Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

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  1. Poseidon

    Poseidon Senior Member Senior Member

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    Two persons including a serving Pakistan army Subedar Shaukat Kiani who was apparently on leave killed in Indian shelling in Abbaspur sector of Poonch in POK.
     
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    What is a subedar on leave doing at a border outpost in Poonch getting killed?
    Either pakjabi's put him on leave after his death to reduce official body count or these "on leave" subedars become scouts in civilian dress to abet infiltration, plausible reason for high civilian casualties on the pak side of LOC. In either case the "being on leave" is a facade for something sinister?

    http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/...an-trade-fire-along-loc-in-poonch/268257.html
    "An official said that the exchange of fire began at 2:45 pm in Degwar and Malti sectors of the district."

    “Pakistan army opened fire on Indian positions at 14:45 hours with automatics and resorted to mortar shelling,” he said, adding that Indian troops retaliated effectively and strongly."
     
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    Apparently on leave left the earth.
     
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    They have been hiding their causalities for a while now. IA is really hitting them hard. But we need strikes inside PoK and pakjab to make them pay.
     
  6. Nanjesh Patel

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    Time will come my friend, time will come. Have patience till then. Don't let emotions nor adrenaline or hatred cloud your thoughts.
     
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    Many serving and retired Paki soldiers have their houses a few km from the border/LoC. One of the reasons for giving cheap/free land to retired Pakis near the border is so that they can help in infiltrating these terror yahoos across into India.

    Many such retired Porks have been killed by Indian arty shelling but they won't admit it.
     
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    The deceased, identified as Muhammad Iqbal Kiani and his cousin Shaukat Kiani, belonged to the nearby village of Chaffar. They were in their late forties.

    Residents said that Shaukat Kiani was a Subedar (junior commissioned officer) in the army and had come home on leave.

    His body was brought to the Abbaspur Tehsil Headquarters (THQ) Hospital for fulfilment of procedural requirements.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1375158
     
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    LordOfTheUnderworlds Senior Member Senior Member

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    Kiani=Gakhar i. e. Northern Punjabi/Potohari.
    And these people want Kashmir valley.
     
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    captscooby81 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Not sure when and where but kuch toh hua hai china border mein ..:hippo:

    LAC Chinese.jpg

     
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    one more throwing light on our neighbours :pound::pound:

    Lt Gen PB.jpg
    Lt gen P Bakshi.jpg
     
  12. Kshithij

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    300 means less than 1 per day. It is indeed possible. More Indian soldiers have died every year, some to suicide, some in counter insurgency, some in ceasefire

    They can hit, but the problem is that nuclear bombs are not all powerful. Just look at the video of nuclear testing on youtube. India can invade pakistan quite easily and has a much larger military industrial complex. With recent indigenisation and privatisation, India is now capable of having 70% of weapons indigenously. Some more improvements in engine technology of Kaveri, turboshaft and tank engine, AESA radar and some other improvements and India will have all ot needs. I would say that by 2027,India is likely to be almost fully indigenous in arms manufacturing.

    You are mistaking the reality. After a one sided war with Pakistan, India will lose little but have extremely angry people and devoid of mualims. Angry people will make the country great, not weak.

    Second, Chinese are not known to have genocidal intentions. I would actually prefer to team up with Chinese against the islamist and west.

    The drama of NSG and all are just facewash. Reality is that Turkey is opposing India and China only covers it up by pretending to be anti India to prevent spilling over religion card when the oil is still flowing
     
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  13. Kshithij

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    We have to wait till oil runs out. Gid has created great injustice by giving oil to muslims. But they were also deprived if food. So, till they keep supplying oil, they get higher leverage. They have to supply oil as they need food. But, since food is not monopoly of a few, unlike oil, Muslims have a higher leverage than food suppliers.

    Due to injustice of God, we have to be patient. Can't go against god.

    Chill out. I see Modi trying to befriend china. Chinese are 1000 times more reasonable than muslims and 10 times more benign than USA. USA has more resources and hence is showing arrogance and others tolerating it.
     
  14. Kshithij

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    There is no point blaming chinese for these things. They are simple work and chinese are doing business. The question is why Pakistan is asking China to build bunkers
     
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    ^ They are hoping to host some Cheeni troops there.. Or at least that's the message they wish to send to us. That we will be facing a joint Napaki-Cheeni front.

    More likely Napakis are incapable of building a sandaas let alone a bunker...
     
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    More likely chinese troops will be required to evacuate the chinese citizens when mullahs start rioting and raiding the massage parlors and cpec routes.
     
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  17. Kshithij

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    Chinese are not crazy. They will not risk their soldiers for a crazed Pakistan. Pakistan can't be controlled. The mullahs are fully crazed and insane. They will stop at nothing.

    China can never handle Pakistani mullahs
     
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    NSG could be a drama. And Turkey is a supporter of Pak.

    But the fact is India and China needs to be clear about the limitations. They can use the roads but India will run the seas. Make this pact clear with them. More problem comes when there is no clear and stable policy inside your own system. That gives more trouble and chances of skirmish.The Govt changes the policy changes.
     
  19. Kshithij

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    As Mr Lanba said, Chinese are not yet a threat to India. So, it is again media hype. Now, Lama is toning down Tibet stance at Indian behest. There is something going on
     
  20. Screambowl

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    That rhetoric is not correct. No country fights directly
    China has Pak and Pak is not being friendly with India.

    To compete with Gwadar, China need access, gives them transportation from Mumbai or Kolkata for their goods. And make money. Their goods, India's transportation.

    I always say, India should concentrate more on sea transport
     

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