Sarpanch getting Killed in J&K: A danger for democracy!

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Should the article 370 be removed ?

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  1. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    J&K sarpanch murder: More than 50 panchayat members quit

    Reported by Nazir Masoodi, Written by Amit Chaturvedi | Updated: September 25, 2012 12:54 IST

    Srinagar: The panchayat elections in Jammu and Kashmir last April were seen as a victory for democracy against boycott calls by separatist groups and rule of fear and intimidation in the state. But now that euphoria is giving way to fear again.

    Frightened by killing of two sarpanchs in less than two weeks in Baramulla district, more than 50 panchayat members resigned yesterday. Over 700 have already resigned for last 8 months because of fear and intimidation.

    Local newspapers today published paid advertisements by panchs and sarpanchs announcing their resignations. One newspaper says 53 panchs and sarpanchs approached them with their resignations and wanted that these should be published in Tuesday's edition.

    On Sunday evening, suspected militants killed 37-year-old sarpanch Mohammad Shafi Teli at his doorstep in Nowpora village and created fear psychosis among panchayat members.

    "Today they killed Mohammad Shafi, tomorrow we don't know. We have no security, the government doesn't care. We don't want to be part of any politics or panchayats," said Mohammad Abdulla, a sarpanch.

    The panchayat elections, when they were held last year, elected more than 30,000 members by a large number of voters who turned up despite poll boycott threats.

    But now the militants are striking fear by picking panchayat members as soft targets. Since January this year, militants have killed three panchayat members and four others were injured.

    Tahira, a woman panchayat member, says, "I am scared. I have young kids. I have not earned even a penny. What is the point of continuing as a panchayat member?"

    Police say they will take more steps to ensure the safety of panchayat members. SM Sahai, Inspector General of Police, Kashmir said, "We will also go into the consultation process with them and see how they would feel comfortable and how we can secure them. They should also take certain precautions as much as we need to step up security arrangements."

    But for the militants, the job is much easier - kill one and frighten a hundred. And hit at the roots of democracy at grass roots that was established after a huge gap of 30 years in the state.
    J&K sarpanch murder: More than 50 panchayat members quit | NDTV.com

    All this is due to the Article 370 of the Indian Constitution! Should we remove the article through amendment ?
     
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  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    re: Sarpanch getting Killed in J&K: A danger for democracy!

    Its OK..

    Kashmiris find it a good exercise for terrorists and for themselves!

    If Omar and Sonia are happy, what can Manmohan do?
     
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    re: Sarpanch getting Killed in J&K: A danger for democracy!

    This will seriously backfire on the terrorists. Mauling the Kashmiris into obedience by terror is no longer a feasible idea by any means.
    IA should protect the Sarpanchs and strengthen the Village Security Committees further.
     
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    But did any media report or atleast protest by kashmiris ,these stupids will protest only if army is involved or religion is stopping them
     
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    Maybe we should pay them to protest like pakis ?
     
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    re: Sarpanch getting Killed in J&K: A danger for democracy!

    How is Article 370 related to the killings of Panchayat members? :confused:
     
  8. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    I think all the problems in J&K are related to article 370 or they too could have progressed like other states. If Kashmiris want to give a tight slap to the terrorists then they should support the removal of article 370.
     
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    re: Sarpanch getting Killed in J&K: A danger for democracy!

    Please demonstrate with reason or precedence that removing Article 370 will ensure Panchayat members will not be killed.

    Kashmiris 'giving a tight slap' to terrorists is not a specific instance. Such things have happened, like with Ruksana Kausar, without having to remove Article 370. Again, how will this specific case of murdering Panchayat members stop with removal of Article 370?
     
