Sabah stand-off spill over: PH hackers vs Malaysian hackers

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  1. amoy

    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Sabah stand-off spill over: PH hackers vs Malaysian hackers | Manila Channel | Philippine and OFW News

    @asianobserve wow Cyber War at its height. Shall Chinese join the cat fight?

    These ASEAN peers are combating one another now. Philippines claims much of the eastern part of Sabah in Malaysia. Shall China mediate for regional peace?

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  3. asianobserve

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    China better stay out of it.

    It's between feuding brothers. Anyway, the Sabah standoff is not officially sanctioned by the Government of the Philippines, in fact Mr. Aquino has personally assured PM that he is doing everything he can to defuse the situation. The Philippine Government does not course its claims through the SUltanate of Sulu. They (Philippines) consider their Republic as the heir of the Sultanate and that the latter is no longer recognised under their current Costitution.

    This weird latest incident is the brainchild of an obscure heir to the Sutanate of Sulu who claims that Sabah belongs to their Sultanate (not really the Philippines, so you can understand the feeling of Mr. Aquino). And to further complicate matters that guy claiming to be the Sultan is not recognised by his siblings back in the Philippines since one of them claims he is the true Sultan.

    BTW, I'm not a part of that cyber childishness. It will come to pass.
     
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    China mediate? Ohimalaya, please come back. Amoy sounds more like a retarded cousin.
     
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    That's the problem of our muslim brothers they never listen to us and blame us if something goes wrong i hope they just go home already and let the UN Malaysia and the Philippines solve this issue once in for all so nothing like this will ever happen again.

    Respect and salute for the lose lives :philippines
     
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    Malaysia launches attack on Filipino intruders in Borneo

    (CNN) -- Malaysian fighter jets and soldiers on Tuesday waged an offensive against a group of armed invaders from the Philippines, who have staked a claim to a remote part of the island of Borneo, authorities said. Previous efforts by Malaysian police to turn the men back had ended in deadly clashes.

    The group of Filipino men, believed to number between 100 and 300, arrived three weeks ago on the east coast of the Malaysian state of Sabah, on Borneo, demanding to be recognized as representatives of a sultanate that used to rule the area.Malaysian authorities initially tried to persuade the men to return peacefully to their homes in the nearby southern Philippines. But the intruders refused to budge, and the standoff turned violent in recent days as clashes in the region reportedly left nine Malaysian police officers and 19 intruders dead.

    "Our security forces were attacked and killed. Malaysians, particularly those in Sabah, are worried about their safety," Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said in a statement carried by the national news agency Bernama announcing the offensive Tuesday.

    The standoff has touched on an unresolved territorial issue between the Philippines and Malaysia, as well as Manila's efforts to improve relations with Islamic insurgents in the country's south after decades of violence.The Malaysian operation Tuesday morning in Lahad Datu, the district in Sabah where the Filipino men had come ashore, involved an air raid by F-18 and Hawk fighter jets followed by mortar fire and a ground assault by soldiers, Bernama reported.The security forces "achieved their objective," the news agency cited Tan Sri Ismail Omar, the head of the Malaysian Police, as saying without elaborating on what exactly the goal had been.No members of the Malaysian forces were hurt in the attack, and the casualties on the Filipino side had yet to be determined, he said.But representatives of the Filipino group didn't report any initial losses from the offensive, saying the Malaysian jets had dropped bombs at a location they had occupied previously.

    The Filipino men have called themselves the Royal Army of the Sultanate of Sulu, a former Islamic power in the region that once controlled parts of the Philippines and Borneo. Its influence has since faded, and it is now a clan in the poor, restive southern Philippines.Established in the 15th century, the Sultanate of Sulu became an Islamic power center in Southeast Asia that at one point ruled Sabah.

    The sultanate's leadership has been riven by internal power struggles in recent decades, but the squabbling family members appear to have united in the decision to send their followers to Sabah, a move that has alarmed Malaysians and complicated efforts by the Philippines to pursue peace talks with Muslim rebels in its southern islands.Abraham Idjirani, a spokesman for one of the sultanate's leaders in Manila, said the armed the Filipino men reported hearing shots being fired nearby, but had so far suffered no casualties.

