Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by A.V., Mar 11, 2009.
50 soldiers death is still unacceptable by today's standards.
Most of them are due to avalanches and falling into crevices. A lesser number of soldiers die due to medical reason or enemy fire.
Ground sensors for avalanche prediction and hand held GPR for crevice ( just below surface) detection can be helpful, but former is held up in bureaucratic delays.
Why no mags in rifles....???????
why dont we drive home the advantage
if the pakis open up fire on indian posts in RSpura and other sectors where they have an advantage
why dont we set ablaze the siachin and give them hell where we have the advantage
They are already beaten up badly in Siachen. Their positions are weak, they are hampered by the weather and cost of staying. They have been mauled by a natural calamity not very long ago, where the loss of men and machinery was substantial.
It is the Pakistnis who made the first sweet noise on Siachen this time, speaks a lot about their status up in the Glacier.
If these Pakis werent there, Siachen can become one of the world's awesomest tourist, skiing site. Its really beautiful up there.
my point is assymetric response
now all along LOC & IB RSpura and mendhar and some 1-2 other sectors are such that, where we are at disadvantage
and Pakis are at advantage and they are good for infiltration of terrorists due to terrain
now the pakis open up fire where they are at advantage
in war -direct /indirect - it is always our enemy which chooses the time & location &amount of fire that they do
our forces are restricted to measured & calibarated response
what we should do is assymetric response
if our posts on RSpura, mendhar are fired upon or shelled, we should not only reply there but also open up in siachen where we have an advantage
make the costs for the enemy higher, make their posts untenable, shell the roads & routes and supply convoys they use to supply stock their posts for winter
make them loose material & men in these firings , make them deploy more men more materials
Hi-Tech Robots to Help in Surveillance in Harsh Areas like Siachen
The Army acquired its first mobile robot in 2011 - DRDO's Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV) 'Daksh', will equip the force to handle and clear improvised explosives devices and other hazardous objects. It can climb stairs and can be also used in extreme climatic conditions. The ROV which underwent extensive user trials in Kashmir prior to limited series production
NEW DELHI: Martyr Lance Naik Hanamanthappa lost his struggle with life after a miraculous survival for six days in an avalanche which resulted in death of nine other armed forces personnel.
Working in harsh environments like Siachen where temperatures drop to -50 degrees centigrade is never going to be easy. In such areas robotics is the future of surveillance and rescue operations.
Hi-Tech Robotics has developed Chemical Biological Radiological Nuclear ( CBRN) - an Unmanned Ground Vehicle (CBRN) in collaboration with Defence Research & design Organisation (DRDO).
The Hi-Tech Robotic Systemz has been co-developed by with VRDE, Ahmadnagar (DRDO lab). This robot can be used for saving lives of defense personnel in Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear warfare and variants of this robot can be used for video surveillance, UXO handling & combat / anti-terrorist operations, according to a statement. At high altitudes with harsh environments, the robot can do surveillance and can aid in rescue operations where landing is not possible.
S Radhakrishnan, OS & Director - Industry Interface and Technology Management, DRDO said, "Military technology is becoming complex and Robotics is going to play a big role in defense technology." Robotics is a multi-disciplinary field and a good understanding of mechanics, automation, electronics, image processing is a must.
Speaking at the sidelines of the event Anuj Kapuria, Director & CEO, The Hi-Tech Robotic Systemz (THRSL) said in a release, "DRDO has provided us an opportunity to develop technology which can strengthen our armed forces."
Pakistan is unable to dislodge Indian troops, militarily. it is waiting for full thoated open discussions and negatives with it in public forums to scare the troops away. Once discussions in the open forum begins, nobody knows where it leads to. During discussions nobody
has paid any attention to the strategic importance of that glacier. A price has to paid to be on top of the world and prevent Chniese- Pakistani link up.
By the way 130 Pakistanis died on the other sides of the slopes three years back. We sympathized with them. Nobody in India asked them not to return as their causality rate went so high. But there is a huge propaganda in Pakistan to persuade indian public opinion to abondoned the slopes because ten soldiers died. Trust me a lot more will be dead if you abondoned these heights.
The tragedy is unfortunate but I am sure there will be no changes in india's policy. Good time to strengthen our positions with reinforcements and firepower.
The army been active for so long in the region, why cant the government adopt some anti avalanche mechanisms, or equipments like transmitter along with the whatever gadgets if they are carrying.
According to wiki leaks report about Indian Missiles, Prithvi series will no longer be used to deliver Nukes but as a long range Artillery.
155 mm Bofors are also deployed at Siachen Base although the article only mention 130 mm
There are many newer missiles like prahaar that could be used in its place also placing pinaka and pinaka 2 can be an option. Smerch deal was done with LAC/Siachen in mind. Also attack helicopters can play a leading role
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In Siachen, a faster response system
A Sukhoi 30 MKi fighter aircraft of the Indian Air Force doing dry runs through Leh this week
The remains of what was possibly a Skyang, a wild horse, in Eastern Ladakh’s Chushul Valley
The Siachen Glacier as seen from the rear of the V5 after the supplies are paradropped.
Pictures by Sujan Dutta
Modern Winter Gear Provided To Soldiers At Siachen
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