Saudi analyst claim Saudis have nuclear weapon

[garg_bharat]

Saudi Arabia is not in NATO. My take is the importance of saudi oil has declined as other countries have boosted oil production.

Saudi has two exports: oil and Islam.

It has relied on the second export more as first one has reduced value.

My take is we are close to a significantly reduced USA role in middle-east. It is not disengagement yet, but direction is very clear.

Russia is in Syria because it saw an opportunity to fill the vacuum.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It still has strategic importance for attacking neighboring countries in the Middle East.

 

[garg_bharat]

The problem for erdogan is that Russia moved first. Turkey relied too heavily on shadow warfare. Sabotage does not give the intended result always. The war should be to stop the anarchy, not to create anarchy. The rebels have not been able to create conditions better than regime where they ruled, and it is obvious that Syrian revolution is dead.

Saudi want to achieve their objectives with an invasion when sabotage failed.

There are many problems here. The first of course is rationale. Second is means.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Syria still has a strategic importance for a pipeline from Europe to Middle East.

 

[garg_bharat]

It still has strategic importance for attacking neighboring countries in the Middle East.

It is always cost-benefit analysis. There is no absolute.

If Europe can get oil some place else, the strategic value diminishes.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It is always cost-benefit analysis. There is no absolute.

If Europe can get oil some place else, the strategic value diminishes.

The plan is to economically isolate Russia. No oil from Russia to europe

 

[garg_bharat]

I very much doubt that Russia can be isolated economically or it is even a plan.

Russia is posting positive balance of trade despite sanctions and two wars. The initial shock of capital flight has been absorbed. Now the fx reserves are rising again.

People have ignored what i have said, that russia is fundamentally different from ussr. Russia has natural resources but not the liabilities of ussr.

The east europe is a burden. Good that burden transferred from russia to usa.

 

[garg_bharat]

Russia is on its way to become a major player in middle east again.

I think this is what is causing nightmares to erdogan.

 

[rockey 71]

At the end of the day, all acts / moves overseas are to address issues at home. The Saudi society is clamoring for openness. Even the fundamentalists are said to be gaining power and influence by the day.There are ruffles even within the huge royals who will be increasingly seen as parasites as the economy weakens. So Syria and Yemen. Shiah - Sunni, Arab - Persian, Byzantine - Persian or Russia- Turkey acrimony are historical facts that still cause emotions to erupt.

 

[bose]

I am waiting to see the day when Saudia getting destroyed like Iraq and Syria ... Saudis are the most evil people on the earth...

 

[Indx TechStyle]

May have got from China. They already get plenty of missiles too from China.

 

[no smoking]

Is Saudi really under american nuclear umbrella?

Yankees made it very clear to Russian and Chinese that her nuclear umbrella covers every single American basis.

 

[garg_bharat]

Yankees made it very clear to Russian and Chinese that her nuclear umbrella covers every single American basis.

Does Saudi Arabia have American military base? And even if it has, does it mean automatic nuclear war if one is attacked.

Assumptions do not help. Words like "nuclear umbrella" mean nothing in reality. As I said before, nukes have not been used in war since WWII as there has been considerable restraint on the part of nuclear powers. Wars have happened though during this period.

If this restraint goes away at any point, the first reaction will be a rush by several countries to build nukes.

 

[Kshatriya87]

No..no.. India is working on scenarios.. you seee

http://www.arabnews.com/economy/news/865606
India’s share of Middle Eastern oil imports declines
Saturday 16 January 2016

India to increase oil imports from Africa, cut dependence on Middle East
22 Jan 2016

India is looking at raising crude oil imports from Africa as part of efforts to diversify sourcing of energy and reducing dependence on the Middle East, Oil Minister Dharmendra Pradhan said on Thursday.

India imports nearly 80% of its oil needs. Nearly two-third of this volume traditionally was supplied by exporters in the Middle-East led by Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Kuwait. This dependence over time has been brought down.


The country imported 99.36 million tonnes of crude oil in April-September this fiscal, 57% of which came from the Middle-East region.

