Let me correct your first sentence. USA saved Europe from the monster that was Hitler.True story.
"Winston Churchill, the hallowed British War prime minister who saved Europe from a monster like Hitler”
Depends upon whom you ask. I would say the USSR contributed the most. USA did contribute, but its contribution is less than that of USSR.Let me correct your first sentence. USA saved Europe from the monster that was Hitler.
I would say indian contribution was greater than ussr for the simple fact that Indians won in both fronts for mother England in world war 2 ( and many other wars including ww1)Depends upon whom you ask. I would say the USSR contributed the most. USA did contribute, but its contribution is less than that of USSR.
You made a valid point. It is not only the battles, but also the fact that India sustained the war effort in materiel and supplies.I would say indian contribution was greater than ussr for the simple fact that Indians won in both fronts for mother Britain in world war 2 ( and many other wars including ww1)
75 percent of the British navy was decimated by German air strikes . British india army In ww2 is the largest "volunteer army" in history. Interesting new term for colonial army. British were humiliated by the Germans hiding in the tunnels in fear of their lives. Reinforcements and support from their indian colony was their saving grace. There was a point when many parts of London was destroyed and USA had not officially entered the war. A real dark and desperate period in British history.You made a valid point. It is not only the battles, but also the fact that India sustained the war effort in materiel and supplies.
I can't recall the name but I saw it in one of the documentaries on WW2. Indian soldiers gained a lot of self-confidence watching their white masters hide in fear, while they fought gallantly. All the racial superiority BS was put to rest during this war, at least for the soldiers.75 percent of the British navy was decimated by German air strikes . British india army In ww2 is the largest "volunteer army" in history. Interesting new term for colonial army. British were humiliated by the Germans hiding in the tunnels in fear of their lives. Reinforcements and support from their indian colony was their saving grace. There was a point when many parts of London was destroyed and USA had not officially entered the war. A real dark and desperate period in British history.
I can't recall the name but I saw it in one of the documentaries on WW2. Indian soldiers gained a lot of self-confidence watching their white masters hide in fear, while they fought gallantly. All the racial superiority BS was put to rest during this war, at least for the soldiers.75 percent of the British navy was decimated by German air strikes . British india army In ww2 is the largest "volunteer army" in history. Interesting new term for colonial army. British were humiliated by the Germans hiding in the tunnels in fear of their lives. Reinforcements and support from their indian colony was their saving grace. There was a point when many parts of London was destroyed and USA had not officially entered the war. A real dark and desperate period in British history.
No , I did say that ... there is a difference between "tial ka Taarh" and "rai ka pahad" in terms of magnitude of saying.I'm not making any rai ka pahaad.
If it was fad in his generation then it would have created a big scene in the whole country and news papers would be highlighting every now and then at that time.Did that happened?No,'coz the left-communists who were holding the academic-political circles didn't brought to the common man.
And Tharoor is an opportunist.
And please don't teach me about communists.During fight against Nizams communists laid down their life but to only Hyderabad to not join India.This is only one example.Communists always fight the ruler doesn't matter whether the ruler or ruling party is right or wrong,even they extend the fight to arms struggle like CPI(ML),maoists,etc. And I come from a land where we kicked these maoists,PWG to their rightful places.
My point is Tharoor brought this up in UK Supreme court in late 2014 but why almost the same speech in Oxford is being highlighted by the Mainstream Media now?
UK is well on it's way to become the 7th state of Pakistan. Why ruin a good thing?I like it. We can make UK our 31st state
The British were humiliated in WW2? Read a book.75 percent of the British navy was decimated by German air strikes . British india army In ww2 is the largest "volunteer army" in history. Interesting new term for colonial army. British were humiliated by the Germans hiding in the tunnels in fear of their lives. Reinforcements and support from their indian colony was their saving grace. There was a point when many parts of London was destroyed and USA had not officially entered the war. A real dark and desperate period in British history.
