Sagarika Ghosh tries to clarify she's not really anti-national

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  1. Voldemort

    Voldemort Senior Member Senior Member

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    Dear India’s right-wingers, Your time has come, your moment is here. After the victory in the general elections, and the big win in Maharashtra and Haryana, the Indian Political Right is bang on centrestage. It is ascendant -and why should it not be? For a decade we Indians were at the receiving end of the subsidies-inclined, left-oriented UPA with its weird secularism, its dynastic inclinations, its vow of silence on every issue, not to mention its scam-a-minute way of life where the media, Anna Hazare and citizenry at large played bloodsport with the hapless Manmohan Singh government. You, the rightwing soldiers, so expertly harnessed these agitations to your cause. Now you rule social media. Across the world social media -whether challenging dictatorships in the Arab Spring or spreading awareness of police brutality against Iranian protesters -is generally the anti-establishment maverick, a realm where Assange and Snowden are icons, where dissenters blow the whistle on secret government machinations.

    But in India you have made social media a propaganda arm of the government. It is a ferocious army against anyone who disagrees with the ruling party , an engine of thought and social control that is harnessed firmly to the personality cult of the Prime Minister. To be pro-government and pro-establishment is now de rigeur on social media.

    You say this is a war -your very own jihad -against decades of apparent dominance by the “left“, where a handful of Oxbridge-educated, “left-liberal“ journalists, historians and activists created a Nehruvian discourse that was supposedly loyal to the previous government and upheld Congress-style secularism against the “nationalist“ urges of the majority .

    But since this is a democratic debate, since you have come to power through elections, why are you seeking to eliminate, shut down and silence all your critics and the entire opposition in general? This is not democracy! Any critic of this government is a “deshdrohi“; any hint of disagreement and you become an “anti-national traitor“ liable for sedition; any small critique means one is a “minorities-worshipping“, “sickular“ “libtard“, “communist“, “dynastic Congi slave“ who must instantly take up residence in Pakistan.


    Right-wingers, do remember that we, journalists and citizens, attacked the UPA on every primetime; we called out Rahul Gandhi for every gaffe; after the initial euphoria of “Singh is King“, Manmohan Singh was torn apart for everything from coal scam to 2G scam to CWG scam, but the UPA ‘s brigades never called its critics such foul names as you do.

    Why is debate not acceptable? Why is dissent not to be tolerated? Why are you transforming social media from an important debating platform into a cacophonous echo chamber of thought control? Let’s move to definitions. You call yourself rightwing, but are you? Rightwing in the US and Europe implies parties who are socially conservative on issues like abortion and gay rights but zealously uphold the free market and business. Now you may be socially conservative on Hindu-Muslim marriage and live-in relationships, but are you economically liberal? The government has not so far shown that it’s committed to privatization. The farthest it has gone is some disinvestment a la Congress. The government is against retail sector liberalization, it is not keen on free trade (as shown by its scuttling of the recent WTO round) and so far we do not know what its tax policy is. (As you may know, right-of-centre economics is based around lowering taxes on businesses.) The government believes in social engineering -such as the highly laudable Swachh Bharat initiative, but typical rightwing economics is less about measures and more about providing incentives.

    So why do you call your critics “leftist“ when you, and many elements in the Sangh, seem much closer to the economics of the left than of the right? Uma Bharti opposes Walmart, Mohan Bhagwat has called for a boycott of Chinese goods, the anti-MNC, swadeshi way of thinking is influential among many in the Sangh Parivar.Those “leftists“ critiquing the government are actually calling for the government to be more rightwing than it is. Basically , “rightwing“ for you seems to be about religion and nationalism and not really about economics.

    As a hallmark of achhe din, why has the space for debate suddenly become so restricted? Let’s throw the debate open. Let’s work for a more vibrant democratic order based on respect for pluralism and diversity . The right to free speech must fundamentally include the right to dissent. Yet your triumphalist intolerance offers too little space to express any contrarian view. The PM is indeed a dynamic and talented leader but, as time goes on, questions on policies and issues will inevitably arise.Let’s not shut down all questioning. Sanatan dharma has always stood for freedom of thought! Bharat mata ki jai!

