SAARC Tanks: No Agreements Signed After Pakistan's Objections

[Nicky G]

Countries can gang up even without SAARC. SAARC is not a platform for anti-India activities. SAARC is a platform for economic integration of South Asia.

We need to continue dialog with other South Asian countries as well as China. China is already there in South Asia. We cannot wish away Chinese presence.

We always have to look at the big picture. Shutting borders is not an effective way of achieving security.

They can certainly gang-up otherwise, though the opportunity for such will be by default lower if India were to deal with them on a bi-lateral basis as opposed to a multi-national platform.

I am all for dialog, with south-Asian countries as well as China. My point was merely regarding the platform for such dialogs.

As for China, we cannot wish their presence away but we can certainly block their entry into SAARC for as long as we wish unless we gain something of equal measure from the Chinese in return, whatever that may be.

Again, I did not call for shutting the borders, merely being vigilant.

 

[santosh10]

Growing economy brings growth in literacy, employment, awareness etc etc it gives strength to kick out these bas**** out of India.

its not 18th century that countries can be colonized, neither its 1944 that only US can use nuclear weapons. we have to many weapons in world which may even destroy this planet many times, and we all have to live on this earth, we all know this......

we have knowledge, people, resources, and experience the key, and these hurdles are nothing but it all bring further valuable experience, which will definitely help the next generation to have better preparation for their defence, for the society as whole

 

[santosh10]

Countries can gang up even without SAARC. SAARC is not a platform for anti-India activities.

you wrong

Pakistan+Bangladesh, as a highly Muslim population is a threat/design for anti-India activities/sentiments, because of very high Islamic Fanatic population.

and we have to defend ourselves on the border, check any increase in people to people connectivity between our people with these two rogue neighbors of India :thumb:

we don't believe in SAARC, expect burden on our border, because of our geographical conditions



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India needs to cultivate sane voices while taking action against violent elements. Again this is not as easy as it sounds but India will need to have access to Bangladesh.

Ultimately India will have to take action inside Bangladesh.

you are wrong again

we dont want any action in other countries, including Bangladesh, as we may defend our Indo-BD border with the resources available in our country, within :thumb:


we are well capable to destroy/eliminate any incoming threats to our people/society, and hence we need not to worry how this overly populated Muslim country deal with its internal problems, the Bangladesh. we simply aren't worried with others, except our international obligations

International Laws: as per the International laws, which favor to shoot down/destroy any incoming object/person coming towards the International border before reach at a certain distance, which doesn't stop after few warnings. as it may have destructive materials which may be harmful to the country, of concern. and once it reach a certain distance even after few warnings, the defending country is allowed to use whatever arms it has, to defend itself.

with that, we favor direct citizenship for the Bangladeshi and Pakistani people for US and its allies, if they want this in their country. but we dont want the shiits

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a long time we discussed, "if I would like to have neighbors of India then i would dream it to be located in South America, in the neighborhood of South American countries."

and whenever we have a look on the state of Pakistan and Bangladesh type overly populated Islamic Fanatic countries, and its consequences on India as whole, then i only remember the statement of a former Indian PM as below

"We can change history but not geography. We can change our friends but not our neighbors."
--Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee

youtube.com/watch?v=LQOghIetg3Q

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@santosh10, the Modi government is approaching each issue in a positive frame of mind. This is necessary as we live in a democracy where we have to bring people on-board. Our political system is different from China or Pakistan even.

India wants to focus on development and security at the same time while giving preference to development.

Mr Modi believes that fast developmnent of India is best recipe for increasing security of the State.

I think we cannot containerize India. It is not possible to seal India from neighboring States. If Bangladesh is in problem, that problem will spill over into India. It is necessary for India to have influence in Bangladesh, as well aid Bangladesh in its development.

India has to play big role in South Asia. There is no option.

We have to view China's developmental assistance positively (though there may be negative security aspects), as economic development of the region is net positive for India.

We cannot be obsessed with only security issues. This kind of policy simply does not work.

@Ray

Mr, we can defend ourselves, and destroy/remove every threats to our society. there are too many options

 

[santosh10]

India has to be ready to sacrifice a part of society for the good/Independence/respect of rest

Islamic Fanaticism by involvements of Bangladesh+Pakistan, is funded by Saudi Arabia and supported by US/UK

sir, time has come when we all have to be ready to sacrifice a part of our people, for the good/Independence/respect of rest of society.

we had first half of 20th century for fighting for Independence, then 50s/60s/70s for building rural infrastructure, and then 80s to last decade for Industrialization. while now we have the time of wars related to Religion/Race/Identity/Culture/Belief/Language etc, and here we may need valuable experience of 10th to 18th century of Religious wars, the key experience in this regard. :ranger:

Islamic Fanaticism in India is rising by the direct involvements of Pakistan+Bangladesh, funded by Saudi Arabia, and 'fully' supported by US/UK, with their 'belief' that, "Organizing Internal Conflicts among the people, 'divide and rule', would finally help them establish 'Commonwealth Rule' over Indian Subcontinent as whole."