I am from Australia. Australia made up 18% of the soldiers in Malaysia in WW2. The majority of soldiers there then were Indian. Australians made up 80% of the battle casaulities in Malaysia. The Gurkhas ran, the Sikhs were cowards, gave up there duty, and betrayed. The rest of the "Indians"...I can't recall the name but I saw it in one of the documentaries on WW2. Indian soldiers gained a lot of self-confidence watching their white masters hide in fear, while they fought gallantly. All the racial superiority BS was put to rest during this war, at least for the soldiers.
Moron, read history first, learn the economics and history of railway in India, then comment.Does British Rail get royalties for every train ticket bought in India?
Yes, they were humiliated at every front, and if Japs' attack on Pearl Harbour did not force US and its massive, untouched industrial workforce to plunge into WW2, Brits would have starved in their tiny island. It is the US involvement that saved the BRits, and at the end of WW2 the so called Empire was too weak to keep it intact and had become a yYes Sir' majordomo of USA.The British were humiliated in WW2? Read a book.
http://www.naval-history.net/WW2aBritishLosses01BB.htm75% of the Royal Navy... read a book.
1% of the RN was sunk by the Luftwaffe in WW2. I am making this number up, like you. But, I am far, far closer to the truth that you are. The Luftwaffe, as far as I remember, never sunk a RN Capital ship. The Germans with U boats, mines and German torpedo boats sank huge amount of allied merchant shipping. But, navy boats... 75 % you and that Maitra looser being moderators are a perfect example of the problems of this website.
Yeah, Gurkhas ran, Sikhs were cowards...yadda yadda yadda.....I am from Australia. Australia made up 18% of the soldiers in Malaysia in WW2. The majority of soldiers there then were Indian. Australians made up 80% of the battle casaulities in Malaysia. The Gurkhas ran, the Sikhs were cowards, gave up there duty, and betrayed. The rest of the "Indians"...
Now, how did Aussies made up of 80% of casualties, when they are numbered so few and were placed in less risky places and later withdrew to Singapore and then surrendered.Following the Japanese invasion on 8 December 1941, the 8th Division and its attached Indian Army units was assigned responsibility for the defence of Johore in the south of Malaya.[92] As a result, it did not see action until mid-January 1942 when Japanese spearheads first reached the state, having pushed back the British and Indian units defending the northern parts of the peninsula. By this time, the division's two brigades had been split up, with the 22nd having been deployed around Mersing and Endau on the east coast and the 27th in the west.[93] The division's first engagement came on the west coast around Muar on 14 January, where the Japanese Twenty-Fifth Army was able to outflank the Commonwealth positions due to Bennett misdeploying the forces under his command so that the weak Indian 45th Brigade was assigned the crucial coastal sector and the stronger Australian brigades were deployed in less threatened areas. While the Commonwealth forces in Johore achieved a number of local tactical victories, most notably around Gemas, Bakri and Jemaluang,[94] they were unable to do more than slow the Japanese advance and suffered heavy casualties in doing so. After being outmanoeuvred by the Japanese, the remaining Commonwealth units withdrew to Singapore on the night of 30–31 January
^^^ That's the gallantry of Aussies in Battle of Malaya and Singapore. The General Benett was a Aussie - the prime example of Aussie intelligence and bravery.After further fighting in which the Commonwealth forces were pushed into a narrow perimeter around the urban area of Singapore, Percival surrendered his forces on 15 February. Although some Australians were able to escape, following the capitulation 14,972 Australians were taken prisoner.[99] Bennett was among those that managed to get out, having left the island the night before the surrender via sampan after handing over command of his division to Brigadier Cecil Callaghan. He later justified his actions saying that he had gained an understanding of how to defeat the Japanese and needed to return to Australia to pass his knowledge on, but two post-war inquiries found that he was unjustified in leaving his command.[100] The loss of almost a quarter of Australia's overseas soldiers and the failure of the Singapore strategy that had permitted it to accept the sending of the AIF to aid Britain, stunned the country.[101]
It's amazing how stupid and dishonest Aussies and Brits have become. Butt-hurt they are!!@apple actually has fallen from the tree. You are basically an supreme class idiot - hopefully not a prime example of the Aussies, although the extreme weather of Finland might have frozen your brain, as the example of jouni goes.
