So whats up with Bo Xilai
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China's Bo Signals Wealth Gap Breached Unrest Trigger Point - Bloomberg
Outspoken and straight to the point
Outspoken and straight to the point
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Nice, so we do have a lot of support for Bo from the CCP online army too. So does this mean the CCP is also divided about Bo? Rather does this not mean that the CCP is divided about Bo? Cracks in the CCP for sure.
And today Wen Jiabao attacked Bo ruthlessly. It will be nice indeed to see two CCP's instead of one.
And today Wen Jiabao attacked Bo ruthlessly. It will be nice indeed to see two CCP's instead of one.
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Amoy.
That was a very interesting post.
Indeed, the gap between the rich and the poor is what causes discontent, and more so, if it is large and can be observed by the means of difference in creature comforts.
Mao was right that one had to have a job and something to eat and it was essential then. However, don't you think that given the world of today, competition even amongst people is essential for a nation to keep inventing itself? Of course, the problem is that the those at the helm of power can manipulate the system and get rich. And then there are those who have a cunning mind who can reach high through illegal means.
Catch 22!
That was a very interesting post.
Indeed, the gap between the rich and the poor is what causes discontent, and more so, if it is large and can be observed by the means of difference in creature comforts.
Mao was right that one had to have a job and something to eat and it was essential then. However, don't you think that given the world of today, competition even amongst people is essential for a nation to keep inventing itself? Of course, the problem is that the those at the helm of power can manipulate the system and get rich. And then there are those who have a cunning mind who can reach high through illegal means.
Catch 22!
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U still don't get it? China population is 1.38bln. People don't only have divided opinions over a single figure Bo or Wen, but also over a single issue. Like u India's online army on DFI sounds overwhelmingly negative about Mamata B. or Rahul Gandhi but she/he enjoys kinda popularity or even got elected in real life?! So u're also divided!Nice, so we do have a lot of support for Bo from the CCP online army too. So does this mean the CCP is also divided about Bo? Rather does this not mean that the CCP is divided about Bo? Cracks in the CCP for sure.
And today Wen Jiabao attacked Bo ruthlessly. It will be nice indeed to see two CCP's instead of one.
One of differences btwn India and China may be China has 111million internet users vs. India 51 million. Source: India Watch :: India - China Comparison Thus u're expected to note more polarizing views popping up. But pls get accustomed to such a diversity.
It's like Wen hails "hey let's make the cake bigger and bigger". On the other side Bo rebukes "look, who're taking the big slices while many are in pathetic conditions?". Regret u only know English so u have no access to the 1st hand info on how Chinese are over such matters. But I do feel such debates are "healthy" up to the moment, much better than everybody is muzzled or attuned to the same "harmonious" society fantasy. "When" is basically a lame duck and often mocked as a "Best Actor" owing to his incompetence like in curbing property speculation or his family...
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the point is we get to express our opinions through an electoral process. you get a decision shoved down your throat. thats the bottom line.
No more debate, the corrupted and supporter of Cultural Revolution have been remove from his post as head of Chongqing.
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Wen warns of challenges as China welcomes new year
(Reuters) - Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao warned his people to keep a "sober mind" about the challenges ahead in the new year as the country welcomed the arrival of the Year of the Tiger with noisy celebrations on Saturday.
"In 2010, China will face a more complicated situation, both at home and abroad," the state news agency Xinhua paraphrased Wen as saying, in remarks carried in major newspapers.
People must "keep a sober mind and an enhanced sense of anxiety about lagging behind," the premier added.
Priority should be given to "persistence in taking economic development as the central task, forcefully promoting reform and opening up ... and doing a better job responding to the global financial crisis, in order to keep steady and relatively fast economic development."
The government is trying to maintain a balance between the economic growth needed to create jobs for the country's 1.3 billion people, and not letting the economy overheat and drive up the cost of basic goods and housing for residents.
China raised the level of reserves banks must hold for the second time this year on Friday, spooking financial markets on the eve of its New Year holiday by showing it was intent to curb lending and inflation.
China powered to 8.7 percent growth last year, by far the strongest of any major economy, driving demand for everything from Chilean copper to Australian iron ore.
"Shanghai house prices must fall, they cannot go higher, this year they must fall," said Shanghai resident Ge Jieyou, 53. "We have a lot of corruption here, I don't think that will change this year."
