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MILAP sounds more like a peace summit between India and Pakistan :)
since this is carbine, it should have been properly named, since terrorists shall be at the receiving end of this carbine, it should have been named in such a manner so that it would create fear in heart and mind of terrorist.
 

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MILAP sounds more like a peace summit between India and Pakistan :)
since this is carbine, it should have been properly named, since terrorists shall be at the receiving end of this carbine, it should have been named in such a manner so that it would create fear in heart and mind of terrorist.
 

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MSMC is from DRDO. this is from OFB, OFB has its own R&D, we have seen Kalantak rifles from OFB, lets wait and see.
 

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MSMC is from DRDO. this is from OFB, OFB has its own R&D, we have seen Kalantak rifles from OFB, lets wait and see.
 

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MSMC is from DRDO. this is from OFB, OFB has its own R&D, we have seen Kalantak rifles from OFB, lets wait and see.

DRDO does not produce any rifles, OFB is DRDOs arms manufacturer. The report reads that DRDO and OFB will jointly offer the rifle to the Army!!
 

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MSMC is from DRDO. this is from OFB, OFB has its own R&D, we have seen Kalantak rifles from OFB, lets wait and see.

DRDO does not produce any rifles, OFB is DRDOs arms manufacturer. The report reads that DRDO and OFB will jointly offer the rifle to the Army!!
 

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ARDE develops final version of modern carbine - The Times of India



PUNE: The Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) has developed the final version of the modern sub-machine carbine (MSMC). The carbine will be useful in battlefield as well as urban warfare.

Anil M Datar, director, ARDE, said, "The gun was developed in association with ordnance factories." Datar was speaking to TOI on the sidelines of a seminar on 'Simulation technologies', held at the Mahratta Chamber of Commerce Industries and Agriculture on Friday.

Datar said the armed forces will be given the gun for trials, which will be carried out in various terrains, including high-altitude areas. Hoping that the trials will be successful, Datar said, "I cannot give the exact date of its induction. Normally, around seven to eight months are required to carry out such tests".

This MSMC is a lightweight, compact, automatic gun. It has a small barrel and can be fired from the hip or shoulder-mounted. The gun will be helpful in close encounters and can be used by the Indian Army, paramilitary forces and commandos.

Established in 1958, the ARDE comes under the Defence Research and Development Organisation ( DRDO). Its work includes designing and developing conventional armaments, basic and applied research, modelling, simulation and software development in the field of conventional armament and transfer of technology related works.

The organisation has been instrumental in contributing for various important defence programmes such as Indian Small Arms System, Arjun MBT battle tank gun, Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launcher and ejection seat for the light combat aircraft, Tejas.

Speaking at the seminar earlier, Datar said, industries should come forward to join hands with the ARDE in the field of simulation. The defence committee of the MCCIA had organised the seminar in partnership with NASSCOM. Anant Sardeshmukh, executive director general, MCCIA, and Brigadier (retd) S B Ghorpade, chairman, defence committee, MCCIA, shared the dais.

"The ARDE has a lot of facilities, but the manpower is less. If industries come forward, carrying out joint programmes for improvement of the defence sector will be possible. Simulation systems are needed for cost reduction and better efficiency. Successful modelling and simulation is the backbone of any technology and we should promote it jointly," Datar said.
 

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hope it passes the test, it is real light weight, i even hold it, old model, you can use it with one hand.
 

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well develop the best and then show case it to forces, if they like it then bingo else re-work. develop multiple MSMC simultaneously instead of bringing on many designs and then getting one design final for going ahead. this increase the risk of complete failure. we can now with so much money can afford to develop multiple msmc.
 

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I don't see any of our forces using MSMC so is there any plans to induct them?

- Is that Indian MSMC used in Black ops 2?
 
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Re: When MSMC (Modern Sub Machine Carbine) will be inducted ?

I don't see any of our forces using MSMC so is there any plans to induct them?

- Is that Indian MSMC used in Black ops 2?
Yes the one SMG called as MSMC in BO 2 is modelled after real life indian proto gun....

Sadly the DRDO hasn't yet recieved any orders......

The Guns which MSMC was designated to replace were replaced by M-4s, XM-95 mini Tavors, Beretta MX-4 storms and Steyr TMP smgs respectively......

quite possibly Indian M-4s which were bought by India under US-INDO FMS route could/would be converted into Gilboa 5.56mm Assault Pistol version using its conversion kit....
 

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Re: When MSMC (Modern Sub Machine Carbine) will be inducted ?

Yes the one SMG called as MSMC in BO 2 is modelled after real life indian proto gun....

Sadly the DRDO hasn't yet recieved any orders......

The Guns which MSMC was designated to replace were replaced by M-4s, XM-95 mini Tavors, Beretta MX-4 storms and Steyr TMP smgs respectively......

quite possibly Indian M-4s which were bought by India under US-INDO FMS route could/would be converted into Gilboa 5.56mm Assault Pistol version using its conversion kit....
So no MSMC will be inducted?
sad to hear that, i badly wana see them on our armed forces. Ironically MSMC is most favorite SMG for black ops players :p
 

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Re: When MSMC (Modern Sub Machine Carbine) will be inducted into India

first DRDO is strictly research organisation and it does not sell. OFB makes small arms, hope Ambani defece get the licence to sell it and then it will sell like hot cakes.
 

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Re: When MSMC (Modern Sub Machine Carbine) will be inducted into India

first DRDO is strictly research organisation and it does not sell. OFB makes small arms, hope Ambani defece get the licence to sell it and then it will sell like hot cakes.
Sorry to everybody yes My Bad it was OFB did't recieve any orders.......

And also to @Anandsuren bro Real world is not Video game Buddy..... There is much of Political n other factors responsible such as foreign lobbying involved India's defence procurement process.........
 
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I don't see any of our forces using MSMC so is there any plans to induct them?

- Is that Indian MSMC used in Black ops 2?
the first prototype of msmc is in bo2 later on the stock and a few things were changed
 

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"We are replacing the conventional carbines with lightweight single hand firing capability MSMC, which has new ammunition. All technical trials are successfully over. The carbine has now been handed over to the Army for field trials for one year," Director of ARDE Anil Datar told Sakal Times.
Sakal Times - ARDE develops modern sub-machine carbine for Army



MSMC with it's rounds, bayonet, silencer
 

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