an effort is in place to 'unite'/'more people to people connectivity among people of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh to have further conspiracies like how we find Indian Muzahidin like Azmal Kasab coming from India, with hindu type red stings on hands, who killed Mr Karkare, the Sanjhauta Express investigator too to give enough reasons for Hindu groups involvements in Mumbai attack. one person, Kasab, was caught otherwise Mumbai attack conspiracy was almost successful. and you won't have this type of luxury of getting someone like Azmal Kasab, 'alive' to prove that they were not qualified for representing 'Indian' Muzahidin, whether Hindu or Muslims..... and this type of people to people connectivity/uniting Pakistan+Bangladesh is a direct effort to fulfill the these intentions

i know many of Canada in Sikh Turbans who say they are Sikhs from Pakistan, while they are the Pakistani Muslims, in fact. we even know Indian Muzahidin came in light by the first bomb blasts during the IPL 2008, we never heard about this organization before. and now it has become the most serious terrorist organization working against India, the nation, at present. and the news we are getting confirms that Indian Muzahidin has very high rise in the North East and West Bengal region because of increased participants of Bangladeshi members. and hence having a control on the Bangladeshi infiltrators/ stopping them to come to India, in the key in this regard......

as a single man, i personally find this "Existential Threat" imposed on India, the nation, is 'totally' governed by the establishments of US/UK/Commonwealth, while the players of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bangladesh are just the toys. and hence we do need to have allies in this regard too. this is the "existential wars", the world is moving towards from now, and we need friends in this regard. and among them, we find our one of the closest Ally, Burma, who just had high level riots within, between Buddhist to Muslim from Bangladesh, on the other hand we have Iran+Iraq type Shia Majority countries, who may help us even wipe out Saudi Arabia as whole too, if required, even if we know that the main behind all these are the US/UK..... we may need a type of wars which may require, "leaving none taking breath in any certain region too", for the good/independence/respect, for the shake of our coming generation....

and we do expect to have help on this regard from the similar interested countries like Japan, China, Thailand, Vietnam etc type countries, as we do know that once we will move towards 'divide' on the name of Religion/Race/Culture/ Identity/Belief etc, we will get allies in this regard too, obviously. hence the black countries of Africa also may find themselves comfortable with us...

we have to be ready to sacrifice a part of us/ our people, for the good/respect/independence, of all. we are moving towards wars from now onward, and only war preparation we need in this regard. like, twice police, twice CRPF etc, twice expenditure on the Internal Security, with enough storage of WMDs may also be required in this regard. if Russia has over 10,000 nuclear weapons, not because they want to destroy the whole world 300-400 times, even 100-200 is enough to completely destroy this world, true. but they know the meaning of preparation. while im mainly concerned with an enough storage of chemical and biological weapons, which may help us 'clean up' few areas as whole, if required...

we are moving towards only wars form now onwards, for our people/freedom/independence/society/respect, to maintain dignity of our coming generation, and the "worthy cost" will be required in this regard

 

[santosh10]

I think instead of focusing on SAARC we should eiher carry out bi-laterally or through BIMSTEC (SAARC minus Pakistan , comprising Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Sri Lanka and Thailand )...

[firstpost.com/world/china-pak-problem-modi-must-put-saarc-back-burner-1825443]The China-Pak problem: PM Modi must put SAARC on the back burner[/URL]

this is a simple effort to help Bangladesh showing Pakistan not happy. this man Modi, isn't deserved to be trusted, duplicate person as whole or the corrupted mind, whatever, too many techs the US has developed and given it to its allies. we need to understand the common goals of the society as whole, and the biggest challenge imposed on India, the nation, the Bangladesh.

 

[santosh10]

Growing economy brings growth in literacy, employment, awareness etc etc it gives strength to kick out these bas**** out of India.

its not 18th century that countries can be colonized, neither its 1944 that only US can use nuclear weapons. we have too many weapons in world which may even destroy this planet many times, and we all have to live on this earth, we all know this......

we have knowledge, people, resources, and experience the key, and these hurdles are nothing but it all bring further valuable experience, which will definitely help the next generation to have better preparation for their defence, for the society as whole

 

[santosh10]

Abbottabad -- The military town where bin Laden hid in plain sight

CNN) -- One week ago, the chief of Pakistan's Army Staff, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, told graduating cadets in the city of Abbottabad that the "back of terrorism" in Pakistan had been broken, thanks to the sacrifices of Pakistan's soldiers.

Kayani was speaking at the "passing out parade" at the prestigious Kakul military academy in Abbottabad, the West Point of Pakistan. At that very moment, the man who had dragged Pakistan into the "War on Terror" a decade earlier was, it transpires, just a mile or two away, living in apparent comfort behind the high walls of a very private compound. Osama bin Laden, who had declared war on Pakistan, had apparently been living for months in a city that had made its name as a military garrison.

Abbottabad, pronounced AHB-tah-bahd, is some 60 miles by winding mountainous roads north of Pakistan's capital. Surrounded by green hills, it is renowned for its trees and parks. It's a popular retirement place for officers in the Pakistani army, partly because of its military academy, but also because of its agreeable climate. During British rule, the Imperial Gazeteer of India described it as "picturesquely situated," 4,120 feet above sea level.