Wen, who in previous years has spent the holiday with everyone from AIDS patients to survivors of 2008's devastating Sichuan earthquake, this year visited a drought-struck part of the southern region of Guangxi, state television said.
Wen warns of challenges as China welcomes new year | Reuters
(Reuters) - Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao warned his people to keep a "sober mind" about the challenges ahead in the new year as the country welcomed the arrival of the Year of the Tiger with noisy celebrations on Saturday.
"In 2010, China will face a more complicated situation, both at home and abroad," the state news agency Xinhua paraphrased Wen as saying, in remarks carried in major newspapers.
People must "keep a sober mind and an enhanced sense of anxiety about lagging behind," the premier added.
Priority should be given to "persistence in taking economic development as the central task, forcefully promoting reform and opening up ... and doing a better job responding to the global financial crisis, in order to keep steady and relatively fast economic development."
The government is trying to maintain a balance between the economic growth needed to create jobs for the country's 1.3 billion people, and not letting the economy overheat and drive up the cost of basic goods and housing for residents.
China raised the level of reserves banks must hold for the second time this year on Friday, spooking financial markets on the eve of its New Year holiday by showing it was intent to curb lending and inflation.
China powered to 8.7 percent growth last year, by far the strongest of any major economy, driving demand for everything from Chilean copper to Australian iron ore.
"Shanghai house prices must fall, they cannot go higher, this year they must fall," said Shanghai resident Ge Jieyou, 53. "We have a lot of corruption here, I don't think that will change this year."
Wen, who in previous years has spent the holiday with everyone from AIDS patients to survivors of 2008's devastating Sichuan earthquake, this year visited a drought-struck part of the southern region of Guangxi, state television said.
Wen warns of challenges as China welcomes new year | Reuters
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I am sure that there will be different opinions.
But the administration in China, as people say, is not quite ready to accept criticism of the Govt. Those who are strident in their opposition to the Govt find themselves sent for re-education or are placed under house arrest. There are cases discussed on this forum with authentic reports.
That is not the case in India since it is a democracy.
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Analysis
Michael Bristow BBC News, Beijing
There has been speculation about Bo Xilai's future for some time. It began when the police chief he promoted spent a day at a US consulate - and was then detained by Chinese security forces when he came out. Although Mr Bo was not formally linked to this case - and denied he was involved - many believed it would tarnish him.
It seems it has.
Mr Bo has for several years been one of China's highest-profile politicians, running campaigns in Chongqing to crack down on organised crime and re-establish a love for the country's communist past. Those campaigns were popular and many tipped him for promotion when the Chinese Communist Party changes its top leader later this year.
His pitch for a top job now seems to have failed. China's state-run Xinhua said only that Mr Bo has been replaced as party chief in Chongqing. But he has surely been sacked.
This is one of the opening shots in the battle among those who want to be the next leaders of the party.
Michael Bristow BBC News, Beijing
There has been speculation about Bo Xilai's future for some time. It began when the police chief he promoted spent a day at a US consulate - and was then detained by Chinese security forces when he came out. Although Mr Bo was not formally linked to this case - and denied he was involved - many believed it would tarnish him.
It seems it has.
Mr Bo has for several years been one of China's highest-profile politicians, running campaigns in Chongqing to crack down on organised crime and re-establish a love for the country's communist past. Those campaigns were popular and many tipped him for promotion when the Chinese Communist Party changes its top leader later this year.
His pitch for a top job now seems to have failed. China's state-run Xinhua said only that Mr Bo has been replaced as party chief in Chongqing. But he has surely been sacked.
This is one of the opening shots in the battle among those who want to be the next leaders of the party.
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Bo is no pushover.
He is a hardened political animal in the Chinese political arena.
He will not give up so easily.
Turbulent times for China.
He will surely exploit the warning given by Wen that unless there is political reforms, there will be another cultural revolution!
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China faces to watch: Bo Xilai
Bo Xilai is the nearest thing China has to a Western-style politician.
Like Xi Jinping, he is the son of a famous communist hero, but he has gone on to forge his own unique public personality.
He ran the big coastal city of Dalian and then became commerce minister, before moving to his current post in charge in Chongqing, a sprawling city in western China.
While there he has launched two high-profile campaigns, including one to promote China's communist past.
The other sought to crack down on the city's organised crime, which previously seemed to operate with the protection of many government officials.
Suave and sophisticated, Mr Bo sent his son to study at Harrow, one of the UK's most exclusive private schools.
The politician seems at home in front of the cameras and appears to enjoy pushing his policies in public.
