Sitara trainer poised to enter service

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  1. Kunal Biswas

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    Sitara trainer also poised to enter service

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    Source : In Tejas' shadow, Sitara trainer also poised to enter service | Business Standard
     
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    It went through a heart transplant since.So, the recuperation time increased.

    I mean the engine was changed to Al-55I.
     
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    how different is sitara as compare to hawk???
     
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    Sitara will be a stage 2 trainer whereas Hawk is a stage 3 trainer with IAF.
    so, there would be lot of differences.
    But, I am not the best person to answer.
     
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  8. Kunal Biswas

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    Quite frankly there is no Major difference between IJT and AJT ..

    Just names, The category are made for imports ..

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    Sittara and Hawk are almost same, Only difference is that HAWK as more powerful engine ..

    Other than that there function are same ..

     
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    Not really. Although an intermediate jet trainer overlaps in capability with a more capable basic trainer (PC-21, Super Tucano, KA-1, Texan II) and advanced trainers (BAE Hawk, M-346, Yak-130), they are in a category of their own. It depends on what kind of training the airforce is looking for, several airforces do the intermediate training on turboprops. Comparable to HJT-36 is Alenia M-345 HET and Alenia S-211.
     
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    looks interesting but just remember

    HAL is a pathological liar,so before we celebrate we need to make sure it gets inducted.

    call me anything but i don't trust these guys at all
     
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    Stick to the topic. No one's interested in your personal sob story with HAL.
     
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    as i keep telling ppl

    if u cannot fathom critisism leave the thread and mediate or go to mountains and become a sadhu.

    if u don't like a post,don't quote it to express ur feelings.just do something better
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    You dont understand the roles they are preforming, The category is not required when one of any two category exists, It nullify the other one ..

    The training are same which are done on both aircraft, As of now the exsistance of AJT is to have first hand experience of operating Jet and conduction similar maneuvers as learned in BTA, Now as IJT came into exsistance is it is doing same function, Hence the difference between AJT and IJT are now very little, Since that is the case the the category of AJT is same of IJT ..

    Hence the AJT catagory is not needed ..

     
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    Dear Gentleman/woman . if you come to know how your /our friends are sodomizing(apologies for using bad words) us by selling crap to us ,you will take back your statement !!!!
     
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    greetings!!! I am also clueless even though we are supplying somethings. I am few hundred miles away from the actual scenario!!! spin trials are pending i presume!!!
     
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    IJT cannot replace AJT. There is some overlap as far as handling a jet is concerned, but AJT is a twin engined design with almost twice the thrust of IJT. It can undertake much complex maneuvers and can simulate radars and weapons systems. AJT can simulate the handling characteristics during transonic flight as well, which the IJT cannot. As I said, IJT's capabilities overlap with basic trainer and AJT, but it is not a replacement.
     
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    sorry to say but that dosen't even make sense
     
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    @Twinblade, If you have opportunity to talk with some official in IAF ( Fighter Pilot ), Do asked abt the kind of manuvers and training they used to get in Kirans and HTT-32, And ask what kind of training and purpose such category has before you quote me ..

    I have asked these questions years back & hence my following replies were ..

     
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    And due to incomplete training they were being made to fly MiG-21. One of the major reasons for MiG-21 crashes was that the new pilots were unaccustomed to high landing and take off speeds and were unable to understand the plane's behaviour in trans sonic regions. IJT cannot replicate those conditions, that is for an advanced jet trainer to do. Most airforces consider an intermediate jet trainer unnecessary. USAF and USN have completely replaced T-37 intermediate trainer with Texan II, which is also used for their basic training. If IJT had been delayed further, the IAF too would have used more PC-7 for intermediate training and the cadets would not have missed a lot. Also. if an advanced trainer is so unnecessary then why was HAL proposing HJT-39 CAT ?
     
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