Should Anna Hazare form his political party?

Discussion in 'Politics & Society' started by A.V., Oct 13, 2011.

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Should Team Anna form a political party & fight elections?

Poll closed Aug 16, 2012.
  1. 1. Yes, they should form a political party and fight elections.

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    33.3%
  2. 2. Yes, they should form a political party but Anna Hazare shouldn't fight elections.

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    6.7%
  3. 3. No, they shouldn't form a political party and refrain from politics.

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  4. 4. They should ask support from opposition parties.

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  5. 5. They should secretely get support of opposition parties.

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  6. 6. I have no idea of what they should do!

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  1. A.V.

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    i hope this is not a repost
     
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  3. Dovah

    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

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    Yeah right, along with Prashant Bhushan, Arundhati Roy and the kind, lately I've become disenchanted with the Anna movement...
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Add a poll to this as well.

    He should form a party and fight elections.
    And i say this because i am not a fan of Anna and his movement.
     
  5. Galaxy

    Galaxy Elite Member Elite Member

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    No.

    Politics will not be easy game for Anna Hazare.

    As he said many times, One don't need to be politician to help and raise the voice for our society.

    He won't come in Politician. He neither has any interest nor it will work for him. He knows all these very well.
     
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    If someone wants to lose deposit in every constituency.

    Anti corruption activists should focus on Lokpak and use the methods they have successfully used till now instead of entering electoral poitics.
     
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    SPIEZ Senior Member Senior Member

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    AV what kind of a thread is this ?

    For so long we have been wondering who would fight against BABU-CORPORATE-GOVT corruption ? When a 70-something man stands up against all this we ask if we should start a political party?

    Although I agree some members of his Lokpall comitee are questionable, even the Lokpall to an extant itself is questionable, let this man be.

    We must understand that he is fighting for us, whether he is RSS or Alquaida, he is fighting for the comman man
     
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  8. Galaxy

    Galaxy Elite Member Elite Member

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    Indian Politics is based on Caste, Religion, Region and ideology.

    Corruption, Development and social welfare are extremely important and every Indian wants better tomorrow. But unfortunately Elections are not won on these criteria.

    Why Chandranaidu Babu lost 2 consecutive election in Andhra after making A.P. as IT hub and modern state ?
    Why every time Mayawati wins 30%-60% seats in in U.P. when she is most corrupt politician ?
    Why lalu Yadav won 3 consecutive election till 2004 when he was one of the most corrupt politician ?

    Everyone is not Modi or Nitish, Can Anna become Modi or Nitish ? NO. Why ?

    Both understand politics. Nitish and Modi sidelined all important state leaders. They played the game very well. Also, Cast politics is in favour too, IF development doesn't work. They know how to work in systematic way. Anna wants to do many things, But it's not possible due to rigid system. There are many things which is not good for society, Still government do because public wants and Anna will fail on this front.

    Everyone can't become great Socialist like Anna hazare in same way everyone can't become mass leaders like Modi or Nitish or Mayawati. I support him for all his effort as socialist but not as politician.
     
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  9. thakur_ritesh

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    never been too much of a fan of socialists anyway, so his forming a political party or not would never interest me.

    my support to team anna has always been issue based, their fight against corruption being one where i support them.

    his take on economy, business and the business community never inspires me, which is what concerns me the most.

    i'll put it this way, he gets the LP bill passed and a strict implementation, he has my support, he stands up in elections with the kind of economic view he has, would never ever cast a vote for them, in that scenario we are still better of with MMS as the PM with a curse like NAC around.
     
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    The fight of Anna is based on single issue and that is corruption. On the other hand, Politics deals with many aspects of development, vote banks, caste factor, money power etc. I think Anna and team should stick to these cause and be away from Politics. The moment they join the politics, the issue on which they are fighting will fizzle out.
     
  11. Ray

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    The fact that Anna's Movement was not affiliated to any political party is what gave the Movement the vim.

    That is how it should be to fight causes that may plague the country.

    There is no doubt that the UPA is not keen to pass the Lokpal Bill and that is why the Law Minister has parroted Rahul Gandhi to make the Lokpal a Constitutional authority.

    For this an amendment will be required in the Constitution.

    The Procedure to amend the Constitution is as follows:

    Could it be that the Anna people realising how the Bill can finally get scuttled, is supporting other than Congress, so as to drive the nail further in the coffin 'to prove that the country is fed up with corruption' and that the country wanted the Bill passed within a specific timeframe as was conveyed by the PM to the Anna people?

    It maybe added that even if the Bill is passed and the Lok Pal becomes a statutory office, there is no embargo to continue the process to make it a Constitutional Office.

    There is no difference between a Statutory Office and a Constitutional Office except that to remove a person holding a Constitutional Office, one requires the approval of a two third majority of the Parliament.

    Anna should steer clear of issues that do not affect seriously the lives of the people and more so, politics.
     
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    Yes,

    Anna Hazare should form a political party.

    He should form a political party with like minded people, assign people to different constituencies all over the country, campaign and seek the people's mandate and then make whatsoever changes to the Constitution he pleases through Constitutional Amendment Bills, pass a LokPal Bill with contents and clauses that satisfy him and get on with his life. The idea of the people electing their representatives is sacred and it should remain so.
     
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    Yes he should start one so that he ll know the REAL support base of him.
     
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    Whilst I agree with Anna's initial intentions of ending corruption, how I view him and his movement as a political party is a separate matter entirely - hence why these two fundamentals should stay separated. However, will either congress or BJP give Anna any heed, will they show any respect to his movmement and his ideals (given that he is essentially taking money out of most of the politicians pockets) unless they necessarily feel a fear of losing votes to him?

    That said, a political party ending corruption sounds very attractive indeed, even if we differ on other key issues!
     
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    I would suggest you to see this interview of Arvind Kejriwal of Anna Team as to why they don't want to form a party or participate in elections. I think its one of the more eloquent explanations I have heard.

    Start watching from 26:00 min onwards.

     
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    Negative, raising a political party and doing politics is a very difficult task which team Anna can not do well. They always get betrayed by government and they still were lacking in any master plan. Their strategy were changing day-by-day based on Congress's response. If they were so good in strategy then they must have some idea about possible coming situations in Anna's fast and they must be prepared for it but they were not good at this point.

    Another fact is that public is not supporting any politician, in eyes of public each politician is a criminal and scammed and if Anna become a politician then he may risk to lose his all respect and possibly public support in future. Also Congress is not a easy party to be defeated when they already corrupt, shameless, criminal so they'll use all legal-illegal option to win election which team Anna can not do.
     
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    Should Team Anna form a political party and fight Elections?

    Guys ! I have seen debates in news channels on this topic but I am not convinced with them. The question is :-

    Should Team Anna form a political party and fight Elections? or it should fight against common causes as they are already doing ?

    I am adding a poll option for it.

    Edit: Mods may add or remove poll options if suggested by members or as they think.
     
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  18. The Messiah

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    Re: Should Team Anna form a political party and fight Elections?

    Yes they should.

    I will vote for anna if he stands in election but will not support him if he doesn't because that would subvert democracy.
     
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    Re: Should Team Anna form a political party and fight Elections?

    I would not be surprised if they get messed up as other political parties. But it would be a relief for some time atleast, so a good way to go ahead.
     
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    Re: Should Team Anna form a political party and fight Elections?

    No...they will only split the anti-congress vote.
     
  21. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Re: Should Team Anna form a political party and fight Elections?

    Can they do the hunger strikes like now after being elected in election if fought?
     

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