Stop treating army men like 'beggars', SC to govt

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  1. NSG_Blackcats

    NSG_Blackcats Member of The Month OCTOBER 2009 Senior Member

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    Stop treating army men like 'beggars', SC to govt​


    NEW DELHI: The Supreme Court has slammed the union government for treating army personnel like "beggars" in respect of emoluments and pension and asked the authorities to adopt a more "humane approach" towards those bravely defending the country's borders.

    "If a person goes to any part of Delhi and sits for begging, he will earn Rs 1000 every day and you are offering a pittance of Rs 1000 per month for a man who fought for the country in the high altitudes and whose arm was amputated?

    "Is this the way you treat those brave army officers? It is unfortunate that you are treating them like beggars," a bench of Justices Markandeya Katju and A K Patnaik said in verbal comments while passing the order.

    The apex court passed the order dismissing the Centre's appeal challenging a Punjab and Haryana High Court direction to pay higher pension to C S Siddu, a Short Commissioned Officer whose right arm had to be amputated due to an accident while on duty at the high altitudes on November November 21, 1970.

    "The army personnel are bravely defending the country even at the cost of their lives and we feel they should be treated in a better and more humane manner by government authorities, particularly, in respect of their emoluments, pension and other benefits," the bench said in an order.

    There was an element of drama in the court when Additional Solicitor General Parag Tripathi pleaded with the court not to use "strong words" in the order like "beggars," "niggardly" "miserly", following which the bench dropped them from the written order.

    "We regret to say that the army officers and army men in our country are being treated in a shabby manner by the government. In this case, the respondent,(Sidhu) who was posted at a high altitude field area and met with an accident during discharge of his duties was granted a meagre pension. This is a pittance (about Rs 1000) per month plus D.A.

    "If this is the manner in which the army personnel are treated, it can only be said that it is extremely unfortunate," the bench however, noted in its written order.

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  3. gogbot

    gogbot Regular Member

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    Did not know that the Pension was so small.
    I though the army just won major pay increase and retirement benefits.

    we should raise the pension. to at least RS.10,000
     
  4. Indianrabbit

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    My blood boils when I read news like this, the person responsible should be given 100 lashesh. We do not respect our soilders infact we treat them like waste shame on us. I do not want to lose my civil behavior but cannot help these mfukers should be treated.
     
  5. Solid Beast

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    The same problem is across the border, I know and understand the anger and frustration. However the SC along with multiple governments have had countless years to address this, this is not the current government's fault. Though if this is how the issue will get attention, then so be it. All men and women who risk their lives for their nation and escape the clutches of death should be entitled to the same benefits as any minister or politician.
     
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    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

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    The government think that they are all above. They delyaing many vital defense projects and but fast-tracked the 12VVIP choppers.

    Please give these men due respect after all they are guarding our nation and its pride.
     
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  7. Indianrabbit

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    100% they should be given VIP treatment.
     
  8. Dark_Prince

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    The problem is not the Dumb politician, But the monstrous/selfish/shameless- Babu (bureaucrat) in the govt. machinery!!
     
  9. johnee

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    That is seen as Pakistani model by our babus...

    The state of affairs of our army is not an accident but delibrate. I think it has to do with Pakistan. Pakistan and India became independent around the same time, each has tried to the opposite of what the other has done. And in varying degrees both have made a same mistake of assuming that the model used by the 'other' is flawed.

    Pakistan gave greater importance to its majority muslim population factor, India in contrast kept that factor diluted. Around the time Pakistan became more theocratic, India became more secular in constitution.
    Pakistan's military has taken a lot of power into their hands, in contrast the babus feared similar thing in India and delibrately try to keep army a peg lower than bearucracy and politics.

    One may say that Pakistan and India are two different countries, so why fear? The shared past and the only recent partition(60yrs is very short time for a nation) gives rise to such behaviour. One must remember that the reigns of power have so far still been in the hands of the generation that has seen or experienced the fallouts of partition closely. For that generation, India and Pakistan are not two different countries.

    India has done relatvely better than Pakistan, but this has lead to the belief that models being pursued are the correct ones(since they worked). Similarly, if Pakistan had been doing better then they would also have a similar belief. Both these beliefs are flawed. And both countries suffer due to such policies in varying degrees. Pakistan does not want to adopt any secular ethos for the fear of becoming India where the majority identity is not given much mileage. Similarly, India does not want to give much mileage to the majority identity and tries to discriminate positively towards minority. All in the fear that any rise in majority will lead to a 'Hindu pakistanisation' of India.

    The same is the case with the condition of army. The army takes over all the avenues and institutions in Pakistan, because they do want to give the power to the bereucracy and politicians be treated like 'beggars'. This fear stems from their perception of Indian model. Similarly, the indian babus and netas are not comfortable giving an equal peg to the military lest they use this to take over power, like it happened in Pakistan.

    The only solution would be when the newer generations(in India especially) takes the reigns of power into their hands. The newer generation sees India as completely different from Pakistan and therefore will not be bogged down by the fears of doing a pakistan's mistake in India.
     
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  10. Phenom

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    Just a Rs 1,000 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and what's worse, after the high court judgement the government actually appealed against it in the supreme court, do they really believe a 1000 is enough for a person who lost his limb serving the country?

    What's even worse is the media which is busy doing its own trivial things, either something about IPL or Shoaib Malik.
     
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  11. Sabir

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    ...........And they went so far challenging the verdict of the High Court..........I spit on those Babus as well as those Black-coats who fought the case instead advicing govt. what is right thing to do........
     

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