Moron, read history first, learn the economics and history of railway in India, then comment.
Yes, they were humiliated at every front, and if Japs' attack on Pearl Harbour did not force US and its massive, untouched industrial workforce to plunge into WW2, Brits would have starved in their tiny island. It is the US involvement that saved the BRits, and at the end of WW2 the so called Empire was too weak to keep it intact and had become a yYes Sir' majordomo of USA.
http://www.naval-history.net/WW2aBritishLosses01BB.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_Navy_losses_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Royal_Navy#Second_World_War
Apart from a few ships that Brits started with in WW2, including majority of Battleships, the RN received a huge blow and would have been incapable of going on except USA's help. The liberty class ships were RN's savious.
Yeah, Gurkhas ran, Sikhs were cowards...yadda yadda yadda.....
In the history of Gurkhas for over 200 years no one has ever said that Gurkhas ran from their enemy. This two words singularly is what sums up your intellectual integrity. Btw, you really need to read up yourself :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Army_during_World_War_II#Malaya_and_Singapore
Now, how did Aussies made up of 80% of casualties, when they are numbered so few and were placed in less risky places and later withdrew to Singapore and then surrendered.
^^^ That's the gallantry of Aussies in Battle of Malaya and Singapore. The General Benett was a Aussie - the prime example of Aussie intelligence and bravery.
You might have known, had you studied that all the surrendering were done by the white officers, as no Indian was in the command in any of the battle. The planning of battle and later surrendering, all were done by the Brits or their White-counterparts. The Indian National Army, recruited from already surrendered POWs, and no Indian soldier who were not taken POW, ever defected to INA.
But, then to accept the above points, and even learing of them requires intellectual honesty and integrity, which :no wonder: you sorely lack.
Before his stint in Congress, he was in service of UN, this is why, he is so good with all those sweet tongue dialogues. he was a good in UN, but it was a shock to me when he decided to join CONgress.I was jumping with joy that a leader from Congress Party has balls of steel to say the truth confidently and that to international audience. It delivery was extraordinary and some of his statements were powerful and impressive.
Seemed like in a Congress leader's body ..a BJP soul has entered OR you can say the hidden Indian patriots suddenly burst like a volcano. The speech was probably the best I heard from a Congress leader after the passing away of our lady of steel, Mrs. Indira Gandhi. Shashi Tharoor speech was great and even PM Modi
could not stop his praise for him.
Mr. Modi probably felt Mr Tharoor was saying his "MAN KI BAAT".
I rather be a self loathing ignoramus troll than be an arrogant blind hyper nationalist.
- That speech was a part of debate on whether British rule was beneficial for their colonies.
- The speakers were from various former colonies, Tharoor was one, someone from Jamaica and so on.
- The final outcome was that the arguments put forth by from former colonies (including that of Tharoor) that British rule was not beneficial to their colonies won the debate.
But hey, being a self loathing ignoramus troll is much easier, especially online. Carry on.
- It was a empathic win too, voted 156 in favour of former colonies v/s 89 for the Britishers.
At least know the context before going all Amartya Sen here as well.I rather be a self loathing ignoramus troll than be an arrogant blind hyper nationalist.
I will tell you why he has no right to speak about British rule in India.
When British were ruling India,they created an elite class of Indians who were basically Indian in appearance but British by heart.When the British left India,the whites were instantly replaced by these brown sahibs who led the foundation of India's ruination.
The MP and his party are a part of that very elite class and him speaking at oxford about the ill effects of colonialism creates a very pot kettle black moment.
No,India did not deserve the occupation.I am not defending the colonial rule.You make it sound like we deserved the occupation.Dude look at the size and diversity of India,you can't compare it with Philippines and Indonesia.We have come a long way since 1947 .Tharoor has made some really good points.Britain at least need to formally apologize for its actions if not providing reparations.