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Saradha scam: West Bengal transport minister Madan Mitra arrested - The Times of India
So, the Jihadi Didi has started screaming about how "BJP is destroying secular fabric of the nation". LOL yeah, CBI arresting scam accused definitely erodes "secular fabric".
These self-proclaimed secular thugs use 'secular fabric' to hide all their sins, it is becoming more apparent with each passing day. Any educated person who still votes for such people deserves good kicks to his backside.
BTW, has anyone noticed the spate of TMC goondagiri that has been happening in WB over the last few weeks? BJP supporters being burnt with cigarette butts, ABVP guys being beaten up by TMC goondas, and so on. It is almost a weekly occurrence. More and more terror plots being uncovered, TMC MPs being involved in terror plots - WB has descended into a hellhole under TMC.
If Jihadi Didi still wins in WB despite all this, we (rest of the nation) need to think of radical measures to save our Bengali brethren from being swallowed by this monster.
Hillary Clinton personally went to Kolkata to meet Mamata Banerjee after her party defeated Communist Party in WB state elections. It is unusual that US secretary of States who is otherwise anti-India takes so much interest in meeting a local leader in India.
Some time back there were rumours of strained diplomatic relations between US and India over some differences on Bangladesh policy.
Few years back there was a failed coup attempt against Bangladeshi Prime Minister by Islamist elements in the army.
Recently there have been allegations of a plot to assassinate secular and democratically elected Prime Minister of Bangladesh by the Islamists which was supposed to be carried out from Indian soil (West Bengal).
Hilary Clinton tried to do a lot of political engineering in India, in the past 5 years. She headed a task-force designed to prevent Modi from coming to power...and failed. AAP is one of her creations.
Jihadi Didi has already saved her next term with Bangdeshi vote bank. The so called naxulite belt has also fallen into didi trap. The elite/intellect class will vote for didi so as to avoid confronting midnight goonda knocks. Rural bengal/uninformed class by and large vote for didi. Bengal's politics is not an easy game. Parties with grassroot access and goondas in every mohalla can survive in Bengal.
I already posted this here, but I guess we can have a separate thread for it.
The TMC hit the streets last night.
They are hitting the streets today.
And till when one knows.
But her credibility has taken a huge blow.
And she is whimpering and ranting.
The Left is going for the jugular wanting CBI to investigate her, while the BJP is yet to show their cards.
First serving minister to be arrested
CHEHARAGULO DEKHLEI BHOY KORE: TRULY SPOKEN, CM
Chief minister Mamata Banerjee declares at Nabanna on Friday evening that â€œyou cannot bring police from Delhi and indulge in goondaism. Chehara guloi gundar motoâ€¦ cheharagulo dekhlei bhoy kore (their appearances are like those of goondasâ€¦ One feels scared when one looks at them)â€
Mamata: They arrested him on a Friday because courts will be closed on Saturday and Sunday
Not to forget: The CBI had asked Madan to appear on Thursday. Friday was Madanâ€™s choice. Madan will be produced in court on Saturday. Irrespective of day of arrest, a person has to be produced before a magistrate within 24 hours for further detention
Mamata: He will be produced in a CBI courtâ€¦. CBI court toh dhamadhara (loosely translated as â€˜underling or â€˜minionâ€™ and, in this context, â€˜unable to act independentlyâ€™)
Not to forget: The judges in the CBI courts are appointed by the state government. To cast aspersions on the judiciary can invite contempt even if the chief minister does so
Mamata: Has Madan done anything after Saradha was declared a chit fund company?
Not to forget: The suggestion appears to be an indirect admission that Madan had associated himself with the company until â€œit was declared a chit fund companyâ€. Saradha has never been declared a chit fund company
â€” because it was never a chit fund. It was a deposit mobilisation company whose collections grew in tandem with the surge in Trinamulâ€™s political fortunes. Saradhaâ€™s political godfathers distanced themselves from the company only after the scandal broke and Sudipta Sen fled
Mamata: If I arrest central ministers on one charge or the other, will it be good for democracy?
