Sialkot sector: Heavy Indian shelling, firing

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  1. Neo

    Neo Senior Member Senior Member

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    Border violation: Heavy Indian shelling, firing in Sialkot sector injures three.


    July 20, 2014

    Three people were injured as a result of attack.


    SIALKOT:-The Indian Border Forces carried out intense mortar shelling and firing in the Sialkot sector along the international border early on Sunday morning, Express News reported.

    According to details, Indian army resorted to heavy firing in the Akhnoor sector in Sialkot.

    “As a result of the firing three people were injured including a woman,” said Rescue 1122.

    The injured were shifted from their native Pamal village to Allama Iqbal civil hospital for treatment.
    Pakistani border forces, the Chenab Rangers, retaliated to the attacks in kind.

    Sunday’s border violations follow similar Indian violations from earlier in the week which had left at least two Pakistani civilians injured in those cross-border violations.

    Border violation: Heavy Indian shelling, firing in Sialkot sector injures three – The Express Tribune
     
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    Good.

    You started it and now you are receiving it. Don't complain.
     
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    Actually what started it all was repairing of damaged fence by BSF along several sectors in India-Pak border. As repairing of damaged fence will aid in the anti-infiltration drive, Rangers obviously wouldn't like it and fired and injured BSF personnel and civilian porters. One jawan was KIA.

    Now, when BSF dusted out the mortars, Pakistanis have started complaining. But, what matters is BSF will make it even. Two soldiers have been injured from Pak side and a couple of civilians also have been injured.

    Pakistan has called for a flag meeting, lets see if cease-fire can be agreed upon in that.

    BTW, India is reinforcing the RS pura sector with 2000 addl. BSF jawans.
     
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    Ashutosh Lokhande Senior Member Senior Member

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    @Neo , why does pak army keep violating ceasefire and then complain when Indian forces spank on there buttcheeks?
    not trolling but seriously i wanted to know your views on pak armies countless voilations even after the shimla agreement.
     
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  6. Neo

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    It has been going on for 67 years already. Both parties have been shellong eversince.
     
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    Ask your brother who is serving in Kashmir like my family and he will confirm that unprovoked shelling at LOC is very common from both sides, specially during late night hours. Ocassionaly it escalates and someone gets killed, otherwise business as usual.
    Who is to blame, us or them, no one can tell.
     
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    anupamsurey Regular Member

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    the answer is as simple as it can get, Paki army giving cover fire to terrorists, Indian army retaliating, there is nothing like unprovoked or aimless, every act has its own reason. though it is well known that press is used to justify their standpoint. i want to know has any paki reporter visited the LOC and tried to gauze the situation yet, as it has been done in India.
     
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    the thing is pak army unlike indian army is drived more by mere sentiments. whenever pak army finds an opportunity to take advantage of the situation it takes with both hands like in this case. the bsf jawan was repairing the wall to stop infiltrations. he was mere defenseless so you guyz attacked him.
    but the thing is if indian forces dont retaliate the morale of the soldiers goes down. so they cant afford to not retaliate hard, hence the fight starts to escalate.
    ask your family member from the fauj who first provokes whom.
     
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    Indian warmongering media is a joke, so is the coverage of LOC:

    Extremist political leaders and media made Indian Defense Minister AK Anthony eat his words last year. Anthony read out a statement in parliament whose facts were provided by none other than the Indian military, in which it was alleged that certain militants were involved in the killing of five Indian soldiers on the Indian side of the LoC.

    But nationalist politicians from the opposition Bhartia Janata Party and media rejected that statement, claiming that the Indian soldiers were killed by the Pakistani army. They demanded that the defense minister either blame Pakistan’s army or resign, forcing him to issue another statement the following day, in which he held Pakistan responsible for the killings. Indian opposition parties demanded an end to all dialogue with Pakistan.

    It seems the irresponsible media could push both countries into a war.
     