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    Rahul Gandhi, Omar Abdullah in faceoff over J&K panchayats

    NEW DELHI: Panchayat leaders from Jammu and Kashmir met Rahul Gandhi on Thursday to demand safety and empowerment while the Youth Congress launched an agitation in the state to highlight their cause, setting the stage for a faceoff between Congress and itsJ&K partner, National Conference.
    The Congress support for panchayat leaders in J&K came barely two days after Rahul flagged the plight of panchayats as a "serious matter" at the meeting of Congress Working Committee, lending a significant dimension given that he is known to share a good rapport with the young chief minister Omar Abdullah.
    As Rahul played host to the beleaguered panchayat representatives who are being targeted by terrorists, Abdullah told reporters in Srinagar that MLAs belonging to all political parties were opposed to ceding more powers to panchayat representatives.
    Congress sought to downplay the issue but stood by the "bettersafety and more powers" plank of the panchayat representatives.AICC spokesman Rashid Alvi said,"There is nothing like Rahul Gandhi vs Omar Abdullah ... (but) we want the state government toprovide full security to elected panchayat members. The party wants sarpanchs in the whole country to be empowered and adequate security provided to them."
    Though an unlikely agenda in thesensitive state grappling with challenges of terrorism and alienation, the panchayat issue has cornered national attention because of killings of sarpanchs by militants and their mass resignations. Government feels that the sarpanchs have been targeted by pro-Pakistan terroristgroups who are worried that implementation of grassroots governance through local bodies will undercut their support. There is concern that the trend, ifnot reversed, could undo the gains of highly successful panchayat polls which saw 90% turnout despite the boycott call.
    Worrying for their lives after a spate of attacks, panchayat members have accused the Abdullah regime of failing to stand by them despite the enormous risks they took by contesting the polls.
    Rahul's engaging the nine-men delegation of aggrieved panchayat men from Jammu and Kashmir has turned the issue into a high priority Congress agenda. After their meeting with the Congress general secretary, the panchayat representatives said he had promised to visit the state and address rallies highlighting their problems.
    The panchayat men also met Rahul's confidant and junior home minister Jitendra Singh , who is learnt to have urged the Union home secretary to arrangefor their security. AICC state in-charge Mohan Prakash may hold further talks with them.
    All this, along with the Youth Congress agitation in the state, may set the allies on a collision course, already billed as "Rahul vsOmar" faceoff.
    Youth Congress president Rajiv Satav said, "Youth Congress has started the agitation for empowerment of panchayats in state. We are committed to ensuring power and security to panchayat members. The leadership is serious about the issue."
    Sources said AICC's youth outfit took up the issue with Omar regime a couple of months ago and even held 12 conventions across the state to flag concerns. Rahul went the full throttle only after the state failed to heed theirdemand, the recent killings acting as catalyst.
    A Youth Congress leader said,"We have given an ultimatum to the state. There was 90% voting for panchayats, they braved gunsand now they have no power while being vulnerable to terrorists.
    The faceoff could present the Omar administration with tough challenge as Congress has identified a clutch of "lacunae" in the implementation of panchayati raj in J&K - like financial powers to sarpanchs are inadequate for works they can sanction; the state has not held elections after the first tier of three-tier process; the eligibility age for contesting panchayat polls is 25 years as against 21 years in other states

    Rahul Gandhi, Omar Abdullah in faceoff over J&K panchayats - The Times of India
     
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    Re: Rahul Gandhi, Omar Abdullah in faceoff over J&K panchayats

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    I hv a strong feeling that the 50 Sarpanch resignations were "orchestrated" 2 show RahulG playing a "higher & elevated" role! Choreographed?
     
  12. Ray

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    My personal experience in my many years in J&K, right from childhood, indicates that there could not have been a greater corrupt and disgustingly administered State as J&K.

    J&K is controlled by 14 families or so. Jagmohan, who was the Governor mentions it so.

    The problem is just that the J&K does not want to hand over financial powers (now with the BDOs) to the Sarpanches because it will be misappropriated or even given to the terrorists.

    The problem is not that easy as it seems.

    Rahul G is a leader who only understands populism and nothing more!
     

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