"We imported 32 million tonnes of crude in 2014 from Africa, including 3 million tonnes from North Africa and 29 million tonnes from West Africa, mainly from Nigeria and Angola. This constitutes approximately 16% of our consumption. This is going to increase in the coming years," Pradhan said.

Speaking at the inaugural session of the 4th India-Africa Hydrocarbons Conference, he said over the past two decades, the African hydrocarbon sector has been expanding rapidly as also the interests of Indian oil companies in the continent.

"As a matter of policy, the present Indian government is keen to move towards a geographically diversified energy basket. This has resulted in India's greater focus on Africa as a vital region for sourcing petroleum products in coming years," he said.

Crude import from Africa has played an important role in India's energy security.

Of the 99.36 million tonnes of crude oil India imported in April-September this fiscal, Africa supplied a third of it while South America accounted for a little less than 16%. At 11.59 million tonnes, Nigeria is the third largest supplier of crude oil to India in April-September, behind Saudi Arabia (19.56 million tonnes) and Iraq (17.01 million tonnes).

Pradhan said India's scarcity of domestic energy resources can be offset by Africa's surplus energy reserves - which accounts for about 15% of current proved accessible global oil reserves.


"Over the past two decades, the African hydrocarbon sector has seen rapid growth. The new discoveries in Africa have seen oil reserves growth by over 100% and gas reserves growth by over 55%. We believe that this will greatly improve Africa's position as an exporter of not only oil but also gas," he said.

India has emerged as the fastest growing major economy in the world with over 7% Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth, he said, adding that the country's energy consumption has been constantly increasing.

The Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) of Indian primary energy consumption in the last 15 years has been about 7.3% as compared to a global CAGR of 3%. "I expect energy demand to go up further," he said.

Pradhan said as per the International Energy Agency's (IEA) World Energy Outlook 2015, India will contribute around 25% of the growth in global energy demand. It will thus be the single largest contributor to energy growth globally. Indian upstream companies have been active in Africa's hydrocarbon sector.

"In Mozambique, Sudan and South Sudan, Indian companies have a major presence in exploration and production segments with total investments of nearly $7-8 billion (nearly Rs 47,516-54,304 crore) now," he said. "Indian companies also hold an interest in key oil and gas projects in Gabon, Libya and Egypt."


"We are confident that India, apart from being an attractive market for crude oil and gas, will be an able partner for African nations across the industry value chain," he said.

Indian companies are already providing comprehensive Engineering, Procurement and Construction (EPC) services to the hydrocarbon sector in Africa. Presently, they are working in Algeria, Nigeria, Libya, Sudan and Ghana. Pradhan had said during the India-Africa Forum Summit in October last year, Prime Minister had announced 50,000 scholarships for African students and research scholars.

India has also offered a concessional credit of $10 billion (nearly Rs 67,880 crore) over next five years for African countries. "We have good scope to tap into this line of credit for oil and gas projects in Africa. I call upon public and private sector both in India and Africa to identify viable projects, which can be financed and pursued through this line of credit," he said.

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/repor...uce-dependence-on-middle-east-pradhan-2168800

What? Why doesn't it say anything about Brunei? We import a lot of oil & gas from there as well.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Looks like a who blinks first posturing scenario with nukes on the sides.

The worry is Russia has already " demostrated " the use of weapons in Syria with conventional war heads which could very well be coupled with nuclear warheds.
Thats a fair stage of escalation.

Limited Nuclear War Within 18 days as Saudis (and Friends) mass 350,000 troops, 20,000 Tanks, 2,450 Planes, 460 Helicopters for Syria Invasion
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/884

Other sources say 20 countries. This link says 25 countries. Somebody just give a proper finalised list of these freaking countries involved so I know who these world traitors are.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Does Saudi Arabia have American military base? And even if it has, does it mean automatic nuclear war if one is attacked.

Assumptions do not help. Words like "nuclear umbrella" mean nothing in reality. As I said before, nukes have not been used in war since WWII as there has been considerable restraint on the part of nuclear powers. Wars have happened though during this period.

