Should West Bengal be partitioned between North and South Bengal?

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  1. ITBP

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    Because WB is so Kolkata based, North Bengal is neglected, North Bengal's Bhumiputra Raajbangshis are neglected, their culture and language every thing is in danger, WB Government apart from economically neglecting NB, failed to stop BD migrants from changing demography as well as Nepalese migrants.

    When separate Kamtapur would be best, but it is not possible because now Raajbangshis are minority basically in many areas of NB, so separate North Bengal will be best.

    Besides Andhra Pradesh all ready got divided on economic issue. So WB should not? NB's proud Tea industry and Tourism are now struggling mean while Biharis made local youth unemployed.

    Forget Raajbangshis, even Hindu Bengalis now are struggling.
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    There can be a valid reason of bifurcating Bengal.

    However, NB is too laid back in their approach to make the NB vibrant. The manner in which the tea industry to include tea gardens is lying dormant and 'sick' indicates that there is a total lethargic approach to keep projects viable. Teh fault lies with the Management as also the workers.

    Rajbonshis are the most laid back of them all.

    It is the Lutheran Church which is active with the Rajbonshi, which is giving some meaning to their lives by converting them rapidly. And along with that is injecting new ideas of singular identity in them.

    The Dooar politics is spearheaded by tribal converts.

    The Govt is not to be blamed for the culture decline of the Rajbonhsis, but the influence of the Church to make the Rajbonhsis into a modern contemporary society, as the Church has done all over the NE wherein the tribal ways have given way to the western ways.

    There is a sizeable Bihari population, especially in the Siliguri belt engaged in commerce. If they are making the local youth unemployed, it indicates how great is this laid back attitude is ingrained in the psyche of the locals. People employ for profits and not to uplift humanity.
     
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    Partition will not be the solution. All the problems mentioned can be addressed by the Govt and to some extent the North Bengalis themselves. And most importantly, they need to stop voting for TMC.
     
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    Lutheran Church is more active in Tea garden area's tribal workers, Hindu faith is very much deeply rooted among Raajbangshis, they cant have much success. But worrying reason is most are very poor.

    Christian missionary pigs may give some money etc, but will take our souls. I remember 1 American Missionary came and openly insulted Hindu Gods, he was beaten immediately by public.
     
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    Why sow the seeds of hostility? Although, Bengalis being Bengalis, I doubt that any hostility would be there even if there is a bifurcation.

    I am not an expert on the matters of NB, but would it be able to sustain economically itself? Although, truth be told, the amount of resources kolkata eats up of the WB - NB may be able to do better as due to proximity of Kolkata when SB is benefitting hugely, NB is losing.

    So, it may be given a thought. But only after a proper study, it should be done.
     
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    Who are Rajbanshis? Are they Khatriyas of some Kind?
     
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    No more partitions please.

    We already have a half dozen tiny states and three dozen regionalist groups here.

    The problem with WB is that it is either ruled by regressive idiots or by sadistic tyrants.

    Thanks to the Muslim appeasement of these people, the ever-increasing illegal Bangladeshi Muslim population makes it hell for the locals to vote someone based on development work.
     
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    Hi, are you from North Bengal ?
     
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    Rajbanshis comes under Scheduled Tribe, I think; or may be Scheduled Caste. So not of Khatriya origin.
     
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    If the division of Bengal benefits the people of North Bengal then it is a good plan. However judging from the statistics of the past I think that will hardly be the case. UP,Bihar and Madhya Pradesh were also divided. Yet the new states of Jharkhand,Chattisgarh and Uttarakhand have not done better than their parent states. Some have even done worse in certain areas. Of course I admit it is too early to judge their development. They may outperform their parent states later.

    Also another important hing that we have to consider is will the people of the new state get the same benefits that they enjoy here in Bengal. If we talk of educational facilities then WB has some of the best state govt educational institutes. If there is a split then people of North Bengal would have to wait till the GOI decides to build new educational institutes there. We already know that it will take ages for the new ones to come up. Due to this reasons I think a split is not a wise decision. After all except for economic problems there is no ethnic or cultural reasons for Bengal splitting up.
     
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    They are basically tribals who are animist and now follow Hinduism as also are being converted to Christianity.

    I have done three tenures in the Rajbonshi belt of North Bengal and have interacted with them.

    I believe they are SCs as per the Govt.

    They speak a language akin to Bengali, but not quite Bengali.

    Wikipedia can be trusted to a great extent when they added the original source of their commentary as they have done for Koch Rajbonshis

    Cooch Bihar official site
    Rajbongshi
    Ethnologue Report for Rajbanshi
    Kamatapur
    The Rajbansis: preliminary enquiry towards a study of a complex ethnic group of South-East Nepal and Bengal, Johan Berlie, Regmi Research Institute, Kathmandu, Nepal, 1982.
    Linguistic Terrorism: An Interruption into the Kamtapuri Language Movement
    "Koch". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). 1911.

    One need to merely click on the references and get onto the original source to authenticate.
     
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    As a neighbour of north bengal i don't think it will be productive.

    Any division of bengal state will stronger the gorkhaland cause.
     
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    Rather than dividing WB. UP should be the first state that needs to be divided.
     

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