Solving China's #1 National Security Problem

[Krusty]

I predict the collapse of CCP if China tried to take over Magnolia.

I predict China reclaims Outer Mongolia in 2021.

There are compelling reasons that China will reclaim Outer Mongolia by 2021.

1. China needs a few years to build up its stealth fighter fleet. The Chengdu J-20 will enter mass production this year. A fleet of J-20s will be amassed in the next four years.

2. The year 2021 is near the end of Chinese President Xi Jinping's administration. He may want to leave a legacy of reclaiming Outer Mongolia.

3. US President-elect Donald Trump is about to throw the "One China" policy out the window. This means China's PLA is no longer restrained from reclaiming Outer Mongolia. The "One China" policy was the old deal by both countries to maintain the status quo, which is about to be abrogated.

oh wait, were you serious? in which case





China cant even step into 'its own territory' Taiwan to begin with.

 

[Martian]

China can easily reclaim Mongolia. It strengthens SCO.

There are two military blocs in the world. NATO is an official military alliance between North America and Europe.

The other military bloc is the unofficial SCO. Take a look at the map of SCO below. Outer Mongolia is the only country on the North Asian landmass that isn't part of SCO. NATO is thousands of miles away. There is no one to help Outer Mongolia.

 

[airtel]

China can easily reclaim Mongolia. It strengthens SCO.

There are two military blocs in the world. NATO is an official military alliance between North America and Europe.

The other military bloc is the unofficial SCO. Take a look at the map of SCO below. Outer Mongolia is the only country on the North Asian landmass that isn't part of SCO. NATO is thousands of miles away. There is no one to help Outer Mongolia.

there is no unity in SCO ............Russia will be the First country which will oppose annexation of Mangolia

Even India is a member of SCO ................that does not mean India , Russia or any other country will Fight for You .....................We will Fight against You .

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...sation-along-with-pakistan/article7407873.ece

 

[Martian]

there is no unity in SCO ............Russia will be the First country which will oppose annexation of Mangolia

Even India is a member of SCO ................that does not mean India , Russia or any other country will Fight for You .....................We will Fight against You .

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...sation-along-with-pakistan/article7407873.ece

India is a minor military power. No one cares about you guys. Can you build a turbofan engine? No.

India is not a founding member of SCO. If necessary, they'll just kick you out.

Back to my original premise. There is a giant hole in the heart of SCO. Outer Mongolia likes to hold military exercises with the US.

It is only a matter of time before China (on behalf of SCO) fixes the giant hole in the middle of SCO.
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NATO was built to protect Europe from the Soviet Union.

SCO was built to protect Asian countries from NATO. Outer Mongolia won't be independent for long. The logic of SCO won't permit it.

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

China can easily reclaim Mongolia. It strengthens SCO.

There are two military blocs in the world. NATO is an official military alliance between North America and Europe.

The other military bloc is the unofficial SCO. Take a look at the map of SCO below. Outer Mongolia is the only country on the North Asian landmass that isn't part of SCO. NATO is thousands of miles away. There is no one to help Outer Mongolia.

LOL.SCO a military alliance.You have no military alliance unless you count North Korea or Pakistan(Who sell themselves to the highest bidder).

You try annexing any country,there will be significant reactions from around the world and the first casualty will be your manufacturing industry and exports.

 

[Martian]

LOL.SCO a military alliance.You have no military alliance unless you count North Korea or Pakistan(Who sell themselves to the highest bidder).

You try annexing any country,there will be significant reactions from around the world and the first casualty will be your manufacturing industry and exports.

North Korea and Pakistan are small countries. They are irrelevant.

Look at the map of SCO. What's wrong with it? Mongolia lies at the heart of SCO and it is not part of SCO. That won't last indefinitely.

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

India is a minor military power. No one cares about you guys. Can you build a turbofan engine? No.

India is not a founding member of SCO. If necessary, they'll just kick you out.

Back to my original premise. There is a giant hole in the heart of SCO. Outer Mongolia likes to hold military exercises with the US.

It is only a matter of time before China (on behalf of SCO) fixes the giant hole in the middle of SCO.
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NATO was built to protect Europe from the Soviet Union.

SCO was built to protect Asian countries from NATO. Outer Mongolia won't be independent for long. The logic of SCO won't permit it.

Lolfer.Minor military power.Most significant economic powers of Asia Pacific are not Chinese allies,India Japan SoKo Australia Indonesia no one is a Chinese ally.

SCO being a counter to NATO and US allies.Seems Chinese have started smoking Paki weeds.

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

North Korea and Pakistan are small countries. They are irrelevant.

Look at the map of SCO. What's wrong with it? Mongolia lies at the heart of SCO and it is not part of SCO. That won't last indefinitely.

Why wont it last because Chinese think so?LoL.You dont decide anything and this SCO,well Russians will be the first to leave the Chinese.Russians dont play second fiddle to anyone.

 

[Martian]

Largest ever military drills with Russia, China & other SCO nations

Is SCO a military alliance? Decide for yourself. Watch the video. Do you see a lot of military hardware?

