Short-range nukes show Pak targeting Indian forces: Expert

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  1. Parthy

    Parthy Air Warrior Senior Member

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    Pakistan's recent testing of NASR or Hatf-9 short range missile, coupled with its rapidly growing stockpile of low-intensity nuclear weapons, suggests that it is actually preparing to cross the nuclear threshold in case of a conflict with India.

    One of world's most authoritative voices on Pakistan's nuclear strength and American nuclear expert Hans Kristensen told TOI that a nuclear-tipped NASR seemed more like a weapon intended for use against Indian forces advancing into Pakistani territory.

    "While that wouldn't threaten Indian survival in itself, it would of course mean crossing the nuclear threshold early in a conflict, which is one of the particular concerns of a short-range nuclear weapon,'' said Kristensen, who is also Federation of American Scientists' Nuclear Information Project director.

    While the 60-km short range of the nuclear capable missile doesn't threaten the security of any major Indian city, it certainly makes the Indian army and security forces vulnerable in case India does try to implement its much talked about Cold Start Doctrine, which entails making deep and precise incursions into Pakistani territory in the event of another Mumbai-like attack. Pakistan clearly seems to be raising the game considering that India will indeed be under pressure to destroy terror camps in Pakistan in the event of another state sponsored terror attack on India.

    "A NASR would have to drive all the way up to the Indian border to be able to reach important targets in India. Amritsar would be one candidate, as would several smaller cities along the border. But that would also expose the missile to counter attack,'' Kristensen said as he emphasized that with its range of only 60 kilometres, the multi-tube NASR system is not intended to retaliate against Indian cities but be used first against advancing Indian Army in a battlefield scenario.

    Kristensen had earlier described Pakistan's production of Hatf-9 as a worrisome development for South Asia and for efforts to prevent nuclear weapons from being used. He said it was time for Pakistan to explain how many nuclear weapons, of what kind, and for what purpose are needed for its minimum deterrent. Pakistan announced earlier that NASR "carries nuclear warheads of appropriate yield with high accuracy, shoot-and-scoot attributes" and that it was developed as a quick response system to add deterrence value to Pakistan's nuclear weapons.

    According to Kristensen though, the talk about Pakistan surpassing France in terms of the strength of its nuclear arsenal is "a decade or two ahead''. "Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is not equal to the number of warheads that could potentially be produced by all the highly-enriched uranium and plutonium Pakistan might have produced. The size also depends on other factors such as the number of delivery vehicles and other limitations,'' he said.



    Short-range nukes show Pak targeting Indian forces: Expert - The Times of India
     
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  3. Parthy

    Parthy Air Warrior Senior Member

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    Looks like they want to safe-guard themselves before planning for any further terrorists attacks on India.. Any such moves by Pakistan will be their last decisive action and after to that there will not be any country named "Pakistan".
     
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    plugwater Elite Member Elite Member

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    Now i know why India is interested in Iron Dome.
     
  5. chex3009

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    I think this is a bluff played by the Pakistani Army. They don't have the capability to develop a miniaturized version of nuclear bomb to fit in such a shell of diameter of 12 inches.

    Its a pure bluff being played just to keep India in check, and we are giving into their bluff and our Def Min A.K. Antony following the suit to say on record that India will have to increase its production of such weapons if Pakistan is resorting to such ventures.
     
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    Anyone who think nukes can win them wars if foolish. Nukes are the harbinger of destruction.
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    I dont understand this is first missile/rocket test, Pak claims that they will use nukes, with this so called missile, if that be the case and it is first test flight, i dont think PA would be so stupid to launch nukes from this alleged missile, as their is every likely possibility that it will not even reach its desired range of 60Km and end up nuking its own forces.

    Pak should test and re test its missile number of times when they get sufficient confidence about its new missile/rocket only then they can use it for nukes. IMHO that is some years away.

    last but not least, why use an untested rocket when Pakistan can use its F-16 thereby dropping nukes with its combat radius of 550 km.
     
  8. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    A short range rocket carrying a few grams of plutonium is a stupid idea because it will invite a retalition of 100's of kilotons. I am starting to think Pakistan may not have much of a nuclear program after reading this.
     
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    true LF i must also add not much sense in them, if they want to nuke at distance of 60km that too inside their own land, what if winds are blowing to the direction of Afghanistan, nuclear clouds will be all over pakistan.
     
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    we need more pns Mehran type operation. we need to destroy them before they fly.......time to send papus again
     
  11. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Gents, we already discussed this..

    Besides, i cant forget how comical the discussion was..
     
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    This is proving to be good for us, b'cos we can get new technologies and missiles in our arsenal. Now that the international community has come to know the truth about the evil deeds of pakistan, it would easier for INDIA to use advanced technologies. One way or the other they are doing good for INDIA.
     
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    Arunpillai Regular Member

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    Nasr is defntly a threat to us. So it seems they hav a deterrent to cold start.. India will find hard to retaliate with nuclear weapons if pakistan uses Nasr against indian army inside pakistan.. Not only could we not use nuclear missiles also we lose the cold start initiative and objectives.. Only option seems to be cold start operation with limited first strike nuclear missiles taking out their military and nuclear installations.. Only scenario which can predict victory for us.
     
  14. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Before any Invasion one must disable enemy air-power in the given sector, besides air-power what is the range of Nasr ? LOL!

    Yes, Its defiantly danger to all of us specially the nuclear fall out, Even if it blew up in their own terrortary.. :D
     
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    One thing is that Pakis don't have nukes that they can fire with Nasr. It's all Paki bluff against Indian Cold Start doctrine.
    Rest all is moh maya only
     
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    Pakistan may be developing short range missiles to nuke us but they don't have such technology to miniaturize a nuclear weapon which can fit into a small range missile. Even China has not get perfection on this technology so there are very least chances for Pakistan to develop such weapons to load on missiles hence nuke threat is still last option.
     
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    EMP is the way forward.... believe it or not...cuz PoW are more amusing to torture then burying enemy bodies
     

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