Scenario for Restructuring Indian Army and their weapons?

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  1. Dixit13

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    Fireteam: 4-8
    Squad: 8-22
    Platoon: 30-70
    Company: 70-250
    Battalion: 300-1000
    Brigade: 3000-5000
    Division: 10,000-20,000

    Roles and Wepon systems:

    Sniper (1)
    Primary weapon: Dragunov SVD59, Accuracy International AS50 Or L115A3 AWM (scopes, suppressor, nightvision and thermal)
    Secondary weapon : Micro UZI, MP-7 OR Beretta 92

    MarksMan (2)
    Primary weapon: Heckler & Koch HK417 OR IMI Galil 7.62 Sniper {{scopes, suppressor and nightvision}}
    Secondary weapon : Glock 17 OR Beretta 92

    infantry machine gunner(1-2)
    Primary weapon: M249 light machine gun, FN Minimi OR PK machine gun
    Secondary weapon : FN Five-seven OR Glock 17

    Point Man (1-2) (depending on environment)
    Primary weapon: kriss super v, Heckler & Koch HK416, Special Operations Assault Rifle (SOAR) {{with scopes, nightvision}}
    Secondary weapon : FN Five-seven (suppressor)

    Infantry Anti-Tank Missileman (1-2)
    Primary weapon: Carl Gustav, JAVELIN, RPG-29 OR Saab AT/4 (may b MPAD if situation requires)
    Secondary weapon : FN P90, Glock 17 Or Beretta 92

    Infantry Mans (7-13)
    Primary weapon: AK-47/AKM/103 , IMI Tavor TAR-21, Heckler & Koch HK416 (improved M4), 1B1 INSAS (M203, scopes)
    Secondary weapon : Beretta 92,


    Now with good training and tactics you can defeat any modern army :) :frusty::frusty::frusty:
     
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  3. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    The first thing that Army is trying to have better with similarity of spare parts in almost all fire arms ( Rifle, LMG, Carbine, Sniper Rifle ) also similar ammo for all except few..

    And Indeed with better tactics and training one can beat the other lesser trained one but this is not always..
     
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    ""but this is not always""".....I think you are pointing at - soviet invasion of Afghanistan / Vietnam war and you r right, but than again their tactics have been failed although they were well trained than their counterparts. But mind it (as Media portrays) they are not defeated but failed in fulfilling their objectives.....
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    No, i am pointing at : Same or better adversary with technological edge..
     
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    Regarding Equipment..
    An Army Should always have spare for there Rifles, Plenty of Bullets and the Rifle should be very reliable with needed accuracy...

    My Idea on the Subject:

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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Same can be done for Insas..
     
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    Any organisational structure that is built requires rational.

    What is the rational for the various teams. their manpower and their weapon and equipment as given by you?
     
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    Modernize AK-47 looks Mean....
     
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    Btw, Do we have Sniper School ???
     
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    Looks doesn't bring any results and it still fulfills its tasks.
    RR should induct LMGs of 762 caliber instead of 556 as it will have common spares as the ones used in kalashnikovs.
     
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    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Which sniper ?

    Long range sniper ?
    Stalingrad type sniper ?
    Silent killer ?
    Covert Surveillance sniper?
    Vehicle and ICV sniper ?
    Jackal killing Degol type killer sniper?

    Yes, people from world over attend special firing skill at CIJW School and Infantry school as given in MoD web site.

    Unfortunately MoD is too pauper to give them assortment of sniper weapons and DRDO is too busy to think about it.
     
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    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Do not make mockery of of an objective based and functional result and mission oriented organisation called Army.

    So you start with a fire team ?
    So you think the mission of the Army in basic is to fire ??
    NO that is the basic function of Tanks and Guns, aircraft and ships. Their movement is primarily to fire where movement of

    The function of basic army bricks called infantry is to hold ground and close in with the enemy. For that, something more than fire is needed.infantry is to close in with the enemy and destroy him in close combat even with your teeth and nails.


    The basic tactics of infantry is fire and move. It is not only fire. Fire is only a support and destructive element to cover the movement. Movement is the winning element as that helps one to close in with the enemy.

    Therefore squad consists of fire support element and assault element who function part of the one single whole reversing roles as the situation so demands.

    Rest all you wrote is just bunkum ! A platoon can never be 70 men... the resources of platoon are inadequate for those number to be kept into a tight organisation.

    I hope we all understand "organisation".
     
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    Can we use Indian Army terminology when discussing the Indian Army?

    Or is it a fashion statement being made by using US terminology?

    Let's have our feet firmly on the ground and not start flying into orbit.
     
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    No, But yes Sniper Hub where infantry get training..

    The best in Army send outside for Sniper training..

    The possibilities are endless if one try..
     
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    Snipping essentially is an infantry speciality ( more speciality for SF) > Infantry is the only arm where Sniper could be authorised to be part of the organisation. Hence the hub of Sniper training logically have to be infantry training institutions.

    Other than that snipers are very good assets for intelligence organisations and special operations groups or organise hit operations.
     
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  19. Kunal Biswas

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    Bhadra, What kind of Sniping training & facilities available in Mhow ?

    Edit: I like rammstein..
     
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    I do not know. MoD web site says snipers are trained at Infantry school. Where I am not aware !
     
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    More like marksmanship training there, Now days good shooter are send in US & Germany for training specially Sniper training..
     
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