If this restraint goes away at any point, the first reaction will be a rush by several countries to build nukes.

Yes they do. Military bases are like embassies. If an embassy/base is attacked, its an act of war. If an american base is nuked anywhere in the world, americans will nuke you back.

 

[no smoking]

Assumptions do not help. Words like "nuclear umbrella" mean nothing in reality.

Maybe for you. But Russian and Chinese took it very seriously.

As I said before, nukes have not been used in war since WWII as there has been considerable restraint on the part of nuclear powers. Wars have happened though during this period.

Yes, but there were couple times that superpowers threatened with nuclear attack and the other side couldn't withdraw from the war faster.

If this restraint goes away at any point, the first reaction will be a rush by several countries to build nukes.

None of them dare to challenge superpowers' bottom line.

 

[garg_bharat]

Again I have to say China has its view. India's view does not necessarily coincide with China's view.

We see the Saudi statement and the American leak as a concerning situation.

 

[sorcerer]

* ahem *ahem
U.S. Companies Granted Authorizations for Nuclear Work in Saudi
03.27.19
https://nukewatch.org/new-and-updat...ted-authorizations-for-nuclear-work-in-saudi/


The U.S. Department of Energy has approved six authorizations for U.S. companies seeking to conduct nuclear related work in Saudi Arabia, according to two sources with knowledge of those approvals. Federal law stipulates that companies obtain clearance from the U.S. government for exporting nuclear technology to or engaging in the production or development of special nuclear material in Saudi Arabia.

The authorizations—known as Part 810s, referring to a clause in federal regulations —allow U.S. companies to divulge specific details about plans for working in Saudi Arabia and certain information about the nuclear technology. For example, a company would need a Part 810 to transfer physical documents, electronic media or the “transfer of knowledge and expertise” to Saudi Arabia, according to the Department of Energy.


It’s been unclear to what extent the U.S. government, and U.S. companies, have communicated with Riyadh about nuclear energy, especially in the wake of the brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and amid claims by Democrats on the Hill that individuals in the national security community attempted to discuss a nuclear deal with Riyadh without going through the proper regulatory approval process.

The DOE authorizations, previously unreported, indicate that U.S. companies are indeed moving ahead in their plans to engage with Saudi Arabia on nuclear technology and nuclear energy development. The companies began seeking contact with Riyadh in November 2017.

It’s unclear which U.S. companies have obtained authorizations. The Department of Energy has not responded to a Daily Beast Freedom of Information Act request. However, a congressional source said U.S. companies have the option of requesting their authorizations remain private and do not land in the department’s public reading room. The companies that received the Part 810s under the Trump administration have made such a request, according to that source.

IP3, a firm connected to a pack of former generals, was mentioned in a recent report by the House Oversight Committee. That report said IP3 had developed a proposal for Saudi Arabia that was “not a business plan” but rather “a scheme for these generals to make some money.” That report said Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had ties to the firm during his time working in the Trump administration.

“IP3 was formed as a bipartisan company to support the development of a public-private model for the peaceful introduction of nuclear power by the United States and its allies,” said Mike Hewitt, CEO of IP3. “There are concerns over Russia and China’s expansion into global Nuclear power development and the inherent geo-political and national security issues. The Middle East is but one region where this competition is playing out and currently the United States and its industry are not competitive in this growing market.”

IP3 still is in conversations with Saudi Arabia and other countries across the Middle East about nuclear energy related work, a source with direct knowledge of the firm’s plans told The Daily Beast. The firm’s proposals, however, look much different than what’s previously been reported, the source said, adding that they focus on security and protection of nuclear energy infrastructure.

The Daily Beast previously reported that as of late last year, members of the State Department were working actively to develop what’s known as a 123 agreement under the Atomic Energy Act.

The deal would provide the overall structure for nuclear cooperation between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia and would help guide the process of American companies exporting their nuclear technology to Riyadh.

