Should India stop pretending?

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  1. genius

    genius Regular Member

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    A tiny country like Lanka can threaten to hang Indians ... Indians beg.
    Pakistan usually attacks and India usually begs for talks.
    Bangladesh can do whatever it wants in Bengal.
    Indian diplomats are treated like outcasts.
    Etc.

    Point is, nobody respects India. Every time India tries to assert itself, it is quickly put in its place. So should India stop pretending that it is an important nation?
     
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  3. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Take another view -


    Should all other countries around India do whatever India wishes for India to feel important - That situation will also not be happy !!
    What is required is that India as also her neighbours should respect each others sovereignty, systems, cultures , aspirations and work in mutual accommodation keeping their mutual interests in view.

    If the convicts were drug pedlars they deserve the punishment. The correct way is to take recourse to legal channels.

    The laws of the land must be respected and there should not be politics at the cost of each other. Given that environment India would be more happy and more advantages would accrue to Indians since India has seven neighbours to deal with.

    No one in India would want Tamilnadu to be a heaven for drug pedlars.
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Why I am getting a feeling that you are talking about our NW neighbor??

    Lankan lower court gave the verdict and the appeal is going to the higher court. The allegation is drug peddling.
     
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    Sweety,the point is, "emotions" have no constant place in country to country diplomacy. So lets set aside the 'emotion' and rage and look at the incident in its context.
    Rule of the land applies, for any people inside its borders from time immemmorial. Indians hang and punish other nationals when they behave in a conflicting way with out interests, we have done it and we have been doing this (Italian Marine case)
    As for other countries which you have mentioned, there could be a few incidents but India is dealing with it in a fact to fact manner.
    Indian diplomats are the most respected of the people.

    Point is everybody respects India. When India tries to assert itself, the world listens. Its one country in the world that only shouts 'tiger' when there is a real tiger with its teeth and claws out.
    There is no need for India to pretend. Our advancements are awesome, but we are humble. No matter how strong we are, India has a way of showing its maturity in a more peaceful and solid way than most countries in the world.
     
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    No one will respect a nation that does not assert itself. The process of assertion has started now. Additionally, a nation must be economically strong to be respected. UPA-2 destroyed India's growth engine with socialist populistic policies, and that is being reversed now.

    So, the Pakihead OP @genius need not gloat in glee, India will be a completely different place in 2020. It will be the 4th (or 3rd) largest economy, with growth spurting ahead and the poverty levels down to 15-20%. There will be at least 4 new Indian startups which would have made it big by then. You can also expect cities like Vijaywada, Coimbatore, Jaipur, etc. to reach the levels of Bangalore/Hyderabad, further spurring growth.

    On the contrary, the Pakihead @genius will cry in pain when his beloved Pukeistan falls further down in the dumps and becomes a pathetic wasteland (its already almost there). The fun thing is, even in 2020, when the world is a radically different place, the Pakis and Pakiheads like @genius will still keep clamouring and whining for Kashmir, while India races ahead.
     
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    jus Senior Member Senior Member

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    SLankans say,they suffered 30yr WAR(LTTE) thanks to India .....
    Pork!s usually complains India supporting BLA,TTP,MQM.......
    BD's say BSF shoots Pole vaulter like rats &call their govt is RAWami league :rofl:
    If u expect US treating only Ind diplomats are like that u r wrong,they are killing muslims like rats in their own country by using DRONES&Military


    Point is, nobody respects other country.Every country work for their self interest.India/ns pretends they are most peaceful and docile country but we are not.Time and again we displayed it and will do it in future also.Period :namaste:
     
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    Yeh kya hai ??

    :confused:

    You have to read the history of IPKF and war in Srilanka, do not try to assert the fake claims. India and Srilanka has a common destiny and both the nations will resolve their disputes.

    Aggression, Passion and strength are with the mard-e- momins.

