SHOCKING: Indian children cannot do basic math or read a sentence

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  1. CrYsIs

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    According to Annual Status of Education Report (ASER),a sample test was conducted to test the mathematical and comprehension skills of average school going child in rural India.

    THE QUESTIONNAIRE :-

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    Here are the results :-

    ENGLISH

    -->only 40 percent of third graders could read a first-grade-level paragraph

    --> more than one-third couldn't even read words.

    -->Of fifth graders surveyed, fewer than half could read a second-grade-level story

    --> 5 percent couldn't even recognize letters.

    MATHS

    -->30 percent of third graders tested recognized two-digit numbers.

    --> Only one-quarter of fifth graders could do the three digit by one digit division problems — a skill normally taught in third or fourth grade.

    The ASER also shows that learning levels are dropping — results for 2013 are the worst yet.

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.co...ldren-left-behind/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
     
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    Well balanced article. Let's hope this research paper has reached smriti Irani.
     
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    Peter Senior Member Senior Member

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    In Bengal we all know how the SSC examinations are rigged by political parties. Even complete no gooders end up becoming teachers. As a result students become the worst victims of poor teaching.
     
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    Same is happening all over India....


    Lol! I heard that a few months ago the Bihar government sacked over 1000 teachers for faking their degree with some report even suggesting that upto 20,000 teachers recruited had forged their certificates..


    That pretty much explains the following :-

     
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    Meanwhile in UP



    In 2009 Programme for International Student Assessment test,India scored the 2nd last rank.Such was the scale of humiliation that the India has withdrawn from international standardized testing.

    This is the unfortunate reality of India and not the 12%NASA and 36% IBM hoax...
     
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    What is the literacy rate for the parents of these children?
     
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    Illiterate.
     
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    You can't blame Irani. This rot has been brought by UPA and specially Kapil Sibbal. There just is no sanctity of examinations, as a child just cannot be detained till 11 class. By that time most of 10th pass are illiterates. Next, a teacher just cannot even scold a child, what to talk of punishment.

    School education has to be overhauled on 100% vbasis and proper policies to promote education are needed.
     
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    i agree with your post but this only happens in govt run institutions and some aided schools but majority of the Indian kids attend private schools with good standards
     
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    Exclusive Schools

    In addition to the above, there are a relatively small number of schools that follow foreign curricula such as the so-called Senior Cambridge, though this was largely superseded by the ICSE stream elsewhere. Some of these schools also offer the students the opportunity to sit for the ICSE examinations. These are usually very expensive residential schools where some of the Indians working abroad send their children. They normally have fabulous infrastructure, low student-teacher ratio and very few students. Many of them have teachers from abroad. There are also other exclusive schools such as the Doon School in Dehradun that take in a small number of students and charge exorbitant fees.

    Apart from all of these, there are a handful of schools around the country, such as the Rishi Valley school in Andhra Pradesh, that try to break away from the normal education system that promotes rote learning and implement innovative systems such as the Montessori method. Most such schools are expensive, have high teacher-student ratios and provide a learning environment in which each child can learn at his/her own pace. It would be interesting and instructive to do a study on what impact the kind of school has had on the life of their alumni.

    State Schools

    Each state in the country has its own Department of Education that runs its own school system with its own textbooks and evaluation system. As mentioned earlier, the curriculum, pedagogy and evaluation method are largely decided by the SCERT in the state, following the national guidelines prescribed by the NCERT.

    Each state has three kinds of schools that follow the state curriculum. The government runs its own schools in land and buildings owned by the government and paying the staff from its own resources. These are generally known as government schools. The fees are quite low in such schools. Then there are privately owned schools with their own land and buildings. Here the fees are high and the teachers are paid by the management. Such schools mostly cater to the urban middle class families. The third kind consists of schools that are provided grant-in-aid by the government, though the school was started by a private agency in their own land and buildings. The grant-in-aid is meant to help reduce the fees and make it possible for poor families to send their children. In some states like Kerala, these schools are very similar to government schools since the teachers are paid by the government and the fees are the same as in government schools.
     
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    The rot existed from the beginning and it is not a recent thing.

