Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum slowed

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  1. Ray

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    Has the Modi momentum stalled or slowed?

    Neerja thinks it has slowed.

    That is an opinion

    However, the contention that the J&K has split on religious line is stating the obvious. I wonder if anyone has any doubt that Jammu and the Kashmir Valley are not divided on religious line. Therefore, the alarmist sensationalism is mere hokum, if not downright mischievous and cunning.

    Likewise stating that the BJP has divided Jharkhand into 'tribal' and 'non tribal' lines.

    Further, what is wrong with having a Hindu CM in J&K or a 'non tribal' as a CM in Jharkhand? Is Nerja Chaudry and her ilk suggesting that J&K is a Muslim satrap State and Jharkand is the sole preserve of tribal? Are the others not citizens of the State or citizens of the much overused cliché 'secular' India, which is her staple war cry?

    it shows that if anyone is polarising India and segmenting India, it is the journalists without any accountability like Nerja and the media friends.

    Poor Nerja has not visited real Kashmir to realise what is 'Kashmiriyat', which is the RishiSufism, a socio-cultural religious space where several Hindus and Muslims once practised their faiths, is one of the most prevalent expressions of Kashmiriyat, The Rishi-Sufis practice shaped the concept of immanence of God, respect for all religions, beliefs in miracles, reincarnation, meditation, and asceticism from Hinduism
    and the sprit of Eightfold Paths from Buddhism and incorporated these to the concept of transcendence of God and to the sprit of “Five Pillars” of Islam for launching the sycncretic socio-religious space for inter-religious interactions. The “ethno-cultural ymbiotic” consciousness, and Hindu-Buddhist inter-religious symbiotic spiritual consciousness, shaped the evolution of the “Kashmiriyat.

    It is this concept of 'Kashmiriyat' that has been left violated with the pan Islamic terrorist movement from across the LC and by the shameless Hurriyat.

    If Kashmiriyat has been reduced to a slogan, then it is obvious that the religious lines will get prominent.

    There is no doubt that the extreme right wing of the "parivar' has played a discordant note. But what is surprising that inspite of that the Opposition that combined were left picking up the crumbs.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    What I find appalling is the hatred these people peddle. Should secularism be only practiced by Hindus and not by other communities? How come it becomes consolidation when either Dalit or Muslim or Christian voters are specially targeted but becomes polarization when Hindu voters are targeted? Going by their logic, India should not have any leaders from other communities because their percentage is lower than that of Hindus.

    There must be some balance in what these people write. They have leaned so much to the other side that they lost their objectivity and no longer carry any credibility. They are just an unaccountable opposition with a big mike.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    I don't think the Modi magic has waned. They are still the strongest force around.

    But the magic will definitely wane if we don't see tangible development soon. The honeymoon period is drawing to a close, and by March, people will expect answers and action from the government.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    J&K election again proved that Muslims in Kashmir are not secular and will not vote for any Hindu party especially BJP, the huge turnout is to keep BJP out of Kashmir,

    BJP would have sweeped Jammu & ladakh if they had not softened their position on article 370 & common civil code, they would have easily won 35+ seats, its BJP's miscalculation that they tried to win muslims by showing development & employment as carrots. Its time BJP realizes & stop minority appeasement.

    Regarding Modi Magic, it is in tact for now and that is the reason they reached 28 in J&K & got majority in Jharkhand or else it would have been touch.

    Modi should start concentrating on building economy & strengthening defense( against both Internal & external threats) till they have sufficient numbers in RS, once they reach it along with developmental agenda they should work towards abolishing article 370( in phases) & slowly bring in Uniform civil code.

    at the moment Modi is the man for BJP.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    I was seeing and listening to various TV debates.

    The non BJP commentators and more so Pawan Verma, Kumar Ketkar and Former JVM(P) MP from Jamshedpur Ajoy Kumar, who joined the Congress and was appointed a Spokesman, were claiming the Modi magic is on the wane because the percentage of votes in the General Election was much higher than what they got for the Assembly election.

    While that would be logical statistically, but then the local issues and local personalities also comes into play.

    It is not Modi who is being voted in which the reality of the General Elections.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    Sir,

    if you closely watch, BJP do not have many leaders at the state level. It is all Modi magic which is winning seats for BJP not because of any local leader charisma.

    If Modi had not campaigned in state elections BJP would have definitely struggled. as i said it is Modi Magic & Amit shah organisational skills that is winning seats for BJP.

    Bjp should start building leaders in all states, you know honeymoon period will not last long.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    State elections are extremely different compared to the General Election. Local factors play a greater role and local politicians have an upper-edge. Jharkhand has always voted differently in state (hung assembly) and central elections (vote for BJP).

    In J&K high voting percentage in the valley was a result of the BJP bogey. It once again proves that religious and not political issues are the root cause of the Kashmir conflict.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    That article is more wishful thinking than substance. The fact that Modi can win matches that he is not even playing in speaks volumes in itself. Besides, to compare vote percentage in LS elections with state ones is childish level of journalism and to draw inferences from that is plainly idiotic or perhaps desperate.

    As news suggest if BJP ends up forming a government in J&K with a Hindu as CM, it would be momentous. Ironically, it would be with the support of either NC or PDP whose leaders cried how could a Hindu become a CM of a Muslim dominated state?

    I was personally against softening the stance or the centrality of 370 and Kashmiri Pandits, however if it ends up producing results, who am I to cry about it? Anyway, 370 is never going to go away the state route, the only way is to remove the damn thing from the constitution. KP will return, being in power in the state will only smoothen out the process.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    BJP is bulldozing it's way and getting stronger. :lol:

    TOI has perhaps taken something to create such a STUPID and BIAS opinion.Ostritch has his head in sand.Such opinions makes sure TOI is termed as TOIlet often.

    Prior May16 the poor MMS was forced to claim by his Sickular party that there is no "MODI Magic" BUT ended up biting dust in Election in worst performance. :lol:
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    Actually, I don't agree with the word Hindu polarization in Jammu. Among Jammuites there is a sense of being neglected in Jammu and Kashmir as most of the time people don't care what's going in Jammu and Ladakh and solely bother about Kashmir valley and Kashmiris, that's why there was a BJP sweep in entire Jammu region to make their voice stronger. Talk anyone from Jammu region, they will tell you.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    Jholawalas are going out of business. They will post such articles. Nobody would have thought BJP would become a kingmaker, and create an unbeatable Hindu votebank in J&K, 10 years ago. With Jharkhand, reaching the halfway mark without taking support from any major local player itself is commendable. Modi hasn't lost a single BJP state election so far (except that one northeastern state).

    Let BJP win Delhi, and then these morons will have nothing to do but commit ritual suicide by shoving a pointy pen up their behinds.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    Vote share of BJP in Gujarat was also low compared to LS elections.
     
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    Re: Stalled in Kashmir, lower score in Jharkhand, the Modi momentum sl

    In J&K results, BJP is the only party celebrating, while rest are disappointed at not getting desired numbers.

    Real test for Modi momentum will be UP elections.
     
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