Perhaps that might be his undoing.
The cult of personality that formed around Chairman Mao led to serious problems and since than Chinese leaders have tried to remain obscure.
They might be wary of promoting someone as flash as Mr Bo.
The 62-year-old will also have to explain the strange incident in which his chosen police chief in Chongqing, Wang Lijun, spent a day at the US consulate in Chengdu after being demoted.
Mr Wang has since disappeared, but that has not ended the speculation about what he was doing there.
The episode might provide ammunition for those who want to halt Mr Bo's advance.
BBC News - China faces to watch: Bo Xilai
Bo Xilai is the nearest thing China has to a Western-style politician.
Like Xi Jinping, he is the son of a famous communist hero, but he has gone on to forge his own unique public personality.
He ran the big coastal city of Dalian and then became commerce minister, before moving to his current post in charge in Chongqing, a sprawling city in western China.
While there he has launched two high-profile campaigns, including one to promote China's communist past.
The other sought to crack down on the city's organised crime, which previously seemed to operate with the protection of many government officials.
Suave and sophisticated, Mr Bo sent his son to study at Harrow, one of the UK's most exclusive private schools.
The politician seems at home in front of the cameras and appears to enjoy pushing his policies in public.
Perhaps that might be his undoing.
The cult of personality that formed around Chairman Mao led to serious problems and since than Chinese leaders have tried to remain obscure.
They might be wary of promoting someone as flash as Mr Bo.
The 62-year-old will also have to explain the strange incident in which his chosen police chief in Chongqing, Wang Lijun, spent a day at the US consulate in Chengdu after being demoted.
Mr Wang has since disappeared, but that has not ended the speculation about what he was doing there.
The episode might provide ammunition for those who want to halt Mr Bo's advance.
BBC News - China faces to watch: Bo Xilai
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China's leaders jockey for top posts
There are no opinion polls, no official candidates, not even a declared race - but a political campaign has begun in China.
Senior politicians are vying to secure promotion when the Chinese Communist Party reshuffles its top leaders later this year.
Some are using China's annual parliamentary session, currently taking place in Beijing, to push their competing claims.
Whoever emerges at the top of the party will have been selected by senior leaders using an unknown process at secret meetings.
Chinese citizens will not be involved.
But there are those who believe China's 1.3 billion people should have more say in how the country's leaders are chosen.
China will begin the process of handing over power to a new group of leaders at the end of this year when the party holds its 18th congress.
Seven out of nine people on the party's politburo standing committee - the country's most important decision-making body - are due to retire.
Xi Jinping, the current vice-president, and Vice-Premier Li Keqiang are the only ones expected to retain their seats.
All the others are up for grabs.
Although China's citizens will not be able to vote for them at an election, these hopefuls still have to show their appeal.
That is why politicians attending China's parliament, officially called the National People's Congress (NPC), are showing off their credentials.
Good politician
One man with expectations is Wang Yang, the current Communist Party boss in Guangdong province, the centre of China's export trade.
He has a reputation as a reformer, a theme he chose to highlight when Guangdong's NPC delegates met for their own meeting.
"Our reforms will take an important step forward if [we] represent the interests of the majority of people and not just the interests of minority groups," he said, to applause.
Like all good politicians, Mr Wang knows how to talk to an audience, making jokes and appealing to popular sentiment.
In a question-and-answer session with journalists, he said that Chinese elections to choose village heads should be more than mere "formalities".
The 56-year-old even looks slightly different to other candidates, allowing his hair to grey naturally at the sides, rather than trying to keep it jet black as most senior leaders prefer.
Bo Xilai, the party chief in the city of Chongqing, is another man tipped for a top job, although he has been quieter than usual at this parliament because of a scandal involving his former police chief.
But even he managed to put over his political outlook to those listening.
"If only a few people are rich, then we are capitalists, we've failed," he said at a meeting of Chongqing delegates.
There is little news in the official Chinese media about this political race, which will be decided by a few hundred top party leaders.
But Willy Lam, of the Chinese University of Hong Kong, said the competition for seats on the politburo standing committee was intense.
"They will be meeting behind the scenes to discuss the latest horse-trading and jockeying for power," he said.
Whoever comes out victorious later this year, one thing is certain: there will have been minimal input from ordinary Chinese citizens.
Independent candidate
That annoys Beijing resident Ye Jingchun.
The 55-year-old is one of a growing band of people who want to join the political system in order to have a say in how the country is run.