    Idjirani blamed Malaysian authorities for the escalation of the standoff, saying they had fired the first shots in the clash that took place between the two sides on Friday. He added that a woman and family members of Sabah residents had been killed in that skirmish.He also claimed that other people in the region were joining the sultanate's followers in the fight against the Malaysian forces but was unable to provide details."We don't know who they are, but they are there," he said.Since the crisis began, Philippine authorities have urged the sultanate's followers to lay down their arms and return home.

    "From the very start, our objective has been to avoid the loss of lives and the shedding of blood," President Benigno Aquino III said at the weekend. "If you have grievances, the path you chose was wrong. The just, and indeed, the only correct thing for you to do is to surrender."

    The Sabah standoff has its roots in a recent landmark peace deal between Manila and Muslim rebels, according to Julkipli Wadi, the dean of the Institute of Islamic Studies at the University of the Philippines.

    The members of the sultanate's royal family seem to have felt isolated by the provisional accord signed in October by the Philippine government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, which has fought for decades to establish an independent Islamic state in southern Philippines, Wadi said last month.The sultanate has succeeded in grabbing the attention of Philippine and Malaysian authorities. But the resulting violence makes the outcome of the situation unclear.

    But the encroachment of Western colonial powers, followed by the emergence of the Philippines and Malaysia as independent nation states, steadily eroded the sultanate's power, according to Wadi.It became "a sultanate without a kingdom" to rule over, he said. Sulu is now a province within the Republic of the Philippines.The economic, cultural and historical links between Sabah and the nearby Philippines islands, as well as the porous nature of the border between the two, means that many of the sultanate's followers have friends and relatives in Lahad Datu.

    And the historical connection still fuels tensions between Malaysia and the Philippines, with Manila retaining a "dormant claim" to Sabah through the Sultanate of Sulu, according to the CIA World Factbook.
    The Philippines claims much of the eastern part of Sabah, which was leased to the British North Borneo Company in 1878 by the Sultanate of Sulu. In 1963, Britain transferred Sabah to Malaysia, a move that the sultanate claimed was a breach of the 1878 deal.Malaysia still pays a token rent to the sultanate for the lease of Sabah.
     
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    china meditate? haha. who do you think china is anyway?
    china should stay out of this
     
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    Moro Islamic Liberation, Sulu Sultanate, are entitled to self determination. Insallah!!

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    Like Tibet?
     
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    Tibet is not islamic. Maybe you should read more.
     
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    "Self-determination" is mentioned there. Maybe you should read first all the previous comments to understand the conversation before you say anything...
     
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    Self-determination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The right of nations to self-determination (from German: Selbstbestimmungsrecht der Völker), or in short form, the right to self-determination is the cardinal principle in modern international law principles of international law (jus cogens), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter’s norms.

    Or maybe you need to learn what those words means and their context first.
     
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    So there you go please set them free and while your at it please let go of Taiwan Inner Mongolia and Uyger region and stop claiming other peoples territory or at less come to the UN to settle things? and decommission all your nukes and your Aircraft carrier and stop all the plans to make more and lower your military spending and military size and uplift your people instead and stop supporting North Korea and Iran and help the people to free from them and stop supporting commie terrorist movements in the Philippines and India and other places your people are sending money and weapons to them.

    And please we already sign a peace deal with the MILF and the MNLF (which are now part of the local governments in ARMM) so your stupid and your whole call is stupid so your super stupid and that's why you can't go to court the Philippines is a shoe in to win on the courts! so B#$^* please!
     
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    So? I don't have other definition of self-determination. I'm telling you the Tibet issue is the closes analogy you have to the Muslim issue in the Philippines. Philippines' Muslims and Tibetans can be defined as nations.
     
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    Only in your delusional mind. Even your own country recognize Tibet as part of China.

    Only a twisted mind will bring Tibet in a topic about a stand off between PH and Malaysian.
     
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    Malaysian Troops Kill 31 Filipinos and Reject Talks

    Source: Malaysian Troops Kill 31 Filipinos and Reject Talks
     
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    PH is neither as tough as Malaysia, nor smart as Malaysia.
    better give it to court too.
     
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    Please you -----s are idiots the Philippines has nothing to do with the Sabah incursion its the Tausugs they been acting on their own we do claim sabah but unlike the evil chinese nazi empire we don't use force this people on the other hand do they think violence solves everything.
     
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    Oh please you don't even know what's going on your just here to troll if you believe what you have said then let go of tibet and the other occupied lands that you evil people have under your evil rule and stop claiming waters and territories that does not belong to your evil empire!
     

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