Sabarimala stampede toll reaches 104

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    Sabarimala stampede toll reaches 104

    The toll in the stampede near Kerala's famed Sabarimala temple climbed to 104 on Saturday as more bodies and the injured continued to be brought to hospitals in the area. The stampede occurred around 8.00pm on Friday when the pilgrims were returning after watching the celestial Makara Jyothi light,


    the most important event of the pilgrimage, from a hillock some 30 km from the Sabarimala temple.

    The tragedy took place in Pulumedu, a forested area about 10 km from the Vandiperiyar town, and about 30 km from the Sabarimala temple in Pathanamthitta district. At least 60 people have sustained injuries.

    Most of the bodies and the injured have been brought to the Kumily government hospital.

    State finance minister Thomas Isaac reached the hospital in the morning and said that the state government will meet the expenses for treating the injured even if they have been admitted to private hospitals in Idukki and Kottayam districts.

    "A thorough investigation will be done and the state government will meet all the expenses for transporting the bodies to their homes. As the first step, a sum of Rs 5,000 to the injured has been sanctioned," said Isaac.

    Issac said that a crime branch probe would be conducted to know the exact case of the tragedy.

    The government would bear the expenses of those injured in the tragedy.

    Issac, who is camping at at Vandiperiyar said bodies of those killed in the tragedy would be taken to their respective states by the state government after post mortem.

    Issac added he did not rule out the possibility of the death toll increasing later in the day.

    The expenses of those injured who were admitted to various private hospitals also would be met by the government. The government would officially communicate this matter to all the private hospitals in the area, Issac said.

    The bodies were first brought to the Vandiperiyar government hospital and from there it was moved to the hospital in Kumily.

    "Around 43 bodies have been identified so far and a majority of the dead are from nearby states of Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Karnataka," said senior Congress leader E M Augusthy.

    State DGP Jacob Punnoose confirmed the death toll as 102.

    "We have recovered all bodies by rescue work conducted overnight despite heavy mist and the remoteness of the hilly terrain," he said.

    The tragedy occurred when a jeep carrying pilgrims ran into a crowd and fell to the ground, killing some of the people on the spot and paving the way for the stampede, rescuers said.

    Relatives of pilgrims from Tamil Nadu, who have not returned home, have arrived here to look for them, he said, adding that photographs and particulars of the dead will be made available to the relatives to help them locate their dear ones.

    Speaking about the injured, Punnoose said the number of injured is quite few because they were evacuated first and were admitted to a hospital in Tamil Nadu.

    Some others have also received minor injuries.

    Meanwhile, Kerala chief minister V S Achuthanandan, who is at Kannur to attend official functions, has cancelled his programmes and was on his way to the accident site, official sources said.
     
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    May the souls of those killed R.I.P!
     
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    This tragedy was bound t happen one these days,facilities for accommodating the lakhs of Ayyappa devotees,which keeps surging every year,is generally pathetic and at time completely non existent.For the hundreds of Crores of rupees the temple earns for the govt coffers,very little goes to developing pilgrimage centers or into making the pilgrim centers safe during the last day of the pilgrimage,when it becomes so hectic.
     
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    Kerala Govt put 3 cops on duty for 3 lakh pilgrims

    :frusty::angry_3::angry_7:

    MORE READ HERE ->Kerala Govt put 3 cops on duty for 3 lakh pilgrims


    NOW WHY DOES GOVERNMENT DOESN`T PROVIDES ENOUGH FACILITIES WHEN THEY EARN ENOUGH REVENUE

    I THINK some things FISHy THERE AS WE know state governemnts like to play compensatition politics also. kerala is going to have election and communist party running government there is in bad shape this days so indirectly trying to wooe particular segment of people there
     
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    Facilities can only be provided if and when any money is left in the Shabarimala's temple coffers,the money earned from Hindu temples goes to pay all govt programs from various religious subsidies to non Hindus to the salary of govt employees.All pilgrimage arrangement's at the Shabarimala takes place on the eve of the mandala kalam,from flood lighting to road repair works, to the pilgrim shelters in the sannidhanam.why wouldn't such a tragedy happen.
     
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    So sad that all these people die. Reminds me of the tragedy on the Cambodian bridge. It should become some kind of law that people not gather so tightly without proper emergency exits.
     
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    They thought GOD would share the duties along with those 3 cops.
     
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    It is not a case of facilities or money. Safety is not given the importance that it ought to deserve. India is spending billions on security, yet police reforms and safety issues languish. Stampedes, deaths due to negligence, deaths due to substandard facilities are all because not enough attention is paid to the safety of the citizens.
    After 26/11 GoI has spent billions in beefing up security, yet inspite of 100s of stampedes the GoI has not spent even millions in beefing up safety.

    Why am I not surprised to see this ? SATAji dont' blame non-Hindus for everything and anything, its getting a bit repetitive and ridiculous.

    I bet a big chunk of money deposited in the "Hindu Temples" is misappropriated by the Priests/Brahmins, and then whatever is officially noted is spent largely on Hindus, because Hindus make up 80% of the population.