But like others before her, she now knows that the Chinese Communist Party has little patience with those that might oppose it.
Ms Ye was one of dozens of independent candidates who tried to stand at elections for district-level people's congresses, local government bodies below the NPC currently taking place in Beijing.
She wanted to stand in Beijing's Xicheng district.
China's propaganda machine made a big show of the election in this district because of a very famous voter, the country's president, Hu Jintao.
Official media reports showed Mr Hu pushing his voting slip into the ballot box last November. "I'm glad to exercise my right as a voter," he was reported as saying.
But Ms Ye's experience was not so enjoyable.
She said that when she tried to stand as a candidate, she was harassed by the police, roughed up and ultimately prevented from putting her name forward.
"At first I thought they'd let me stand, but as it went on, it became too difficult. The suppression was outrageous," she said.
Undeterred, she campaigned anyway, standing in residential compounds handing out leaflets and telling residents about her intentions.
When voting day came, she put her own name on the ballot paper - as you are legally entitled to do in China - and urged her supporters to do the same.
Ms Ye does not know how many votes she received that day though, as the number cast for each candidate was never made public.
"The Chinese government doesn't really want true democracy," she said afterwards.
That certainly seems to be the case at the moment.
Chinese top leaders are currently engrossed in a battle to see which of them will shape the country in the coming decade.
But that fight will largely bypass the people they will end up governing.
BBC News - China's leaders jockey for top posts
There are no opinion polls, no official candidates, not even a declared race - but a political campaign has begun in China.
Senior politicians are vying to secure promotion when the Chinese Communist Party reshuffles its top leaders later this year.
Some are using China's annual parliamentary session, currently taking place in Beijing, to push their competing claims.
Whoever emerges at the top of the party will have been selected by senior leaders using an unknown process at secret meetings.
Chinese citizens will not be involved.
But there are those who believe China's 1.3 billion people should have more say in how the country's leaders are chosen.
China will begin the process of handing over power to a new group of leaders at the end of this year when the party holds its 18th congress.
Seven out of nine people on the party's politburo standing committee - the country's most important decision-making body - are due to retire.
Xi Jinping, the current vice-president, and Vice-Premier Li Keqiang are the only ones expected to retain their seats.
All the others are up for grabs.
Although China's citizens will not be able to vote for them at an election, these hopefuls still have to show their appeal.
That is why politicians attending China's parliament, officially called the National People's Congress (NPC), are showing off their credentials.
Good politician
One man with expectations is Wang Yang, the current Communist Party boss in Guangdong province, the centre of China's export trade.
He has a reputation as a reformer, a theme he chose to highlight when Guangdong's NPC delegates met for their own meeting.
"Our reforms will take an important step forward if [we] represent the interests of the majority of people and not just the interests of minority groups," he said, to applause.
Like all good politicians, Mr Wang knows how to talk to an audience, making jokes and appealing to popular sentiment.
In a question-and-answer session with journalists, he said that Chinese elections to choose village heads should be more than mere "formalities".
The 56-year-old even looks slightly different to other candidates, allowing his hair to grey naturally at the sides, rather than trying to keep it jet black as most senior leaders prefer.
Bo Xilai, the party chief in the city of Chongqing, is another man tipped for a top job, although he has been quieter than usual at this parliament because of a scandal involving his former police chief.
But even he managed to put over his political outlook to those listening.
"If only a few people are rich, then we are capitalists, we've failed," he said at a meeting of Chongqing delegates.
There is little news in the official Chinese media about this political race, which will be decided by a few hundred top party leaders.
But Willy Lam, of the Chinese University of Hong Kong, said the competition for seats on the politburo standing committee was intense.
"They will be meeting behind the scenes to discuss the latest horse-trading and jockeying for power," he said.
Whoever comes out victorious later this year, one thing is certain: there will have been minimal input from ordinary Chinese citizens.
Independent candidate
That annoys Beijing resident Ye Jingchun.
The 55-year-old is one of a growing band of people who want to join the political system in order to have a say in how the country is run.
But like others before her, she now knows that the Chinese Communist Party has little patience with those that might oppose it.
Ms Ye was one of dozens of independent candidates who tried to stand at elections for district-level people's congresses, local government bodies below the NPC currently taking place in Beijing.
She wanted to stand in Beijing's Xicheng district.
China's propaganda machine made a big show of the election in this district because of a very famous voter, the country's president, Hu Jintao.