Not to forget: If central ministers â€” or anyone for that matter â€” break the law, it is not up to the chief minister
to decide whether to arrest them or not. If the crime warrants arrest, the law of the land has provisions to carry out the arrest. Contrary to what Trinamul leaders have been saying, a minister can be arrested without informing the Speaker in advance. The Speaker needs to be informed but after the arrest.
Calcutta, Dec. 12: Madan Mitra this afternoon became the first serving minister in Bengal to be arrested, an expected event freighted with the spectre of unexpected consequences.
Madan Mitra after his arrest.
The arrest of the street-savvy politician in the Saradha case also served to retrace the perilous path Trinamul chose since riding to power on the sole but sledge-hammer strength of a leader who was toasted all across the country as the symbol of honesty.
Mitra, the state transport and sports minister, was arrested by the CBI after he was questioned for nearly five hours.
The swoop clocked another first: no politician had been arrested earlier in the Saradha case on the very first day of interrogation. But unlike the others, Mitra's hospital-hopping had given the CBI enough time to prepare itself.
The minister has been slapped with charges linked to cheating, criminal conspiracy, misappropriation and "deriving undue financial benefits from the Saradha Group".
Chief minister Mamata Banerjee called the arrest a political conspiracy by the BJP against her government. Mitra will continue to be a minister as Mamata has refused to accept his resignation. She has announced plans for an agitation from tomorrow.
Mamata's fusillade from Nabanna, the state secretariat, prompted the BJP to coin the term "Nibor Dooh" - a reverse play on Robin Hood. The Left will hit the streets tomorrow to demand Mamata's interrogation.
Mitra has been arrested in connection with a Saradha Realty case. The CBI also arrested Naresh Balodia, Saradha boss Sudipta Sen's legal adviser, on the charges of criminal conspiracy, cheating and diversion of funds.
"There are reasons to believe that Mitra was involved with Sudipta Sen in plotting a conspiracy that ensured phenomenal growth of Saradha Realty within a period of two years at the expense of investors," said a CBI officer.
"He refused to accept the charges initially but later went mum as evidence was produced before him," the officer added.
Mitra reached the CBI office around 10.55am. The battery of supporters usually seen around the minister was missing in the morning.
By late tonight, when Mitra was shifted from the CGO complex in Salt Lake to the Electronics Complex police station, several foot soldiers had turned up to shout slogans. Mitra is expected to be produced in the CBI court in Alipore tomorrow.
Other than Mitra's public appearances with Sudipta Sen, what put the CBI on the minister's trail was the way the Saradha boss went about acquiring land in Bishnupur in South 24-Parganas for the Saradha Gardens project.
Investigations revealed that the group's biggest land assets were in Bishnupur. The acquisitions mostly took place soon after Mitra was elected as the MLA of the Bishnupur West Assembly seat in 2009.
Instances of such striking "coincidence" have proved to be the biggest millstone around Trinamul's neck.
In 2010, Mitra attended a meeting of Saradha investors at the Netaji Indoor Stadium and showered praise on Sudipta Sen. Mitra later said he was then not aware that Saradha was a "chit fund company".
Law officer quits
It was a bad day in office for Mamata on another count, too. The state's advocate-general, Bimal Chatterjee, resigned, citing poor health. But legal sources said the government's attitude was to blame for the second such resignation since the Mamata government assumed power.
First serving minister to be arrested
Fall of Didi's go-to man
- Should CBI have informed the Speaker and govt of the arrest in advance? NO
Chief minister Mamata Banerjee and panchayat minister Subrata Mukherjee on Friday raised several â€œconstitutionalâ€ issues after transport and sports minister Madan Mitra was arrested by the CBI in the Saradha case. Does the Constitution guarantee any protection for a minister from arrest? The Telegraph asked the question to several
constitutional lawyers and IPS officers.
