Shahi Imam announces support for the Congress

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  1. hit&run

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    Shahi Imam announces support for the Congress | NDTV.com

    Since Muslims have taken the sides and like throughout their history a wrong side.

    I appeal all Hindus to vote for BJP.

    Congress-I (Italian oxymoron) has successfully polarised this nation to win this election, let it be the case. I was the only person who fought for BJP to address Hindus but many sikulars were getting their undies into twist.

    Even when BJP is begging with both hands folded to vote for development, Muslims have given wrong signal/perception which is nothing but communal covered with a smoke screen of secularism, not India first.

    The history will ask Muslims what message they had for this nation when agenda of this election was development which Congress-I failed miserably last time.
     
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    Would be good to do a post election analysis to how many followed Shahi Imam's appeal and how many didn't heed.

    Do we have historical data of previous occurrences of such events?
     
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    Doesn't matter now, demage is done, BJP should now concentrate on voters other than Muslims, regardless of outcome of this election. I believe it is long game for BJP, which go beyond these 2014 elections, to establish its self as party which first win states in succession, stays in power for longer time and then LS elections.

    Having said that I admit it is a normal practise for religious leaders to come out and support one party but this time this issue was not secularism vs communalism. Muslims could have rejected BJP on many other excuses by not Sonia Gandhi's version of secularism.
     
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    Shahi Immam is becoming more and more irrelevant. His followers only include a section of Sunni muslims in India. If Sunnis vote for one party, the shias will vote for someone else. It is a myth that muslims vote en bloc. Certainly this election is not about communalism, rather it is about corruption and development. More and more muslims are turning against these secular bandwallas in the parliament. Even if 10% of the muslim votes come toward the BJP it would be slap in the face of these secular bandwallas and thus forcing them to focus on development of the nation.
     
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    He is do influential that even his brother doesn't listen to him!! Bloody idiot. Must have made mota maal for this statement
     
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    History tells that he has sided with many parties ie. BJP,SP etc before.
     
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    Shias have been voting for BJP including UP.

    I don't agree with HR when he talks about polarization. Already many Muslim voters are moving towards BJP. 5 yrs of good BJP rule with development will force more and more Muslims to gravitate towards BJP. In the long term the BJP will stand to gain.

    More importantly, if BJP wins the trust of Muslims, it stands good to resolve long standing communal issues as well.

    More polarization will only mean more riots, disharmony, ultimately dragging economy down. Economy,development is all that matters.
     
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    He goes to side that pays him most. He should be in jail for his crimes.
     
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    He cant get his own family members to win :rofl:
     
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    I be more than happy if polarization doesn't happen and muslim votes for their candidates in their respective constituencies on their merit; because merit or perception of merit is with BJP this time.

    Having said that I also believe at the same time that BJP has to consolidate its natural constituency that is Hindus than betting on Muslims much, as this particular endorsement has already shown who easier it is to get Muslims leaders into their pockets than their hindu counterparts.

    Media has already announced it as Congress-I scoring muslim Imam's support, they will now consolidate from it. NDTV el al are already out in the field to make sure Muslims do not go towards BJP. Muzzaffar Nagar riots are going to play important role against BJP, like 1984 riots have been systematically blamed on RSS/BJP inflicting visible polarization between Hindus and Sikhs, the same has been happening in UP on much faster pace with BJP leaders already booked for their mischief and others spared.

    Muslism of Gujarat might have been exception for BJP but racking Gujarat riots still has role to play in Congress-I script for rest of the India to get Muslims divided or on their side. Even Mamta Benerjee [spellings] thinks the same is worth a mention to stop Modi.
     
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    [video]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/Shahi-Imams-brother-questions-closed-doors-meet-with-Sonia-Gandhi/videoshow/33293003.cms[/video]
     
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    Frankly, I don't think any significant no. of muslim are ever going to vote for BJP - whether it is Modi or someone else.

    BJP should try to consolidate the Hindu votes - transcending the castes. It is the Hindus who primarily vote for BJP w/o any reservation. So in an effort to woo muslims BJP might jeopardize its own chance of support from all sections of Hindus if it goes back on UCC or 370.
     
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    When I agree that resolution of communal issues is connected with development, as long as muslims don't stop listening to their religious leaders in the matter of politics, like hindus have long ago, the polarisation would go on.

    The moment muslims stop expecting to be treated as different, the different treatment would stop.
     
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    True.. I too dont understand trying to woo people who are not going to vote to you anyway, at the cost of not wooing people who have a chance of voting for you

    Fat chance
     
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    If Modi is smart, he will channelize his welfare for Muslims exclusively to Shia Muslims. Let the Sunni warmongers rot in hell. Modi also needs to facilitate extensive relations between Iran and India's Shia population just to piss off Saudis.

    Anyway, most Indian Muslims who have made any real contribution to India are Shias. Sunnis have only given us mullahs and jehadis.
     
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    True. Muslims can talk about secularism, but in reality, that's an oxymoron. The fact is they want exclusive and special benefits which in turn is called appeasement and thus will vote for all parties who offer them such things.

    They are so used to free gifts and schemes, that they take it as it their compulsory right over actual hard work.
     
