Small arms of India

[Akshay Fenix]

It is a 7.62*51 derivative of the Excalibur, not the ak 103.

I got that info from Indra News Network, where did you get yours?

 

[Prashant12]

Assam Rifles recieved their modified AKs with FAB defence mod.

https://www.facebook.com/TeamINDRA/

 

[Kchontha]

Assam Rifles recieved their modified AKs with FAB defence mod.

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https://www.facebook.com/TeamINDRA/

The gun looks owesome. I saw some pic of modified ak in previous pages also. Which agency is responsible for this modification? Anybody through some light.

 

[Prashant12]

The gun looks owesome. I saw some pic of modified ak in previous pages also. Which agency is responsible for this modification? Anybody through some light.

FAB Defense
https://www.fab-defense.com/

 

[Vinod DX9]

In pic - Modified AK ( Modification done by the parts of an Israeli firm called FAB Defence)

The modified parts include -
• T-POD G2 QR Foregrip
• AGR-47 Pistol Grip
• GLR 16 Butt Stock
• Picatinny Dust Cover Rail
• QuadRail Polymer Handguard

And Zeiss RSA-S sight

Do you want more pics of it?

 

[debspark90]

More pics of FAB Defense modified AKs. From this it is clear there are two different types of stocks chosen for them out of a the many available

 

[Vorschlaghammer]

This one seems real neat. Without buttstock and angled ammo box, this is almost like a "bullpup" Pecheneg mg.

Full power rounds in a rather small package. SF guys could have use for this kind of setup.

 

[Vijyes]

Does the bullshit shitted by presstitutes matter at all? Isn't it the MoD which is in control? How does it matter what a common man thinks? It was congress back then creating problems

 

[TheHurtLocker]

The device(Podavach) used in this video to load the magazines is very cool.
I wonder whether the Army has them.

 

[tharun]

The device(Podavach) used in this video to load the magazines is very cool.
I wonder whether the Army has them.

No armies uses these fancy items.
Soldiers always load magazines by their hands.

 

[Johny_Baba]

This was from 2009, Excalibur as well as Kalantak micro assault rifle ..

Kalantak was not adopted because the some people complained about high recoil, But the same people have no issues with Galil ace which was same size and has same recoil and saw operational use within SF ..

This forced 5.56 x 30mm round in the picture, Now when we have Amogh and its operational and MSMC cleared its trails during 2016, But their is still 9mm carbine in service and people are busy preparing RFI for carbine tender which failed before.

It seems like some people are experts in preparing unrealistic tender or changing the goalpost rather than procuring the needy for the men on the ground.

Kalashnikov configuration has some limitations in short barreled configuration (while keeping the cartridge meant to fire same as 'standard configuration').

One limitation in short barrel configuration is that since the barrel is shortened the pressure created by propellants increases and this heavily pressurised gas creates a phenomena called 'overgassing',due to which rate of fire of the weapon may reach to some uncontrollable levels (say,750 - 800 rounds per minute).Another side effect of overgassing is it makes weapon more louder than 'standard one' and finally it also increases the recoil of firearm to some extent.

Sure,there're some 'Jugaads' to stabilise highly pressurised gases in this configuration like changing rifling twists to some higher rate in order to make bullet travel 'slower' and using specifically designed muzzle brakes (e.g that 'barrel type' muzzle brake being used in 'AKS-74U' and so on) etc.I wonder what precautions they took in Kalantak rifle to suppress the effects of overgassing,recoil and loud bang.

 

[Adioz]

No armies uses these fancy items.
Soldiers always load magazines by their hands.

They do. Sometimes:-
30 car

 

[Johny_Baba]

They do. Sometimes:-
30 car

It was a extended Stripper Clip Guide to load STANAG type magazine faster with 10-round stripper clips.Just a nice alternative to standard issue stripper clip guide and stripper clips.

ProMag Extended Stripper Clip Guide by Midway USA

Standard Issue USGI Stripepr Clip Guide and 10-round Stripper Clips for STANAG type 5.56 x 45mm magazines

 

[TheHurtLocker]

No armies uses these fancy items.
Soldiers always load magazines by their hands.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/14/review-podavach-speed-magazine-loader/

 

[tharun]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/14/review-podavach-speed-magazine-loader/

They may be used in peace time or at ranges but not in times of patrol or war...........................