The state government was not informed in advance that Mitra would be arrested
Officials said: The CBI is not bound to inform the government before arresting a minister. The CBI usually informs the government within 48 hours of executing such arrests. â€œBut this is a courtesy and is not binding,â€ said a senior IPS officer
The Assembly Speaker was not given prior information of Mitraâ€™s arrest
Officials said: If any minister or MLA is arrested outside the Assembly premises (as was the case with Mitra), the CBI has to inform the Speaker after, not before, the arrest. The rules say the Speaker should be intimated immediately after the arrest but in practice, a 24-hour window is given. Former Lok Sabha secretary-general Subhash Kashyap said the Speaker has to be intimated about the arrest â€œas soon as possible, preferably within 24 hours of the arrestâ€.
The â€œrules of procedure and conduct of businessâ€ in the Lok Sabha or respective state legislative Assemblies have identical provisions.
Rule 229 says: â€œWhen a member is arrested on a criminal charge or for a criminal offenceâ€¦ the executive authority shall immediately intimate such fact to the Speaker, indicating the reasons for the arrest, detention or conviction and also the place of detention in the appropriate form set out in the Third Scheduleâ€¦.
A CBI officer said the agency arrested Mitra after 4pm and a fax message was sent to the Speaker within a few hours.
The Speaker should be informed in advance if the CBI wants to arrest somebody from the Assembly premises.
Rule 232 says: â€œNo arrest shall be made within the precincts of the House without obtaining the permission of the Speaker.â€
Lawyer K.V. Dhananjay said: â€œSection 135 A of the Code of Civil Procedure provides for immunity from arrest only in respect of disobedience to any judgment by any civil court only on the days that the Assembly or the Parliament is in session. There is no corresponding provision in the Criminal Procedure Code.â€
Mitra was called as a witness but he was arrested
Officials said: The CBI can arrest a person called as a witness, if it finds that the person is not cooperating with
Can Madan continue as a minister?
Mamata said: â€œMadan has sent his resignation before going to the CBI office. It was his courtesy. But I will not accept his resignation as he has done nothing wrong. I would have removed him, had he committed any wrong. I will look after his work and he will continue as the minister.â€
Lawyers said: Mamata is right â€” as far as the Constitution is concerned, although ethical questions can be raised if
a minister should continue in the post after arrest.
The Constitution does not have any provision that disqualifies a legislator or a minister from holding any office upon mere arrest. The question of disqualification will arise only in case of conviction with a jail term of two years or above. In some cases, conviction can invite disqualification regardless of the duration of the jail term.
Justice B.A. Khan, a former chief justice of Jammu and Kashmir High Court, said: â€œArrest by itself does not lead
to disqualification from the membership of the House of legislature or House of Parliament.â€
Asked whether Mitra needed to resign from the cabinet, Justice Khan said: â€œThere is no legal bar on his continuance, though it depends upon the propriety attached to his continuance.â€
Is Mitra entitled to any special facilities when in custody?
Officials said: No, Mitra should be treated like any other undertrial. If there is a threat to the life of an undertrial, some special treatment is usually given.
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Fall of Didi's go-to man
All of that happened right under UPA government's nose and with it's approval. For some strange reason, they had a strong belief that they were coming back to power, that is why the US government was so late in courting Modi, may be they had started believing in their infallibility. I believe that the Indian Civil Society pulled a Pakistan on the US administration, US was milked by certain people, and before the US state department could realize the Green had already been consumed. I am sure that few central agencies knew everything and now the accumulated knowledge will be used to identify and destroy those Mir Zafars.
Let us not forget that the Yuvraj of Congress spends more time in LOndon than in India. Let us also find out the reasons behind Sonia Gandhi's frequent US trips. Some people say that the cases against her were registered in the US to humiliate her after she could not please the US administration.
I cannot say anything for sure on the prospects of BJP in 2019 but 5 years is a lot of time and if BJP does it's job well then even if a different government comes into power in 2019, it will be nothing like the UPA-2.
