 - pakistan science main aage hey
2. 2:07 - proud day for pakistan
3. 2:33 - dono takade apna mujayara kar rahi hey
4. 3:01 - pakistan ne bhi dikha diya wo bhi kisise kam nahi 60 k.m. range waala missile chala ke...

Can suparco even have 1% of ISRO?
Last time, I checked, this was their latest LV.
[I'm not joking. They organize it annually].
http://www.suparco.gov.pk/downloadables/water-rocket-instructions.pdf
 

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Dr Abdus Salam and all the wrong choices Pakistan made


Today is the 90th birthday of Dr Abdus Salam. The best way to wish him is to let freedom of religion and intellectual thought prevail in the country. PHOTO: YOUTUBE SCREENSHOT
29 Jan 2016
What does it take to be a genius?

The other day this thought struck me. Is it the environment that nurtures the genius or does nature simply endow certain individuals with a special gene? Maybe both propositions have merits of their own, but for the time being, let’s drop the latter. Let’s suppose there are no chosen ones, there are no saviours.

The idea of saviours arises when we start to believe in pseudo-science and seek miracles to solve our problems. But mind it, Aladdin’s lamp or magic wands don’t exist in the practical world. The only magic that works is the labour of hands at the end of one’s own arms and the thinking brain in one’s own head.

The third-world countries need the same magic for their socio-economic development; self-reliance, hard work and stimulating intellectual environment. Mix these ingredients and a successful society will develop. Pakistan, I regret, still misses these elements, and hence, is still far from being developed.

Today, at the 90th birthday of the first noble laureate of Pakistan, Dr Abdus Salam, it would be wise to take a look at his life and to introspect what wrong choices we made.

Salam was a genius for the world, nonetheless a discarded one in his own country. Born in a village near Jhang on January 29, 1926, he studied in an ordinary Urdu medium school that lacked furniture. He belonged to a lower-middle class family. His house had no electricity, or any other basic facilities. His circumstances were challenging, yet they never served as an excuse.

The fact that he scored the highest marks ever recorded for the matriculation examination at the age of 14 and published his first research paper at the age of 17 indicated his gifted potential. But who, at that time, could have imagined that this young prodigy would have received the most prestigious Nobel Prize in Physics for his contribution to the unification theory.

Dr Abdus Salam recieves the Nobel Prize for Physics from King Carl XVI Gustav of Sweden on December 10, 1979. Photo: ahmadiyyapost.blogspot.com
The list of awards and honours which he received and his contribution to Pakistan need a separate volume. Some of his services, for instance, include working as the science advisor for President Ayub Khan to lay the infrastructure of science in Pakistan. He persuaded him to acquire Karachi Nuclear Power Plant (KANUPP) – the first commercial nuclear reactor of Pakistan. He served as a founding director of Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO), worked for the establishment of Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) and The Pakistan Institute of Nuclear Science and Technology (PINSTECH). Not to mention that he mentored the scientist who designed the atomic bomb for Pakistan.

Not only was his unification theory a touchstone of modern physics, he also laid the pioneering work for the discovery of Higgs boson (referred to as the God-particle) in 2012 which happens to be the most important discovery in Physics in the last four decades. This discovery took place at the Large Hadron Collider established at CERN, a European organisation for nuclear research.

Last year on July 31st, Pakistan became the first non-European country to become an associate member of CERN. In his recent visit to CERN, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif hailed the contribution of Pakistani scientists, and also paid tribute to Salam calling him the pride of the country.

This statement, however, couldn’t wash out the stain of guilt that the subsequent governments of Pakistan and the entire nation still carry. While the entire world applauded him, Salam was never regarded as a hero in his own country. He’s considered the opposite – a traitor.

What we did to Salam is shameful to say the least. When he returned to Pakistan after receiving the Nobel Prize, no one received him at the airport. Right wing propaganda concocted conspiracy theories to accuse him of nuclear espionage. When he was invited to Quaid-e-Azam University for his lecture, he was threatened by the fundamentalist students. Ziaul Haq refused to endorse the candidature of Salam as a Director General of UNESCO even though Salam visited nearly 30 countries in 1987 and gained their support. In 1988, the then Prime Minister, Benazir Bhutto, refused to meet him after making him wait for two days in a hotel. Similarly, Nawaz Sharif, in his first term of premiership, conveniently ignored Salam while mentioning the distinguished alumni of Government College, Lahore while addressing its convocation. Had Salam given up his Pakistani nationality, he would have easily avoided such humiliations, but he remained a Pakistani national until his last breath.