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  3. Dovah

    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

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    Pagal ho gai hai.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    The original title of the article is: Letter to India’s Right: All critics aren’t leftists or ‘deshdrohis’

    I think she has made quite a few valid points in this blog. Playing the patriotism card is one way to silence opposition.

    Excerpt:
    Politics is not so black and white, except for some people, like Arun Shourie.
     
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    Ms Sagarika, what a turn around !! Desist from political activism ... it will be fine again...
     
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    nice article :thumb:. she does raise many valid points. we shouldnt just follow something blindly like bhakts. thinking rationally with an open mind will really take us miles.
     
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    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

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    For someone who opens her article with "Dear India’s right-wingers", she has no room to talk about labels (in the excerpt you quoted)

    Also, not to forget what they call their critics: Internet hindoos, chaddhiwala and now the latest, bhakts.

    The fact is, she is not looking for a debate as she says in the article. She is only jusifying 10 years of dishonesty from herself and her ilk now that they are being exposed. She wants to quell a very important aspect of the debate that is the vested interest that the supposedly free media has when it comes to social and economic policies.

    On the contrary, with social media, the debate has become more open. Or does she advocate making the discussion exclusive to her jholachaap friends in the editorial of communist newspapers?
     
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    Sites like below are the reason why news traders of late are frustrated and so keen to blog about everything :

    MediaCrooks

    All hail social media. :pound:
     
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    Sagarika Ghosh is a C5M - Category 5 moron, that's it.

    She made it big only because of her father's contacts. There are journalists who are 1000 times better than her.
     
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    NSG_Blackcats Member of The Month OCTOBER 2009 Senior Member

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    ^^
    As I said, she is a gadar chap journalist, only made it big for her father's contact. Her tweets are filled with hatred and filthy words. I follow MC from a long time. So these crooks are well known to me.

    Ravinar is doing a great job.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    This BITCH needs to be BITCH-slapped in public just like her brother Rajdeep experienced.

    Indian needs to get over the so called freedom of speech.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Pehle se hi thi.
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    When Hafeez Sayed talks about social service, it doesn't make social service bad. Social service remains a valid point.

    Similarly, when Sagarika makes these points, in spite of the points themselves being valid, irony dies a million deaths.

     
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    NSG_Blackcats Member of The Month OCTOBER 2009 Senior Member

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    Rajdeep is her husband not brother :namaste:
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    So, two can play this game.

    If Mr. Modi gets investment from PRC, an enemy country, would that make him a "deshdrohi?"

    One side is wrong does not make another side correct. A balanced view would say both sides engage in similar type of muck tossing, and isn't that an inherent part of journalism?

    As long as you agree that Sagarika's points are valid, you agree with my post.

    I know you said irony dies a million deaths, but that is merely a statement, not an argument, because, I just don't see how.

    She is also quite correct in her assessment that many policies of the Communist Parties closely match the policies of various leaders from the Sangh Parivar.

    Sagarika Ghose has far more credibility than Chandan Mitra, who is best described as a journalist the nation chooses to ignore, except once in a while.
     
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    how dare you not agree with usual other DFIans. be ready to be called anti - national, secular etc etc :lol:
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Brother as in ACTS.

    Both are brother sister in doing anti-national activities....SHAMELESS couple.
     
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    I am quite good at taking them all at once. Have done it for years. :)

    I think we all differ politically, but we all have the best interests of our nation at heart, and that is what matters at the end of the day.
     
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    Wow. China is not investing in Modi, China is investing in India. And I don't know how is it even related to the topic. Seems like a huge strawman on Ghoose's part.

    A balanced view of the past 10 years will lead to a conclusion that Ghose and Sardesai are not even fit to be a part of the debate.

    I reject all of the points that Sagarika made because she made the article her own own private rant vector.

    She doesn't know how to debate in an open environment, since she has been censoring her critics' view her whole career.

    Internet and anonymity make her uncomfortable because she feels powerless on fair grounds.

    There was a video of her manipulating a whole interview (with Sri Sri Ravisankar I think) and getting away with it, speaks volume of her itegrity. Not to mention her huband's recent drama in NY. These people are not joutrnalists, they are lobbyist and social engineers.
     

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