Should India lease Yemen's Socotra island to make a naval base?

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Poll, Should India lease Yemen's Socotra Island?

  1. Yes, we should.

    58.8%
  2. No, we should not.

    41.2%
  1. Waffen SS

    Waffen SS New Member

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    Socotra is an island situated in Arabian sea. It is part of Republic Of Yemen and it is administrative part of Hadharamut Governorate, Yemen has many Governorates and it is one of them.

    Socotra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    An over view of this island.

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    Map of Socotra island.

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    Position of Yemen and Socotra island.

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    Arabian sea.

    So it is clear that if we lease this island then we can have several adavantage

    1) We can take a look in all over Arabian sea.

    2) we can have advantage in war against Piracy in Gulf Of Aden.

    3) In future in case of possible Indian Military intervention in West Asia Socotra can be used as base.

    4) We can have eye always about Pakistani Navy's activity.

    5) Our strength in Indian Ocean would be bolstered.

    So should we lease that island?

    Please comment and vote.
     
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    Yes definatly sure... Naval Air base would be best...
     
  5. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Is Yemen leasing the island?

    One could speculate if Yemen is leasing the island.

    Or else it is kiteflying and wishful thinking.
     
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    Do we have enougg assets to base and do they oblige but gd idea
     
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    We are buliding a blue water capability, we are not yet there and besides that region has the highest pirate attacks, that means our list of enemies will only increase.

    I am all for the base provided we have the political will and capability to deal with these threats and right now its non existent. Besides Yemen just wont lease us the base like that, we'll have to be their biggest partner.

    We have a long way to go before we have a base in foreign country.
     
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    India should not lease Socotra, but rather try buying it. That is, if it is available! Socotra and the tiny strip of Myanmar land (Arakan) connecting our North East India to the Bay of Bengal are two pieces of real estate that would do us a lot of good if it is in our possession.

    Ofcourse, we do have one more, our connection to Central Asia, but getting our hands on that is even more tougher than these 2, so some other time maybe!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    India has not been able to capitalise on Seychelles, Maldives, Mauratius or Sri Lanka when there was the opportunity to do so, therefore, it is not understood how come Yemen is to lease Socotra to India?

    Or have I missed the news report that Yemen is leasing the Island?

    In so far as Myanmar is concerned, we (Nehru) have gifted away the Coco Island to Myanmar and now it is a strategic threat!

    If one is kiteflying, then why stop at Socotra?

    Let us scout around the world and let our imagination run wild!
     
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    From wiki: Yemen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Bolded #1 says why Yemen might be willing to sell off Socotra. Bolded #2 suggests an appropriate timeline. Bold #3 is just to point out ways to make inroads!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There are many nations which fulfil the bolded parts, but they are not in the run to lease out.

    And there are many countries which are doing well and yet are leasing out, like the Seychelles, who are to have a Chinese Naval Base.

     
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    But sir if we say them we will sale them our defense technology such as Arjun, Akash, Nag, Tejas in low cost, and if we offer them we will help in space matters to send Yemeni satellites so that Yemen people can see their TV channels using their own satellite(As I know they had to relay on Foreign Satellites for this, Arabs use Arabsat mainly and AsiaSat) plus presence of Indian navy near Yemeni coast will allow them to reduce their defense budget on Navy so more money for development.:cool:

    I think our chances of getting permission is high, because India has a good image mainly because we believe in no-first attack policy and our intelligence agency RAW is not involved in assassination, bomb blast or Drug Trafficking like ISI and CIA.

    Yemen is poor country and Indian companies can invest there.

    Did we really gift away Coco island to Myanmar under Nehru? I cant believe it.:shocked: Is India's territory like a fruit that we snatch it from tree and offer it? :facepalm::facepalm:
     
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    I would say go for islands in the Straits of Hormuz, the Gulf of Oman and you will control the world's oil!

    It is a misconception that poor country are easy for the picking!

    Yemen is a country that is lawless and wild and no one can control them.

    It is now a hotbed of Al Quaida.

    Do you feel that the AQ will allow foreign interests to flourish?
     
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    Absolutely right.

    So you too agree that even though it sounds far-fetched currently, its still a possibility? Just speculating on the 'how' and 'why' of it Sir! :D

    Straits of Hormuz is way too hot to be handled, least of all India!


    I wouldn't put it as "easy picking", and India should not go for one either. How about India going for a "mutually beneficial deal" with Yemen? No, I still do not know what that mutually beneficially deal is, but something on the lines of money, security, infrastructure and trade access.

    See, now we are talking. You have already identified one possible gap that India could utlize. May be we can side with the anti-'Al Qaeda' faction and help them secure Yemen while concurrently trying to strike a "mutually beneficial deal" with them!
     
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    Anyway, sorry for being a wetblanket.

    Just go ahead.

    I was merely trying to see the realpolitik of the issue.

    A country that cannot take care of Pakistan killing Indian soldiers & civilians or preventing cavalier intrusions by China is hardly in any position to influence the outcome of the seaways that are important to its strategy.
     
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    those islands harbours unique flora in the world.any plans of placing a military base will be a threat to native ecology...

    they look like alien creatures,completely out of earth.

    imo its an irresponsible decision wrt to yemen and india

    friends pls go through this briefing

    Socotra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Idle dreams - when India ceded Kachatheevu, Coco Island and so many bits of land here we are expecting our govt to grow a pair to set up base by leasing foreign land, not gonna happen.
     
  18. tramp

    tramp Senior Member Senior Member

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    In recent times India has not been averse to looking at overseas military bases. For eg., Farkhor Air Base in Tajikistan.

    Farkhor Air Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    India also spent $70m on redeveloping Ayni air base (Gissar) close to Tajik capital Dushanbe.

     
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    tramp Senior Member Senior Member

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    Of course there will be stiff opposition from Pakistan, China and even US (perhaps on Saudi goading) to an Indian base near Yemen. India will have to exhibit the political will to overcome such opposition.
     
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    I voted "No". At least not now. India should focus in neutralizing the threats in the immediate neighborhood and we need all the assets we currently have for that purpose.
     
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    If India had the luxury of leasing a foreign territory for military purpose then she do not need to follow a path of non alignment, I guess.
     

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