Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberating?

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Poll, Should India have annexed East Pakistan in 1971?

  1. Yes, we should have annexed it and merge it with West Bengal

    5.9%
  2. Yes, we should annexed it as another state, not by uniting with West Bengal.

    11.8%
  3. No, we should not have annexed it, and what we did was right.

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  1. Waffen SS

    Waffen SS New Member

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    Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberating? I personally think 1971 war when it was a Indian Military victory but a political defeat.

    The reasons are

    1) As we see today before every Bangladesh election we get scared about who will come to power in Bangladesh Government pro-India Awami League or anti-India BNP, we always need to have a sharp eye about activities of Muslim Radical parties in Bangladesh.:sad:

    2) Bangladesh despite our contribution in their Liberation war, never fully help India, Once BNP led Bangladesh funded separatist factions in NE. India such as ULFA, KLO for example.Smuggling of fake Indian currency is very rampant in Indo-Bangladesh border with help of Pakistani intelligence ISI in order to destabilize Indian economy. Bangladesh is opposed to strict BSF patrol which can stop this illegal activities. and in many time we saw in various bomb, terrorists using Bangladesh as a base and in most cases Bangladesh took no action.:mad::truestory:

    3)They have a secret plan of "Greater Bangladesh" by sending Millions of illegal immigrants to India in order to change population's Hindu majority situation using German Lebensraum theory.:scared2::shocked:

    Greater Bangladesh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    4) India is always concerned about growing Chinese and Pakistani influence in Bangladesh as well as ISI activities. Bangladesh like Myanmar is now a cold war ground between India and China to increase sphere of influence, the only difference is Myanmar is not Muslim country but Bangladesh is, that's why they are overwhelmingly anti-India.:tsk::scared1:

    5) We thought by liberating it from Pakistani control we would have an ally state in Eastern Border, but Bangladesh is not a trustable ally, always blackmailing India that if we dont listen to them they will go to China or US.

    If we annexed East Pakistan in 1971 then it would not be an act of imperialism because we all know before 1947 there were no Pakistan or Bangladesh, so nothing wrong in reuniting a divided country. If India had captured East Pakistan in 1971 by making it another province of India or merging with West Bengal, then we would face none of the problems mentioned above, more ever the goal to reunite India would advance one step more.

    If we had annexed it then we would have that area of Bangladesh which is extremely fertile, it would be boost to India's agriculture production and agriculture based small industries such as Jute Industry.

    So please comment and vote. @Ray
     
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  3. Free Karma

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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Invisible poll is invisible!!

    I really thought they'd be a little thankful, but no lol, But yeah seeing all these problems that are coming up, it's possible that annexing them might have been nice. Plus the land is also extremely fertile, greater control over bay of bengal, wouldve been quite desirable. Wonder why Indira Gandhi didnt think of it, seeing how she was the ballsiest PM we had (ironically), there mustve have been something that stopped her from doing so.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Why do people keep bringing up these stupid ass posts about India losing Pakistan & Bangladesh.

    The best thing that could happen to India was the partition of India.....so that most of the Muslims are gone.
    Can anyone imagine what a freaking mess India would be if it had 400 million Muslims !!

    Thank god.....for The fact that Pak and Bangladesh took away more than 3/4 of the Muslims in India.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    No, for God's sake. They are ungrateful scum as it is, just imagine what out fate would have been with them as part of our country! Do we really want those poverty-stricken masses?

    @Free Karma : Indira Gandhi did not do it precisely because she did not want the headache. We are complaining about illegal immigration now, if we had annexed them it would have been all legal. Masses of poor uneducated people with growing population. And Muslim population would have been close to 25% now in India. The whole region would have become a snakepit of Islamism and Sharia.

    Thank God we don't have Bangladesh as part of India. Just build fences, strong fences, and keep them and their litter confined to their own land.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Even though I voted for the third option, I do not completely agree with it. We should not have annexed Bangladesh either, hell, the whole operation could've been jeopardized if the Bengali freedom fighters would have begun to see the Indians as an invading force rather than allies in 1971. They might've even made nice with the Pakis for a while.

