Split between Ukraine and the European Union ?

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  1. Akim

    Akim Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    Pardon, translated from Italian, someone can will remedy.

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    EU and it's harangue.

    Read more: Democratic deficit in the European Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Swedish bugger, Carl Bildt, should shut the front door already!
     
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    Ukraine must have already had a Look-East strategy, to embrace Eurasia.

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    You know what I like in our turn East. There we are not taught how we must live! There we do not learn how to live! I am a supporter of European values, but from childhood I hate when people tell me "I keep a shovel wrong" But to me so more comfortable. Let my opinion be subjective,, but we were quick made haste enter to WTO - some sectors of our economy collapsed. To the cruel people must be hard measures. In China, found the milk melamine- guilty sentenced to shooting. And in Norway, Anders Breivik killed 77 people, and he was put in VIP-prison.
    When Tymoshenko our economy in 2008, collapsed on 19% ( it is indexes of war-time), and power, in opinion of Europe, should scold her and let go..
     
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    This must be music to Russia's ears!
     
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    That sounds so India :dude:
    Anyway good luck with your policy change. You might actually learn a lot by coming out of shades for good.
    There's a saying that roughly goes like - "Nothing grows beneath a huge tree."
    As far as India is concerned, we belong to no "camps" as such. If Ukraine decide to go the same way, we can only help.

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    Virendra
     
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    Probably, but Europe is also guilty. Mythical freedoms for 1-2 persons and strategic error. (Ukraine aims farther from economic dependence on Russia). And Brussels is not yet late to abolish the decision.
     
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    EU is in a financial mess and there will be greater unpalatable financial diktats from the nations that have not gone down under as yet.

    It is therefore safer, in my opinion, for Ukraine to chart their own course than be tied down to regulations that may be good for the EU as a whole, but not good for the Nation.
     
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    India and China already can require the sizes and population, with them were considered in the whole world, and Ukraine stands on the decussation of the West and East (as Turkey) and it must to maneuver
     
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    He is the chap who messed up the Balkans.
     
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    Ukraine is in a quite good position IMO.

    Yuri Andreev - Eurasian Union and Russia's Geostrategic Stability - Strategic Culture Foundation - on-line journal > Eurasian Union and Russia's Geostrategic Stability > Strategic-Culture.org - Strategic Culture Foundation
     
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    How to save Euroland.
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    Ukraine actually, does not aim in EU and does not want in itself country Euro. That Ukraine will enter some time in EU it is a fairy-tale and all of it is known. Ukraine simply wants a just economic and legal relation to itself. Without quotas and limitation of rights. Olympiad 2012 showed, as Europe behaves to Ukraine (4 selected medals). The European standards can be created and without European Union. It knows to all, that prime price of Euro for us or will say in Poland - the different are accomplished. (for us on tighter sum, it is possible to purchase much more).
    And most importantly, that we should stop pointing and removed these double standards. That they push Ukraine away from Europe and turn East.
     
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    Ukraine agrees $3bn loan-for-corn deal - FT.com

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    Thank you, I did not know this information.
     

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