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    The Congress has shot itself in the foot by asking "secular" support from the Imam. The Imam holds littte or no sway over muslim voters as the results of past assembly elections have shown but what it will do is further polarize hindu voters towards the BJP from the yadavs (SP) and BCs (BSP) in UP. I hope he keeps talking.

    This is the result of non-meritorious leadership based on dynasty. This thing is too complex for people who struggle to pass grade school and have to fudge their academic records.
     
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    Imam Bukhari's job to lead congregational prayers, not politics
    IANS India Private Limited/Yahoo India News

    By Saeed Naqvi | IANS India

    https://in.news.yahoo.com/imam-bukharis-job-lead-congregational-prayers-not-politics-065004804.html


    Muslim spokesmen, appointed by few know whom, are all over the TV channels. With election fever picking up, they are also forming delegations and trooping into homes of politicians to strike deals on behalf of the Qaum.

    The latest in brief limelight is Imam Bukhari of Jama Masjid. He met Congress President Sonia Gandhi "for 45 minutes". He says he "discussed the arrest of Muslim youth in terror cases, implementation of the Sachar Committee and Ranganath Mishra Commission recommendations, Anti Communal Violence Bill". More likely, she listened to him.

    The Indian Express report said the Imam's endorsement would "bolster the Congress campaign, especially in Uttar Pradesh". But this was precisely the calculation when the Congress fielded the Imam's son-in-law from Saharanpur for the 2012 state assembly election. He lost.

    If Sonia Gandhi imagines she is dealing with a leader of Indian Muslims, she will not be doing much good to her party, Indian Muslims or the Imam. It is empirically proven that in the political sphere his word does not carry.

    The Congress president should know that a running battle between Muslim factions on the issue of Waqf land in New Delhi has been holding up traffic in key areas of the capital region with alarming frequency. It is a trifling matter but with potential for sectarian clashes. Did the Imam ever intervene? If he did not have a say in the matter, surely the government had the authority to implement a high court order pertaining to the land which happens to be in the fancy Jorbagh area. It is not even an issue, just a small dispute which has led to a breach of peace more than once. People who live in the area have begun to see this "intra Muslim" quarrel disturbing their daily lives.

    It turns out that there is no leadership worth the name which can mediate between people and the government on this as on any civic issue. The problem becomes severe in Muslim enclaves. People, after having voted on Election Day, are left to their devices. Come Election Day and again the Imam is required to pull out his grand apparel.

    For decades Muslims remained regular Congress voters. This was their respite from the trauma of partition and its aftermath. The first intimations of political mortality for Indira Gandhi came in 1967: she lost in eight northern states.

    Then came the first indications of a Nehru-Gandhi figure becoming saffron-positive: Indira Gandhi began to canvass Hindu support. The "Muslim appeasement" chant of the Sangh Parivar had begun to corrode the secular façade of even Indira Gandhi.

    This anxiety became even more pronounced in the Rajiv Gandhi years. V.N. Gadgil, Congress general secretary, told me in 1985, that "Hindus were beginning to fear that Muslims were appeased by successive Congress governments". How "appeased" the minorities were became clear in the Sachar Committee Report in 2006. But the Congress had already set into motion steps to woo Hindu sentiment. In 1986 it opened the locks to the Mandir in Ayodhya. Climax was reached with Rajiv Gandhi promising "Ram Rajya" while kicking off the party's 1989 election campaign from Ayodhya.

    To keep the Muslims in his sway, Rajiv banned Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses", upturned the Supreme Court verdict on the Shah Bano case and delayed upgrading relations with Israel, as if these were the bread and butter issues for Indian Muslims. Those have never been addressed.

    Rajiv's faulty moves on issues he had no instinctive feel for, left the field open for the BJP to expand. P.V. Narasimha Rao found it more important to thwart Arjun Singh's political aspirations, than to build defences against the rising tide of the BJP.

    History will judge P.V. as having been a better friend of Atal Bihari Vajpayee than of any Congress leader. Little wonder that L.K. Advani described him as the best prime minister since Lal Bahadur Shastri. And why not? During the 1965 war with Pakistan, Shastri had asked the RSS to take over Civil Defence duties.

    This, Madame Congress president, is a trend which your party is not equipped to reverse. You must know that the party you supervise is the one that Muslims would have been the most averse to had the RSS-BJP not chosen a candidate whom even a magazine like the Economist has flinched from endorsing.

    On Dec 7, 2013, the country did not know what would be in the cards Dec 8, when election results to four state assemblies were to be announced. The Congress was trounced in all the four and in Delhi emerged AAP, quite miraculously. Many including the Muslims did not know that AAP had this extraordinary potential. It became a matter of survival for the Indian establishment to check AAP in its tracks. That too is what the nation including its Muslims will wait to see with bated breath May 16.

    (05.04.2014. A senior commentator on political and diplomatic affairs, Saeed Naqvi can be reached on [email protected])
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    Another case of Islam & Quam khatre mein hai.

    I hope the muslim voter can see through this political chicanery & vote as per his /her own decision based on analysis of what they need.

    The shahi imam ( now imam to which shah ? sonia ? ) lives a life of luxury & freedom from want .

    What about the majority of muslims?
     
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    What is written in the article ?
     

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