    I would love to see statistics to suggest that Non-Hindus are benefiting in a large degree from Hindu offerings in their own temples. And its because of that money that is spent on Non-Hindus that the Government is unavailable to take the safety of its citizens seriously.

    Safety ought to be paramount.
     
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    Iam not blaming Non Hindus for the tragedy nor do i grieve on the fact that money(100 Crore by some estimates)earned from devout Hindu pilgrims goes for all kind of secular progarmmes,since we believe in Vasudaiva Kutumbkam,but let the govt spend the money first on basic and permanent facilities that provides some assurance.Can you imagine one of India's foremost spot of Pilgrimage,which by some estimate receives some 8-10 million devotees(a large number of children among them)between November-January has no decent Hospital to cater to the needs of this kind of demographic.Many of the victims at Pulmedu had to rushed to hospitals which were at a distance of 100KMS or more for treatment.

    Brahmans and tantri's dont steal Ayyappa's money,thanks to govts determined effort not leave behind a single paisa earned at Shabarimala,the govt administered Devaswom board,its said, ensures those involved in counting at the temple don't wear full clothes while they are in the counting centers,in case they walk away with money secreted in folds between the govt.Govt is very carfull with Temple money,they are only careless with the devotees lives.

    This kind of tragedy is not fro the first time,this has happened in the past too,when 50 odd lives were lost when a piece of land caved in where devotees had gathered to witness the Makara Jyothi.
     
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    Is that supposed to be some crack on the Christians of Kerala?
     
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    That is the problem in almost all South Indian Temples.

    Temple revenue going to the Government coffers and precious little being spent actually on the temple !

    Believe me what SATA said is exactly what is happening in South Indian Temples. (No idea of North India).

    Here the temples are under government control and there is a separate ministry for that - yes separate ministry for temples upkeep.

    And as a result all the temple revenue (offereings, revenue from temple land etc) are all appropriated by the government which is then supposed to spend them wisely on the upkeep of the temple.

    But what actually happens is the revenue is grossly mis-used for other purposes (Haj subsidy being one) and the supposed actual beneficiaries actually get very little of their own money.

    Almost all the existing developmental work is done by concerned,well-to-do devotees and not by the government.

    And in this context, what SATA said is extremely pertinent and what you said doesnt exactly reflect reality.
     
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    @Karthic Sri & @SATA

    You guys still don't get my point. Money, personal beliefs and management of temples is irrelevant to the issue.

    The state of police, the state of govt hospitals, the infrastructure all portend the sheer lack of concerns on the part of the Government.

    Governments duty is to provide safety irrespective. It is the fault of the people who don't make this an election issue.

    After Parliament attack and 26/11 billions of dollars were spent on security of the state, why can't same attitude be adopted to safety and wellbeing of the citizens after such sad incidents ?
     
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    1. Haj Subsidy is provided by Central Govt and not State Govt
    2. Haj Subsidy actually keeps Air India afloat. So it may appear to be Muslim Appeasement ostensibly but its not all that.

    I don't know where I was wrong ? Safety of devotees and proper medicalcare is not a temple management issue but government's headache.

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    Lets keep our focus on the tragic incident and the irresponsible behaviour of the state, and not bring in Haj Subsidies and how State Governments do nothing for the development of the South Indian Temples under their control.
     
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    It was on the establishment Mr.
     
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    I have been to Sabarimala many a times. This was a clear mismanagement of the Devosam Board. The temple generates huge revenue each year but the management dont use it properly. If someone has to be blamed its the Board and the Kerala Govt.
     
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    It is all the same tax money, Sir

    This by far is THE lamest excuse I have heard either in defence of the Haj subsidy or the corrupt babus at the helm of AI.

    You did not gt it wrong, Nor did I.

    When the Kerala Govt had adequate time and energy to erase the "Swamy Saranam" and the image of Swamy Iyyappan on the tickets issued on the Government buses plying to Sabarimala because they were not secular and OTOH it did not provide adequate facilities to the devoteees, then it is the disctinct apathy of the Government tat is on display.
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    The focus is very much on topic - which by the way is the inability of the State government to provide adequate facilities to the bhakths.
     
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    It has to be the Kerala Govt. Plain and simple.

    The Devaswom board is under the control of the Govt.
     
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    You said money earned from Temples used to finance Haj trips. I countered and said its not the Temple donations collected by State Govt but Central Govt funded subsidy. And this is what you come up with ?

    And I wasn't defending anyone on Haj subsidy just pointing out the frivolousness of even bringing up Haj subsidies.

    Thank you for reinforcing the point I made, it is the governments duty to ensure the safety of its citizens irrespective.
    Even if the board was under private control and was generating no revenue, the onus of the safety of the devotees would've still lied with the Government.
     
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    There is no autonomous temple management here,Govt is the temple management.Seriously why does a avowedly secular state want to manage Hindu temples,doesn't it violate the sacrosanct principles of keeping the state and temple separate.
     
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