Salam’s biggest failure was not some personal tragedy – a person of his stature with generosity of spirit could forgive personal sufferings. His agony was due to a far bigger tragedy. Salam dreamt of establishing an international research centre in Pakistan for third-world physicists. He wanted to stop the brain-drain, but no government showed interest. He ended up setting up the International Centre for Theoretical Physics in Trieste, Italy that was later renamed the Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics.

All of this took a toll on him, and in last years of his life, he became the victim of a neurological disorder and was confined to a wheelchair. He died in Oxford, England on November 21, 1996. He was buried in Pakistan on his request. No government official attended his funeral. His misery didn’t end with his death. The epitaph of his tombstone was defaced as a final disgrace to remove the word ‘Muslim’from it.

Defaced tombstone on Dr Abdus Salam’s grave. Photo: Aziz Bilal

If we look back in history, the Mongols invaded Baghdad and demolished Baitul Hikmah, a centre of excellence during the Islamic Golden Age. Ibn-e-Rushd was exiled and his books were burnt. When Europe found the light to get out of the Dark Ages, the Muslim world lost its way. And now the country where Salam was banned from delivering his lectures in universities is witnessing terrorism in those very educational institutes.

I again seek your attention towards the dilemma that I mentioned in the start: What does it take to be a genius in any society?

There are no chosen ones, there are no saviours.

For socio-economic development, self-reliance, hard work and a stimulating intellectual environment is required. Where there is no such environment, there are no scholars, there are no intellectuals and there are no heroes. Even if someone, like Salam, somehow manages to prove his talent, he would not be treated as a hero. He would be shunned.

Today is the 90th birthday of Dr Abdus Salam. The best way to wish him is to let freedom of religion and intellectual thought prevail in the country.
He was dumped because he was not sunni. He was a great fan of Raja ramanna.
 

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If they were really eyeing to paint a Chinese rocket, they must not have made such statement. This has just clarified, there'll be no Pakistani LV even in 2040. When, launch capacity, when manned/extraterrestrial missions and anything.:facepalm:

Putting aside all trolling, I honestly wanted to see any paki LV. At least morons who claim that Shaheen is more powerful than GSLV Mk3 can know about actual of capacity of vehicles.:doh:
Agni 5 missile with a range of 5000-8500 km can put 50-60 kgs in LEO at best.

They are most ignorant creatures on planet.
Blaming Indian Media's irresponsible journalism always? At least Indian Media only hypes and doesn't distort the facts unlike paki experts who declare that they have already a 1000kms deep military base if India has 1kms deep (deepest place on earth is 11.022 kms and even common civilians [at least Indians] know that). I'm wondering if their base could have survive magma. Plenty of such cases with pakis.:dude:
On going paki forums, I thought pakis can't differentiate between a fixed wing aircraft and a winged rocket (a reusable space shuttle), later, I watched their media and realized that they can't even differentiate in real and diwali rockets.
1. 1:40 - pakistan science main aage hey
2. 2:07 - proud day for pakistan
3. 2:33 - dono takade apna mujayara kar rahi hey
4. 3:01 - pakistan ne bhi dikha diya wo bhi kisise kam nahi 60 k.m. range waala missile chala ke...

Can suparco even have 1% of ISRO?
Last time, I checked, this was their latest LV.
[I'm not joking. They organize it annually].
http://www.suparco.gov.pk/downloadables/water-rocket-instructions.pdf
they should start some YOUTUBE amateur astronomy channel .. probably they might earn more than their allocated budget ..kids and space enthusiast love such water canon/water rocket/coke-mint rocket type videos a lot..LOL.

i am quoting another point from the same wiki link u provided..
There are no plans for development of a Launch vehicle, and the programme is entirely intended to launch more communication and remote sensing satellites from other countries.[
goal is prettty much clear .. make 11 satellites in 23 years and book launches from CNSA..

if they take 23 years to manufature 11 satellites.Imagine how much time they will take to build a space rocket(3000 AD??)-by that time pakistan will certainly wont exist on map:rofl:

i think they acted mature and understood their limits and capability..I hope citizens of pakistan will also understand this and wont equate missiles with space rocket in future..I have watched that video.. i feel sorry for them , its not their problem its the problem of their media who chooses to keep them in dark..
 