Mamata says "tmc will protest in parl".
Speaker should throw them out,important bills are pending!
She should and prove herself to be a greater idiot than she is.
No party, be it the Congress or the Left will support TMC.
It will be suicidal for the scam has deprived many a poor, who are seething, but a very effective vote bank to keep happy.
One wonders what the Quizmaster O'Brien will have to yap about in Parliament.
Even if India achieves GDP growth rate of 10%, and a trillion dollars of investment pour into the Indian economy, millions of jobs created, GDP per capita raised by $500, and Aksai Chin is recovered by defeating China in a war; BJP will still lose in 2019, if it does not facilitate the construction of Ram Mandir. That's the single reason why ABV lost power in 2004. If it does build the Mandir, even if each of the 1,798 other political parties unite to form one big party, BJP will still win.
Yesterday he was calling SC's ruling on forced conversion "draconian". Congress is speaking in multiple voices, it is one party which is failing to take a clear stand, CPM is gunning for Mamata.
However I suspect that BJP is going to gain much from Sharadha Scam. The opposition is divided (BJP, Congress, CPM). I have a feeling that TMC is actually going to use the recent events to it's advantage. The scam will take back-seat and TMC will cry Vendetta.
These statements like jail me, oust me, I'll face you in ballots etc talks volumes about her confidence in vote banks.
Thinking Bjp can show her the door in 2016 without strong organisational structure and leadership in WB is just wishful thinking imho. Anyone from WB can shed more light on this.
If CBI manages to nab her then the story will have an interesting twist
Nah godhar migh be one factore but it was allies which lost seats as well as loss of allies to contributed to their defeat
between congress and bjp there wasn`t much difference
congress was at 146 and bjp at 139
ram mandir forget untill all parties agrees its not going to happen even delhi sc order to construct wont happen and all parties wont agree .
atleast,they should do modify RTE discrimination,regulate flow of money to NGO's,UCC,anti-conversion,abolish state control of temples!
Not going to happen regulating money to ngo may hit political parties and also money follow to right wing ngo`s
UCC does ucc requires 2/3 parliament .even now they donot have RS majority
I donot see they going ahead with UCC because as you can see 2 stupid incidents have just derailed their economice agenda.gov is beginnig to oppistion in parliament ugc would uunite all oppisition parties
but i donot understand one thing why just pass bills when there making nosies as done in past
The Leftists took out a counter rally to the TMC.
Their slogans were:
1. One to three four/
Chor, chor, chor, chor
2. Chor dhorlo CBI/
Bhoy peylo Didibhai
(Thief got caught by the CBI
Frightened was Didibhai!)
Didibhai is a term of endearment for a Didi (elder sister).
ABV lost because not only did he not construct Ram Mandir, but he also went into apologist mode for Godhra, and dealt with the issue in the same one-sided way that the media wanted him to deal with it. Ram Mandir is a much bigger issue for the Indian Right than it's made out to be. Ayodhra would have been a bigger temple town than even Tirupati. Muslims got what they wanted in 1947 (Pakistan). Hindus didn't get what they wanted (restoration or compensation for the damage done to their culture and religion by Christians and Muslims). Secular Republic was a raw deal. The least that India could have given Hindus is their main temples restored. Ram Janmabhoomi is probably the most important Vaishovite spot. Even bigger than Krishnajanmaboomi of Mathura. India is preventing Hindus access to this site, despite Hindus being a majority of the population. Hindus have been thrown the constitution and law books at their face. Hindus throw BJP out of power not because they expect Congress to build Ram Mandir, but because throwing them out of power is seen as a punitive action. This is why Modi will have to take Ram Mandir seriously, if he wants to retain power in 2019. Otherwise, like I said before, even 10% GDP growth rate, trillions of dollars of investment, millions of new jobs, giant leaps in poverty alleviation, etc., won't win him 2019.
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