    I do think that we did not follow the operation up as well we should have, however. The Paki army supporters were allowed to establish a significant position in the new country and in 42 years since independence they have poisoned the progressive Bengali culture with their vitriolic Pakistaniat and Islamofascism.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    What kind of BS thread is this!!!!Dont tell me you guys actually wanted Indian to ANNEX Bangladesh!
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    The Bengalis of East Pakistan spent a decade crying that they couldn't live in a nation who are not mainly Muslims and then got themselves a country of their own. Then they spent a few more years crying that they couldn't live in a nation who are not mainly Bengalis and then they got themselves a country of their own. They wanted a nation exclusively for those who are Muslims and Bengalis and they have got it. As if their narrow mindedness isn't revolting enough, we are discussing whether it would have been a good idea if they were part of the Indian Union! :rolleyes:
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    The best possible solution would have been letting them stay with pakistan, and that would have bogged down pakistan at all fronts. India would have been relatively peaceful even with detrimental secularism and secular governments led by Gandhi/Nehru/Vadras, Laloos Mulayams, Mamtas et al.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    India should have purchased Chittagong to give sea access to north-east. We could have got a cheap deal back then.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Yes. Some portion of Bangladesh integrating Chittagong Port with North-Eastern parts of India.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    We still have the option to barter territory with BD. The question of enclaves shud be done in such a manner that while we give them our territory we shud ask them for equal territory in an area of our interest. The present exchange of enclaves agreement does not address those problems infact we are giving away 48 sq km more of our territory to BD. Let us revise it and tell them, you keep them but give us chittagaon.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Chittagong, is the most important port and the commercial capital of Bangladesh. Why would they barter it with us for a few enclaves!?

    It would be a lot easier to get a strip of land through Rakhine than through Bangladesh, just saying.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    No what we did was right but we should demand then to have a millitary base inside their country & right to use ports
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    don't know about bangladesh but we should have annexed Sri Lanka :lol:
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Annexation of East Bengal would have provided India easy geographical access to SE Asia. It would have also removed the perennial worry of China chopping off India's "chicken neck" and separating the North East from the rest of the country.

    Lastly, back in 1971, the East Bengalis weren't radicalized as much as they are today-they had just fought a nationalist war on the basis of ethnicity and language. They wouldn't have been able to effectively resist Indian annexation. At the very least East Bengal should have been turned into a protectorate like Bhutan.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Won't comment on whether we should have or shouldn't have.

    But we most certainly should have widened the Chicken's neck. If not for strategic reasons, then jut to provide a flat terrain link to the North East.
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    Why buy more trouble? We have our hands full with WB and N-E states as it is.....
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    all the above have mentioned some plausible options
    i certainly wouldn't want BD's millions on my hands
    but a combination of some of the above options suggested
    would certainly have make good sense

    why is it goi - didnt have such capability to think ? .....
    thinks only in stark black or white terms ... no intermediate grey options ?
    lack of lateral thinking ?
    no long-term thiniking , just short-term
    and immediate gains

    even a junior military strategist, or part time like on this forum
    would have wanted to thicken the chicken's neck area
    and also get a sea connection with the north-eastern states via eastern india

    but goi wasn't able to think of that ?
    military was unable to suggest to goi ?

    there's no CONTINUITY in thought in our successive goi's
    each is only thinking of the next election
    not the long term good of the nation

    unlike china's system
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    It''s not possible


    i have heard that Indian Hindu bengalis dont like Muslim Bengalis, other wise india could have annexed bengladesh:cool2::cool2:

    BTW bangladesh is still indian state with proxy govt:p:p

    @ Ray sir can give more input:p:p
     
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    Re: Should India have annexed East Bengal in 1971 instead of liberatin

    I have no problem with them almost, Bengali Muslims are more open minded, Urdu speaking Muslims cause problems. Not Bengali Muslims. Few years ago there was protestation regarding bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasrin, Government needed to deploy army, Urdu speaking Muslims caused this, not Bengali Muslims.

    In my dream I expect India to be united with Pakistan and Bangladesh again like we were before 1947.

    @roma democrazy is of the idiots, by the idiots and for the idiots.

    Our leaders lack common sense apart from how to take bribe. They know voters as people, election center as earth and support during election as love. No matter which party we elect they are all basically same. Every one listens to every stupid opinion.

    If all parties are just different side of same coin then why do we vote?

    Liberty is good, but when people cant utilize it perfectly then that liberty will cause more damage than progress.
     
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