    Indian education system emphasizes rot memorization over learning the concept and in classrooms creativity is totally discouraged.Further, Indian schools are more like center for child abuse than a center of learning.Often teachers resort to worst kind of physical violence for even committing a simple mistake.This not only mentally and emotionally disturbs children but robs them of their childhood.

    Further Indian education system is such that it only helps an elite class of people with resources and not the dispossessed and have not's.

    No doubt so many drop out of school and consequently just 15% of Indian school going children go for graduation.
     
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    I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

    Corporal punishment is required. Torture is to be avoided absolutely. There is a fine line that separates the two.

    I have known young kids who would toss new born puppies under the wheels of a speeding truck, just for fun. I have also known one kid personally, who poked another kid in the eye with the sharp needle of a compass.

    You might think kids are innocent little tots. They are not. They can be very vicious.

    Education is more than learning the subjects. It is also learning to conduct oneself in public life. When children fail to do so and go berserk, they need to be caned, to straighten them up.
     
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    On a practical level this can happen only if the kids that were surveyed are the first generation in their family to go to school. As and when more and more generations of parents become educated these negative numbers can come down.
     
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    In that case, even their next generation would be first generation.

    Please realise that this problem is NOT confined to those "first generation" kids. It is across the board, and even in ellite schools. In fact, more ellite the more rotten they are. Come on, "children" of such elites are interested in "liberating" themselves. Liberation for them is drugs, alcohol and SEX. A few few years I saw a school girl in uniform asking a chemist for an ipill. With such trash, where is space for education?

    It is a fashion to condemn our "rote" system. But in present times of stiff competition, there is no other alternative.

    Do you know that teachers have instructions NEVER, never give a ZERO for a test paper? In new system it is TORTURE.

    There is lopsided emphasis on childrens' right and ZERO on their duties and obligations.
     
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    No, any form of corporal punishment is a form of Child abuse.In an environment like that in India,it will simply harm a child's mental growth.Your average Indian child is not an overfed and papered american kid

    An average Indian child suffers from nutrition deficiency,poverty,destitution,physical abuse at the hands of parents and relatives.So any form of corporal punishment at school would simply demotivate him from studying and would only force him to drop out.
     
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    Mate, if you think the private schools are any better....then you are living in a fools paradise..

    Private schools are slightly better and not overly better and infact incase of higher education the situation is quite the opposite,where govt colleges are much better than the private ones.


    I have studied engineering in a private engineering college and to this day I regret studying in that college.By the time i passed i had a degree but no knowledge about my subjects.I learned more in 1 year of GATE and IES preparation than in 4 years of engineering.
     
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    Usually the parents are very poor and illiterate. One cannot blame them. However all parents of India want to educate their children.
     
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    Corporal punishment is not a solution. Nobody asked me to study. I did it myself. Similarly forcing young pupils to study and become a good boy/girl will never work. After that boy/girl comes of age he will tend to have a rebellious attitude and disobey his elders.


    The problem of our education system is that the teachers in secondary and primary schools are below average. In India the bright students hardly go into the teaching profession. Majority of the bright students become engineers,doctors or research scientists in foreign countries. The people who are left behind are those who take up teaching. This is the bitter pill we have to swallow. Till the GOI increases the salaries of teachers and encourages them we will see no change. Also before the teachers are inducted they should be given some training like a one year course on dealing with students and making them understand the basics.
     
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    Frankly speaking, if third graders from Govt. Primary schools are exclusively taken as sample, the result no doubt is so dismal. However, I doubt all the govt. schools are like this or even most - upward from 5 th standard do clean up their act. Also, it may be a factor that a large percentage of drop outs drops out by 5th standard.

    However, I do believe that the Act of Right to Education, is destructive.
     
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    No Sir, majority of Indian students attend govt schools. Only the kids of parents in cities go to private schools. Even some people living in cities send their wards to govt schools. Also not all govt schools are bad. A few of them are decent even though majority of these schools lack proper facilities. For eg in Kolkata majority of the parents would love to send their wards to La Martiniere,Don Bosco,South Point rather than the govt school. However in villages like Nadia some parents only associate schools with the local govt high school.
     
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