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    Either way those militants were from pakistan as that happened near the border. And in such a militarized area it would be dubious to say that pakistan doesn't spot militants crossing into india from their side. If that is so then pakistan army is a joke.
     
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    "They won't let you sleep at night, for several nights in a row unprovoked low intensity shelling keeps you awake till dawn".
    These are words of my cousin who has been serving there for several years.
     
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    But your warmongring leaders tried to blame PA for this, hence the changing statement by Anthony.
     
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    BAT has both Pak army SSG and Mujahedeen with varying numbers. As this unique combination is unique to Pak army, the traditional definition of Army or terrorists do not apply. The non-state actor rhetoric. Therefore the confusion.

    But, why am I telling you, didn't your cousin tell you bedtime stories of the bravery of BAT teams?
     
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    BAT has both Pak army SSG and Mujahedeen with varying numbers. As this unique combination is unique to Pak army, the traditional definition of Army or terrorists do not apply. The non-state actor rhetoric. Therefore the confusion.

    But, why am I telling you, didn't your cousin tell you bedtime stories of the bravery of BAT teams?
     
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    India does not make out any difference between Pakistani Army and Islamic Jihadist Terrorists... Pakistani Army can not hide behind the so called Islamic Terrorists... whoever attacks India it will invite retaliatory measures...
     
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    I'm sorry what retaliatory action we took for 2008 mumbai attack so many innocents got killed :hair: our action was Aman ki tamasha:namaste:

    Still aquisition & installation of Radar chain in west coast is pending , Navy & Coastal guard FPV orders allocation of funds got cleared now

    In mean time many large ship landed up in mumbai coast after 2008 genocide without being noticed by NAVY & COAST GUARD
     
  18. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    You could ask the same thing about Hamas and IDF, respectively. In the latter case, Hamas seems to be able to generate world sympathy, Pak army not so much.
     
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  19. Neo

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    No, actually he talks a lot about fake encounter bravery tales by IA with Pathribal fake encounter being his favorite:

    Let me quote verbatim from the CBI charge-sheet, extracts of which were published in the Indian Express:

    "The Army Unit of 7 RR… was under tremendous psychological pressure to show some results…The then Col Ajay Saxena, the then Major B P Singh, Maj Sourabh Sharma, Subedar Idrees Khan and other personnel… hatched a criminal conspiracy to pick up some innocent persons and stage-manage an encounter to create an impression that the militants responsible for the Chhittisingh Pora killings had been neutralised."

    All accounts from the time and thereafter, including a blow-by-blow charge sheet submitted by the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), and DNA analyses, suggest the five men --two farmers, both named Jumma Khan, goatherds Bashir Ahmed Butt and Mohammad Yusuf Malik, and Zahoor Dalal, a cloth merchant - were innocent and were executed, their bodies mauled and in one case decapitated, and then burned to eliminate all vestiges of their identity.
     
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    My opinion was for the border areas, where the Pakistanis was hiding dead of solders as civilians... We are giving them back for their deeds...

    The retaliation can be done by different means... not necessarily going for direct actions when Pakistanis can be used to bleed it white by their own people... I do not claim to have insider information but there is massive involvement of intelligence agencies that have taken 50000 thousand Pakistani lives and 8000 solders and is going down day by day...

    Do you think Pakistan will be able to recover from the in discriminate bombing and killings on the frontier provinces.. TTP has gone into Afghanistan and will be back soon with greater destruction... The Pakistani Army is there for a long haul that is exactly what is required... go on bleading Pakistani Army and economy for the foreseeable future...

    Give 2 years to current government I am sure it will change for the good...

    The Congress government has all along been a security risk for the country... it has a history of neglecting the country's defense and letting it down...
     
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    Ah, seems that you don't love soccer.

    Otherwise TTP playing soccer with PA jawan's heads would have been your favorite story. :taunt:

    There are others too but, I don't want to copy the index for the book of children story for future Mujji.
     

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