The Atomic Energy Act requires legally binding commitments from countries that work with U.S. nuclear technology that they will not use those materials for making nuclear weapons. The law also mandates that the U.S. has to approve any enrichment of uranium involving American technology. The U.S. has over two dozen 123 agreements with countries such as Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, and Canada.

Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and other members of the Saudi government in Riyadh last month. Sources told The Daily Beast that members of the U.S. embassy in Riyadh were essentially shut out of those conversations, raising concern by Democratic lawmakers that Kushner and MBS had discussed a nuclear deal with minimal oversight.

 

[Anikastha]

* ahem *ahem
U.S. Companies Granted Authorizations for Nuclear Work in Saudi
03.27.19
https://nukewatch.org/new-and-updat...ted-authorizations-for-nuclear-work-in-saudi/


The U.S. Department of Energy has approved six authorizations for U.S. companies seeking to conduct nuclear related work in Saudi Arabia, according to two sources with knowledge of those approvals. Federal law stipulates that companies obtain clearance from the U.S. government for exporting nuclear technology to or engaging in the production or development of special nuclear material in Saudi Arabia.

The authorizations—known as Part 810s, referring to a clause in federal regulations —allow U.S. companies to divulge specific details about plans for working in Saudi Arabia and certain information about the nuclear technology. For example, a company would need a Part 810 to transfer physical documents, electronic media or the “transfer of knowledge and expertise” to Saudi Arabia, according to the Department of Energy.


It’s been unclear to what extent the U.S. government, and U.S. companies, have communicated with Riyadh about nuclear energy, especially in the wake of the brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and amid claims by Democrats on the Hill that individuals in the national security community attempted to discuss a nuclear deal with Riyadh without going through the proper regulatory approval process.

The DOE authorizations, previously unreported, indicate that U.S. companies are indeed moving ahead in their plans to engage with Saudi Arabia on nuclear technology and nuclear energy development. The companies began seeking contact with Riyadh in November 2017.

It’s unclear which U.S. companies have obtained authorizations. The Department of Energy has not responded to a Daily Beast Freedom of Information Act request. However, a congressional source said U.S. companies have the option of requesting their authorizations remain private and do not land in the department’s public reading room. The companies that received the Part 810s under the Trump administration have made such a request, according to that source.

IP3, a firm connected to a pack of former generals, was mentioned in a recent report by the House Oversight Committee. That report said IP3 had developed a proposal for Saudi Arabia that was “not a business plan” but rather “a scheme for these generals to make some money.” That report said Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had ties to the firm during his time working in the Trump administration.

“IP3 was formed as a bipartisan company to support the development of a public-private model for the peaceful introduction of nuclear power by the United States and its allies,” said Mike Hewitt, CEO of IP3. “There are concerns over Russia and China’s expansion into global Nuclear power development and the inherent geo-political and national security issues. The Middle East is but one region where this competition is playing out and currently the United States and its industry are not competitive in this growing market.”

IP3 still is in conversations with Saudi Arabia and other countries across the Middle East about nuclear energy related work, a source with direct knowledge of the firm’s plans told The Daily Beast. The firm’s proposals, however, look much different than what’s previously been reported, the source said, adding that they focus on security and protection of nuclear energy infrastructure.

The Daily Beast previously reported that as of late last year, members of the State Department were working actively to develop what’s known as a 123 agreement under the Atomic Energy Act.

The deal would provide the overall structure for nuclear cooperation between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia and would help guide the process of American companies exporting their nuclear technology to Riyadh.

The Atomic Energy Act requires legally binding commitments from countries that work with U.S. nuclear technology that they will not use those materials for making nuclear weapons. The law also mandates that the U.S. has to approve any enrichment of uranium involving American technology. The U.S. has over two dozen 123 agreements with countries such as Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, and Canada.

Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and other members of the Saudi government in Riyadh last month. Sources told The Daily Beast that members of the U.S. embassy in Riyadh were essentially shut out of those conversations, raising concern by Democratic lawmakers that Kushner and MBS had discussed a nuclear deal with minimal oversight.

If saudi gets nukes then why do they need pukies nukes.????
Break em Break em..