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

Largest ever military drills with Russia, China & other SCO nations

Is SCO a military alliance? Decide for yourself. Watch the video. Do you see a lot of military hardware?

This happens when you are fed selective information and free info is censored.Holding military drills dont make a military alliance.Countries hold military alliance regularly with each other.They dont become military allies.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Instead of being so stupid and arrogant, china could just concentrate on having good relations with other countries and have better trade relations. This will solve their food problem forever without any risks.

 

[Martian]

SCO passes the military alliance Duck Test

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a duck.

SCO is a military alliance, because it behaves like a military alliance. Allies hold mutual military exercises. SCO has been doing that for over ten years.

SCO flies their flags together and holds bi-annual military exercises. Who else does that? Oh, that's right, a military alliance. See those four jets far below the SCO flag? They don't fly jets at economic gatherings. If it's not an economic meeting and there are tons of military guys then it's a safe bet that it's a military alliance practicing together.

 

[IndianHawk]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a duck.

SCO is a military alliance, because it behaves like a military alliance. Allies hold mutual military exercises. SCO has been doing that for over ten years.

SCO flies their flags together and hold bi-annual military exercises. Who else does that? Oh, that's right, a military alliance.

India China hold military exercise too doesn't exactly make them allies.

 

[Martian]

India China hold military exercise too doesn't exactly make them allies.

China and India do not belong to a bilateral military organization. They also don't hold military exercises with 7,000 troops.

Putting a few squads together for a China-India get-together is not the same as a major military exercise.

 

[IndianHawk]

India is a minor military power

Which hold land claimed by china . Why the mighty Chinese are not recapturing that first:bounce:

 

[IndianHawk]

China and India do not belong to a bilateral military organization. They also don't hold military exercises with 7,000 troops.

Putting a few squads together for a China-India get-together is not the same as a major military exercise.

Doing military exercise means just that doing military exercise.
Unless you enter into a written official treaty there is no military alliance only a fantasy in your head.

 

[Martian]

I say SCO is a military alliance. The SCO Peace Mission 2014 below proves my point. It is a MAJOR mobilization. The SCO alliance countries are practicing joint military maneuvers.

Until NATO decides to poke a SCO country, we will not have definitive proof that SCO is a military alliance. However, the Peace Mission exercises are held to send a message to NATO.

"Published on Aug 28, 2016
China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan & Tajikistan Joint Military Exercise."

 

[warrior monk]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a duck.

SCO is a military alliance, because it behaves like a military alliance. Allies hold mutual military exercises. SCO has been doing that for over ten years.

SCO flies their flags together and hold bi-annual military exercises. Who else does that? Oh, that's right, a military alliance.

SCO is not a military alliance .
Does it have a chapter 5 like clause ??
Does it co ordinate in UN all members ??
Does it have military plans against any entity and do you train for achieving the said objective ?
Do you think India being a part of SCO confirms that that SCO is not a military alliance as India's foreign policy doesn't allow it , it will be treason ??
Does it have a military headquarters ??
Does it have a response force ??
Does it have a military budget ??

 

[Martian]

SCO is not a military alliance .
Does it have a chapter 5 like clause ??
Does it co ordinate in UN all members ??
Does it have military plans against any entity and do you train for achieving the said objective ?
Do you think India being a part of SCO confirms that that SCO is not a military alliance as India's foreign policy doesn't allow it , it will be treason ??
Does it have a military headquarters ??
Does it have a response force ??
Does it have a military budget ??

Did you read the original post where I said SCO is an UNOFFICIAL military alliance.

I never claimed SCO is an OFFICIAL military alliance.

SCO behaves like a military alliance without having currently legally enshrined a mutual defense obligation upon its member countries. However, is there really any doubt that China would come to the aid of a fellow SCO country if it was attacked without provocation?

The downside of an official military alliance like NATO is that it emboldened Turkey to unilaterally shoot down a Russian fighter and almost start a war.

 

[airtel]

India is a minor military power. No one cares about you guys.

China is a minor military power....................You can not Fight with USA , , India , Russia , japan , NATO & rest of the world .

Can you build a turbofan engine? .

Can you build a turbofan engine? . NO
go and buy Russian Engines .

India is not a founding member of SCO. If necessary, they'll just kick you out.

does not matter india will get permanent membership ............ if rest of the members vote against China they will kick You out .

Back to my original premise. There is a giant hole in the heart of SCO. Outer Mongolia likes to hold military exercises with the US.

It is only a matter of time before China (on behalf of SCO) fixes the giant hole in the middle of SCO.
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NATO was built to protect Europe from the Soviet Union.

SCO was built to protect Asian countries from NATO. Outer Mongolia won't be independent for long. The logic of SCO won't permit it.

Asians need protection from China .............

NATO is Fighting Talliban ....................they will fight China too ..................because all of them are American allies ........................nobody will fight along with chinis .


You will be alone ..........and rest of the world will bomb You to stone Age .