Official media reports showed Mr Hu pushing his voting slip into the ballot box last November. "I'm glad to exercise my right as a voter," he was reported as saying.
But Ms Ye's experience was not so enjoyable.
She said that when she tried to stand as a candidate, she was harassed by the police, roughed up and ultimately prevented from putting her name forward.
"At first I thought they'd let me stand, but as it went on, it became too difficult. The suppression was outrageous," she said.
Undeterred, she campaigned anyway, standing in residential compounds handing out leaflets and telling residents about her intentions.
When voting day came, she put her own name on the ballot paper - as you are legally entitled to do in China - and urged her supporters to do the same.
Ms Ye does not know how many votes she received that day though, as the number cast for each candidate was never made public.
"The Chinese government doesn't really want true democracy," she said afterwards.
That certainly seems to be the case at the moment.
Chinese top leaders are currently engrossed in a battle to see which of them will shape the country in the coming decade.
But that fight will largely bypass the people they will end up governing.
BBC News - China's leaders jockey for top posts
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Wen calls for reforms to avoid another Cultural Revolution
BEIJING -- China could see a repeat of the Cultural Revolution's deadly chaos without "urgent" political reform, Wen Jiabao warned Wednesday in a dramatic parting shot at his final news conference as premier.
Wen is widely considered the most progressive of China's current leaders, but analysts said the comments, at the closing of the annual parliamentary session, were his strongest call yet for political reform in the one-party state.
"We must press ahead with both economic structural reform and political structural reform, in particular reform in the leadership system of our party and country," he told reporters, adding it was an "urgent task."
"New problems that have cropped up in China's society will not be fundamentally resolved, and such historical tragedy as the Cultural Revolution may happen again."
The 1966-1976 Cultural Revolution was a decade of brutal chaos launched by revolutionary leader Mao Zedong to bring down what he perceived as "capitalist" forces after other leaders sought to move away from his radical utopian ideas.
Untold numbers died in the turmoil as students turned on teachers, officials were purged and the country and its economy were brought to a virtual standstill. That period still haunts the older Chinese generation today.
Wen's comments came after China's parliament passed into law changes to the criminal law that give police the power to detain some suspects in secret locations known as "black jails," a move criticized by rights groups.
The 3,000 members of the National People's Congress (NPC) voted overwhelmingly in favor of the legal amendments, which have been widely criticized.
But experts said an eleventh-hour change to the bill obliging police to inform relatives of those placed in informal detention within 24 hours was a victory for legal reformists.
It is the last time Wen will speak at the closing press conference — his successor will be appointed at the 2013 NPC — and the premier was visibly emotional.
"The reference to the risk of a new Cultural Revolution is the strongest statement ever made by Wen Jiabao on the urgency of carrying out political reforms," said Nicholas Bequelin, senior Asia researcher at Human Rights Watch.
"By political reforms he doesn't mean democratization but rather a series of reforms that go beyond technocratic tinkering — establishing a real rule of law, enfranchising workers."
Wen is the only leader to have repeatedly spoken of the need for political reform in China, although he has never fully elaborated on what this would entail, and critics have accused him of merely paying lip service to the issue.
China's ruling Communist Party — which controls the army and the government — maintains an iron grip on political power, and other leaders have in the past ruled out any shift to multi-party democracy.
Analysts also said Wen's warning on the Cultural Revolution could be an oblique criticism of Bo Xilai, head of the southwestern metropolis of Chongqing, who has launched a Maoist revival campaign that has sparked concern among liberals.
His comments on the importance of reforming China's leadership may also be a thinly-veiled criticism of the party's huge power in the country, they said.
"The subtext is that the party has too much power, the party is interfering in the work of the government," said Willy Lam, a leading China expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, told AFP.
"He wants to reiterate the importance of separation of power and government."
Wen calls for reforms to avoid another Cultural Revolution - The China Post
BEIJING -- China could see a repeat of the Cultural Revolution's deadly chaos without "urgent" political reform, Wen Jiabao warned Wednesday in a dramatic parting shot at his final news conference as premier.
Wen is widely considered the most progressive of China's current leaders, but analysts said the comments, at the closing of the annual parliamentary session, were his strongest call yet for political reform in the one-party state.
"We must press ahead with both economic structural reform and political structural reform, in particular reform in the leadership system of our party and country," he told reporters, adding it was an "urgent task."