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No point in having a thread with a news every 1000 years. I guess by the time they will have a launch vehicle, we will be sending satellite via space elevators directly to Geo Stationary Orbit.
 

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No point in having a thread with a news every 1000 years. I guess by the time they will have a launch vehicle, we will be sending satellite via space elevators directly to Geo Stationary Orbit.
no its a very important thread , if it wernt here i probably would have never known pakistan has a space program..
 

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Actually most of the things that Pakistan does, happens to be out of jealousy to the Indian achievement, even if that achievement remains irrelevant to Paki situation, they must do something about it just because India did it. Because of that, Pakistan is often subjected to humiliation.
 

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Either dead or completely on hold program, I would still like to get some abstract of it.

If somebody has info about Pakistani launch vehicle & ICBMs programs, what we don't know and why it was scrapped, kindly share (no trolling please).
@Akask kumar @republic_roi97
Taimur SLV

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Pakistan began developed its first SLV in 1998. On March 2001, Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan announced that Pakistani scientists were in the process of building the country's first Satellite Launch Vehicle (SLV) and that the project had been assigned to SUPARCO.
Dr. Abdul Majid, then-chairman of SUPARCO, confirmed Dr. Khan's statement and said " Pakistan envision a low-cost SLV and Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) in order to launch light-weight satellite into low-earth orbits. Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan also added that" Pakistan has very robust IRBMs which can launch geostationary orbiting satellites.
During the IDEAS 2002 defense exhibition Pakdef spotted two similar models of Pakistani Satellite Launch Vehicles.
The first model points out a possible three stage of Satellite Launch Vehicle (SLV). Judging from other similar SLV's, it is estimated that it can place a payload weighing around 80-100 kilogram to an orbit 450-490 kilometers above Earth's surface. However the exact data remains unknown.
The second model of the SLV seems similar to the first model however, with four extra boosters ( ? Abdali).
Pakistan successfully test-fired in four times a Shaheen-2 surface-to-surface ballistic missile. It has a range of 2,700 kilometres. It were the first test flights of the two stage solid-fuel Shaheen-2. The Shaheen-2 is the longest-range missile tested by Pakistan so far. Shaheen-2is not an advanced version of Shaheen-1, which has a range of 700 kilometres.
It is reported that the Shaheen 1 and 2 missiles have been developed by the Pakistan National Defence Complex (PNDC) with assistance from SUPARCO, the Pakistan space research organisation, and from the Atomic Energy Commission.
The Shaheen-1 (Hatf-4) is probably a copy of China's M-9 export-missile. The Shaheen-2 (Haft-6) is probably a copy of China's two-stage export-missile M-18.
The Shaheen-2 uses like the M-18, two aerospace solid rocket motors developed by China Hexi Chemical & Mechanical Company. A relevant motor for the first stage is the L-SpaB-140B with diameter of 1.40 m.
The future Space launch vehicle Taimur (three stage solid-fuel, diam. 1.40 m, length ~25 m) can transport a little scientific payload in a Low Earth Orbit. For the Taimur SLV is doubled the first stage of the Shaheen-2.

Models of Pakistani space launchers
Meanwhile, a new Shaheen-3 successfully tested in 2015. It is an improved Shaheen-2 with a 1.5 m stretched first stage. Thus also an increased performance of a satellite-launcher would be possible.
 

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Either dead or completely on hold program, I would still like to get some abstract of it.

If somebody has info about Pakistani launch vehicle & ICBMs programs, what we don't know and why it was scrapped, kindly share (no trolling please).
@Akask kumar @republic_roi97
Taimur SLV

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Models of Pakistani space launchers
A multi stage rocket doesn't mean it is equivalent to an SLV. Any SLV does have a greater TWR then any conventional missile, be it SRBM or ICBM. India can't compare Agni-V with PSLV. The missiles are more like multi staged sounding rockets.
 

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