 

[TheHurtLocker]

They may be used in peace time or at ranges but not in times of patrol or war...........................

You may be right. Although at roughly INR5K or 75$ it wouldn't be all that big a deal I suppose.

 

[porky_kicker]

a interesting product from kalyani - RONI

 

[Johny_Baba]

a interesting product from kalyani - RONI

Remember Bond's Pistol-Carbine from 'Spectre' ?

This attachment for Glock type pistol is similar to it.In fact,Bond used same pistol with that attachment in the movie (perhaps Glock 18).

FAB Defense KPOS Glock to Carbine Conversion Attachment Kit

 

[deejai]

Kalashnikov configuration has some limitations in short barreled configuration (while keeping the cartridge meant to fire same as 'standard configuration').

One limitation in short barrel configuration is that since the barrel is shortened the pressure created by propellants increases and this heavily pressurised gas creates a phenomena called 'overgassing',due to which rate of fire of the weapon may reach to some uncontrollable levels (say,750 - 800 rounds per minute).Another side effect of overgassing is it makes weapon more louder than 'standard one' and finally it also increases the recoil of firearm to some extent.

Sure,there're some 'Jugaads' to stabilise highly pressurised gases in this configuration like changing rifling twists to some higher rate in order to make bullet travel 'slower' and using specifically designed muzzle brakes (e.g that 'barrel type' muzzle brake being used in 'AKS-74U' and so on) etc.I wonder what precautions they took in Kalantak rifle to suppress the effects of overgassing,recoil and loud bang.

This isn't quite right, it's the opposite. Shorter barreled AK tend to be undergassed. Shorter barrels have less space for gunpowder to adequately burn and build gas pressure. Its evident by the fact that short barrel rifle tend to have alot more muzzle flash. Its because some of the gunpowder is igniting after the bullet leaves the muzzle. Short barrel rifles tend to be less reliable. The shortest barrel length for a reliable M4 is 10.5 inches, anything shorter just wont work. The muzzle device on the AKS74u isn't just a brake, its also an expansion chamber. The AKS74U needs it to work, it traps expanding gas and creates enough back pressure for the rifle to cycle. Even then, the Russians were never totally satisfied with the reliability of the AKS74U and replaced it with the AK105.

Theres nothing wrong with an overgassed rifle. Its not really a problem for a regular AK because it was designed to be rugged and handle high gas pressure. It's unheard of to hear about an AK beating itself to death, they pretty much last forever. Overgassing allows the AK to function reliably with weak ammunition and it mud or snow.

 

[Johny_Baba]

This isn't quite right, it's the opposite. Shorter barreled AK tend to be undergassed. Shorter barrels have less space for gunpowder to adequately burn and build gas pressure. Its evident by the fact that short barrel rifle tend to have alot more muzzle flash. Its because some of the gunpowder is igniting after the bullet leaves the muzzle. Short barrel rifles tend to be less reliable. The shortest barrel length for a reliable M4 is 10.5 inches, anything shorter just wont work. The muzzle device on the AKS74u isn't just a brake, its also an expansion chamber. The AKS74U needs it to work, it traps expanding gas and creates enough back pressure for the rifle to cycle. Even then, the Russians were never totally satisfied with the reliability of the AKS74U and replaced it with the AK105.

Theres nothing wrong with an overgassed rifle. Its not really a problem for a regular AK because it was designed to be rugged and handle high gas pressure. It's unheard of to hear about an AK beating itself to death, they pretty much last forever. Overgassing allows the AK to function reliably with weak ammunition and it mud or snow.

Oh my bad,I guess i need some revision on my knowledge and understanding of firearms.

Anyway,then what do you think about Kalantak and its alleged issues such as high recoil ? What could be behind that?

As for AK-105,even that weapon has the similar 'muzzle booster' device as AKS-74U,so my question is does it also has problem of undergasing without that muzzle booster device?