"New problems that have cropped up in China's society will not be fundamentally resolved, and such historical tragedy as the Cultural Revolution may happen again."
The 1966-1976 Cultural Revolution was a decade of brutal chaos launched by revolutionary leader Mao Zedong to bring down what he perceived as "capitalist" forces after other leaders sought to move away from his radical utopian ideas.
Untold numbers died in the turmoil as students turned on teachers, officials were purged and the country and its economy were brought to a virtual standstill. That period still haunts the older Chinese generation today.
Wen's comments came after China's parliament passed into law changes to the criminal law that give police the power to detain some suspects in secret locations known as "black jails," a move criticized by rights groups.
The 3,000 members of the National People's Congress (NPC) voted overwhelmingly in favor of the legal amendments, which have been widely criticized.
But experts said an eleventh-hour change to the bill obliging police to inform relatives of those placed in informal detention within 24 hours was a victory for legal reformists.
It is the last time Wen will speak at the closing press conference — his successor will be appointed at the 2013 NPC — and the premier was visibly emotional.
"The reference to the risk of a new Cultural Revolution is the strongest statement ever made by Wen Jiabao on the urgency of carrying out political reforms," said Nicholas Bequelin, senior Asia researcher at Human Rights Watch.
"By political reforms he doesn't mean democratization but rather a series of reforms that go beyond technocratic tinkering — establishing a real rule of law, enfranchising workers."
Wen is the only leader to have repeatedly spoken of the need for political reform in China, although he has never fully elaborated on what this would entail, and critics have accused him of merely paying lip service to the issue.
China's ruling Communist Party — which controls the army and the government — maintains an iron grip on political power, and other leaders have in the past ruled out any shift to multi-party democracy.
Analysts also said Wen's warning on the Cultural Revolution could be an oblique criticism of Bo Xilai, head of the southwestern metropolis of Chongqing, who has launched a Maoist revival campaign that has sparked concern among liberals.
His comments on the importance of reforming China's leadership may also be a thinly-veiled criticism of the party's huge power in the country, they said.
"The subtext is that the party has too much power, the party is interfering in the work of the government," said Willy Lam, a leading China expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, told AFP.
"He wants to reiterate the importance of separation of power and government."
Wen calls for reforms to avoid another Cultural Revolution - The China Post
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The CCP army is unusually silent on this one. Can admins add a poll for the Chinese members with an option for non Chinese as only following the poll. I'd like to know if there is still support for Bo from the online Chinese members 
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Could you give the questions that should be on the poll?The CCP army is unusually silent on this one. Can admins add a poll for the Chinese members with an option for non Chinese as only following the poll. I'd like to know if there is still support for Bo from the online Chinese members
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You are asking those people to participate in a poll in which they don't believeThe CCP army is unusually silent on this one. Can admins add a poll for the Chinese members with an option for non Chinese as only following the poll. I'd like to know if there is still support for Bo from the online Chinese members
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Poll Question : Do you support Bo Xilai's ouster?
Option 1] Yes I do
Option 2] No I dont, he should form a separatist group to take on the CCP and get justice
Option 3] No I dont, but he should walk away quietly without causing any trouble.
Option 4] I am not Chinese, just following the poll
DD, even online armies have their allegiances. Let us see if they vote as one or are brave enough to voice their genuine opinions. Amoy for one seems to be a staunch supporter of Bo. Hats off Amoy for having the courage to defy the official stance.
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I absolutely knew that Bo days were limited years back when he started his clean-up. His methods were driving up tremendous mass support and as soon as it became clear that the younger by 4 years Ji was the heir to be, Bo was in trouble. Bo is 62 and by the next term he would be 72 so no chance of becoming prez. As soon as he knew that Ji was the favoured one he started with the little red book propaganda.
This whole saga has nothing to do with anything wrong that Bo did, nor has it anything to do with his wealth. Every senior politician in the CCP is STINKING rich. And if Bo's methods were incorrect it should have been stopped half a decade when he started the massacre against the street gangs.
This current strip down and beating of Bo is to ensure the CCP does not have to deal with factionalism once Ji assumes the helm.
This whole saga has nothing to do with anything wrong that Bo did, nor has it anything to do with his wealth. Every senior politician in the CCP is STINKING rich. And if Bo's methods were incorrect it should have been stopped half a decade when he started the massacre against the street gangs.
This current strip down and beating of Bo is to ensure the CCP does not have to deal with factionalism once Ji assumes the helm.