    India suffered and is suffering a lot with the terror export from Pakistan. These guys are different a bunch of guys, have guts to wage war on India, since we are weak :namaste:

    Lot of BDians are living in India with valid Visas, India has no problem with that. The ones who are illegally jumping into India and are trying to do demographic change are the real problem and reason why BSF is upping the ante off late.
     
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  9. jus

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    Common India displayed her strength in 1971 when all mard-e-mommins+US&west+China vs India.These mard-e- momins thinks their Loud mouth and outburst in social media will give victory.Poor souls, pity on them :lol:
     
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    India's victory in 1971 is not a major one although India played a major role in creating a country. Fighting a force which was short in supply is not that difficult. Reason why India never cares for this event.

    Why Pity??

    Since they have no capability of realization of the facts ??

    Or is it that these guys hang on to some fake martial race theory which is nonsense??
     
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    xxxx xxxx Mod : :nono:

    Indira Gandhi supported LTTE and trained them in TN by RAW even IA failed to contain it,means RAW is most powerful than IA.:lol:

    Common Bodos&BSF kills them like rats,they are pole vaulters not rats :lol:

    Please note down,Pork! send some 20,000 jihadis to Kashmir to liberate we killed 80000 who are 60k :pound:
     
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    Yes, we lost a huge swath of land, in the western sector where the opponent had secure line of communication and logistics. Isn't it?

    Do you know that before 1971, there was a doctrine in Pakistan which stated, ' the defence of east lies in the west'. Which meant that the deterrence of loosing in west will keep away India from creating trouble in the east.

    Using that doctrine, Pakistan deliberately kept defences low in the east. So, while analysing 1971 war, you can't individually look at eastern theatre overlooking west.

    Now, tell me what were the advances that Pakistan achieved in western sector?
     
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    Bdesis cant achieve independence for 9999999999999 yrs without IA support.:lol:

    Defeating Pork!stan is not difficult issue but we didn't fought with only pork!s but also countries like muslim countries+USwest+China supported them logistically.

    So this is a great victory.Note:India itself in 1971 a booka nanga desh
     
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    @genius,

    Your thread title belies the idea that you are a genius.

    What is India pretending about?

    That it is an important nation?
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    Well, that is what is said of India by powers that be.

    India is not pretending about anything, but being India.

    It is your type of people who are harbouring fond delusions that India is the US.

    She isn't.
     
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    @genius

    Once Genius told me that he is an Indian genius, qualified under a tough competition to get a position in Bangladesh as a software engineer, a country similar to somalia, congo type LDC category nations :rofl:
     
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  16. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    You are assuming some thing which I have not said in my post. I have given a generalization.


    Did I said that West Pakistan made gains on India during 1971 ??
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is it :shocked:

    Kindly enlighten me, I have this feeling of superiority which make me think otherwise.


    Do not draw parallels between RAW and ISI, both are different. India even do not have a unified armed forces command leave about an all powerful intel agency which can challenge Govt.

    There is an international border between India and BD, smuggling, trafficking, terror etc .....etc.... happen through this border. Why are you assuming that all the dead are innocent??

    You support illegal migration and want to live in Sharia?? How interesting ??

    Wrong figures!!

    Kashmir valley population less than 4 million.

    You are accusing that India killed close to 3 % of population !!

    IA is not like PA who have no morals and raped Bengalis to do the demographic change. Neither India is like resource grabbing China who will do police action and change the demographics overnight if possible a Genocide.

    India stuck with the morals of not disturbing the Valley. And all these years these guys are jumping up and down like monkey infront of Hanuman on the international arena.
     
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    In 1971 Asia is a poor continent, India > China

    Japan and Korea are undergoing reforms.
     
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    From ur long essay i concluded

    IA have high moral values,it doesn't harm any one......
    RAW is also have high moral values,it doesn't harm any one......
    Ind govt. is also have high moral values,it doesn't harm any one.....

    they all Social welfare groups
    Good keep it up.... :pound:
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Great !!!

    That is a comparative study based on facts.

    atleast GoI have some set of values on which it stood all these years.

    your Conclusions are extreme in this regard !!
     
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    .............
     
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