Should India Join the Combined Task Force?

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Combined Task Force 150 - should india join?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. maybe

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  1. Bot

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    Should India Join the Combined Task force - Yes / No



     
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  3. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    I don't think joining any sort of military agreement is in favour of our position. You see, joining this sort of agreements makes us committed and bound to one single command which is either led by US or let by UN (US again). It is best for us if we can continue operating independently. Besides, we are doing pretty good without joining any alliance.
     
  4. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    More of these types of task force offers will come; because of western economic decline, more will be expected from emerging powers to further western intersts under different banners.
     
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    warriorextreme Senior Member Senior Member

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    India should better start making friends soon if she wants counter china
     
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    sandeepdg Senior Member Senior Member

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    India is better off without joining any task force, rather we can cooperate with them as and when they require. Russians are also operating alone and they have kicked some serious ass and so have we.
     
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    India should reject CTF-150 and instead become the sole ring master of Indian Ocean and use IOR for the same.
     
  8. JayATL

    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    Absolutely Join it! 100% ... it is a joint force against terrorism. Does India not seek intelligence information shared from these countries? Does India not belong to the UN where it has spearheaded deployments? Does India not participate with Interpol? Do the seas not pose a challenge and burden India with undue costs and commerce too if India go at it alone? Do you know what it costs to patrol it solo? Then pray why anybody in the right mind would not want to be a part of nations doing the righteous and collaborative thing?

    This is not a sovereignty issue, the waters the terrorist use don't belong to India only and they don't just magically appear on the Indian waters. these terrorist travel through many regions... how can you cover it all when you can't cover all infiltrators on the smaller land mass ?

    someday I will get a few of you to see the BIGGER PICTURE! when posting on a subject matter ... you can't think US vs Them in every situation. :)
     
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    India is hesitant to join any organisation or body that has pakistan in active way , same with SCO and same with this so i highly doubt they will join it
     
  10. JayATL

    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    well thats my point - that one can''t stifle themselves over silliness and not look to the big picture . Else drop out of:

    WTO
    IMF
    UN
    Asean trade organizations
    NON aligned countries
    Interpol
    Common Extradition treaties


    I can go on... but I guess one gets the picture. besides what best way to keep an eye on what Pakistan is doing. keep your enemies closer :D
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Agree, it is about time India stands up and takes control of the IOR and becomes lead on fighting Somali piracy.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    this task for is more of commercial value than military defence
     
  13. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    well thats my point - that one can''t stifle themselves over silliness and not look to the big picture . Else drop out of:



    None of these agencies let our military and defence forces be commanded under some other nation individually. On the other hand, CTF is led by a US command in the Persian Gulf and hence it is pointless to join them. Oh and just for the figures, NAM is founded by us; not US.

    There are multiple ways to keep an eye on Pakistan without joining any coalition. You think that the West and US in particular doesn't know what Pakistan is doing against us? It still remains silent because its interests are to keep silent and appease Pakistanis regardless of whether we bleed or not. Agreed that we and US share a lot in terms of political structure in general, but their bossy attitude is a put-off since we are independent in our policy making.

    We have done very well without any coalition support against terrorists in somali waters and IOR and so are independent forces like Russia. Cooperation and joint-operations are welcome but joining any coalition doesn't serve any purpose to us and undermines our independent voice.

    For the same reason why we don't join Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), apart from not wanting to be bullied by CCP domination and the fact that apart from Russia, we don't have anything strategic in that organization.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    There are some stages where military and commercial interests intersect each other. :)
     
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    But we are already right next to each other - how much closer do you want to get to Pakistan??
     
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    When Pakistan joined that group it already lost any legitimacy it had! How can you ask an theif to do Police work!! First of all Pakistan navy should be searched routinely for all sorts of nonsense, right from Terrorist to Drugs and Arms trafficking!.
     
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    Slow and steady wins the race. We have already established the IONS(Indian Ocean Naval Symposium) with IOR countries. We can further develop it as a major organization over the next 30 to 50 years.
     
  18. JayATL

    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    man, you are one paranoid cat. I have given up on makings sense of anything you post. You can make an issue of an American and Indian sitting a table and the American guy picking his fork up first to eat into some imperialistic gesture. These are non militray functions, known more as law enforcement ventures. Someone has to be head of command for logistics purposes and not because they are looking to take over anyone's sovereignty... What the hell does the SCO have to do with a law enforcement deal, heh.

    evidently you are clueless when it comes to UN deployments too and the one command structure there or for that matter guess who is in charge in Afghanistan when Indians are there?

    The pirate situation is worst than it was last year and you are again dead wrong is saying otherwise. Really I don't why I bother replying...
     
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  19. JayATL

    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    I was placating in that statement
     
  20. Ray

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    Just a carification.

    The UN Missions are under the UN Flag and not under any country's flag.

    Operations and Logistics are also under UN aegis and not under the coordination of any country.

    A UN Mission is not similar to that of a Alliance Mission.
     
  21. JayATL

    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    UN mission has one country as head of command at a given time, yeah?. It can be under a nice blue flag, but a member country always heads up the command. we can put a lipstick on a pig , but its still a pig. CBT 150 deal can be under a pink flag similarly but for logistics purposes , one member country will have to be in command. UN missions are a form of a law enforcement deal ( hence peace keeping mandate) and not really militray missions.

    The bane of my contention is ( with Tshering22) , how the hell is someone being in command for logistics purposes on a law enforcement mandate, turn into a threat for sovereignty... false pride in my opinion.
     
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