Abbottabad sits on the Karakoram Highway, an engineering marvel that links Pakistan with China through the Himalayas. Before much of Pakistan became off-limits to most foreign tourists, it was also a popular spot for those on their way to and from the Swat valley and the foothills of the Himalayas.

//edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/bin.laden.abbottabad/

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//defenceforumindia.com/forum/foreign-relations/65371-saarc-tanks-no-agreements-signed-after-pakistans-objections.html

SAARC Tanks: No Agreements Signed After Pakistan's Objections

Why Pakistan will have constipation if SAARC countries will be better connected?

The blot of South Asia a minion state of China suffering from poly-master abuse Pakistan has been deliberately making SAARC ineffectual and dysfunctional so that it can justify entry of China in the group.

Now it should be clear to all those lotus eater hallucinating Indians like Mani Shankar et al that stable Pakistan is not in our interest.

//defenceforumindia.com/forum/foreign-relations/65371-saarc-tanks-no-agreements-signed-after-pakistans-objections.html


"Uniting" Pakistan and Bangladesh will result in a thorough destruction of India

increased people to people connectivity with Pakistan+Bangladesh will Destabilize India

here, we do know how partition of India occurred in 1947, and how India always face increase in Islamic Terrorism from these 2 neighbours of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. then how do we get this type of news? over 1,000,000 deaths occurred due to Hindu-Muslim-Sikh riots, mainly because of aggressive Muslims based in Pakistani Punjab and Bangladesh regions, who are now separate countries as Pakistan and Bangladesh now....

we have news of growing activities of Indian Muzahidin in north east region due to increased Islamic fanaticism from Bangladesh, very frequent. and the way population of these two countries have been increased to 200million and 180million respectively, minorities of these two neighbours are almost gone, only Shia-Sunni-Ahmadi riots in Pakistan is the news now, while united Bengali Muslims against its minorities is also discussed in the thread as below..... then, how do we see this type of news?

//defenceforumindia.com/forum/internal-security/63875-bangladeshi-criminal-gangs-new-challenge-delhi-police-4.html

i never trust this Modi, who always look like either a duplicate man or a man with corrupted mind to work in behalf of rouge neighbours, who might have full support from US in this regard too. most probably a Bangladeshi spy, i think.....


Pakistani Secularism

yesterday i read a news of Ms Hina Rabbani Khan while talking about secularism of Pakistan and while giving reference of raid of Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan, i discussed few questions as below:-

1st: is Pakistan a country who would be informed by the US's marine for the above operation? they just made a stealthy raid for the hunt of Osama Bin Laden. why? and its a common sense for the whole world....

2nd: Pakistan's foreign minister talks about secularism about the country, Pakistan, while is there any country of world who is surprised if OBL is found near Pakistani Military Camp? do you think someone from rest of the world would be surprised on this type of news, why OBL was found enjoying luxury life in a military town of Pakistan?

3rd: and if its informer was sent on life imprisonment for spying of OBL by the Pakistani Judiciary, is it something unusual where OBL was regarded as a God's man, message of Islam, while he was the most wanted terrorist for rest of the world? its a quite usual news while reading about the Blasphemy law in Pakistan, to target minorities there....
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Pakistan

4th; minorities of Pakistan are almost gone, only Shia-Sunni-Ahmadi riots in Pakistan is in news now. on the other hand, population of Hindus in Bangladesh have been reduced from 30% in 1947 to below 10% at present, continuous attacks on the Buddhist+Hindus minorities there is also a news, very frequent.
while on the other hand, population of Hindus in India reduced from 88% in 1947 to below 80% at present, which does state about the "secularism" structure of India as whole, a 'non-religious' country....

5th: how many terrorist plots being planned in world, which aren't linked with Pakistan? i mean, is there any terrorist plots against any part of world, whether US or UK or even Xinjiang state of China, including India, which isn't linked with Pakistan? and here, are the people of world get surprised if we always find someone from Pakistan arrested for these plots?

6th; with these facts, only threats we find in India, for the way these two rogue neighbors have changed their way of practice. "Indian" Muzahidin like Azmal Kasab coming from Pakistan, with Hindu type Red Stings on hands, is now the biggest challenge imposed on India, the nation. how to tackle this type of 'Indian' Muzahidin Hindus coming from Pakistan+Bangladesh? while growing activities of Indian Muzahidin in North East region, because of the Bangladeshi infiltrators there, is also very frequent...


from here, why is it wrong if we talk to defend India from these two rogue neighbors of India? how would we allow these Islamic fanatic people in India, who will only try to do the same in India, which they have done in Pakistan+Bangladesh? why would there be any reason for destruction of India, the nation, whether its secularism of whatever?
@Ray
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[santosh10]

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On What Ground US/UK helping India's Enemies to Establish a Commonwealth Rule here?

here i think my posts as below may also have a place. discussing, why exactly US/UK think they would help enemies of India, the Saudi+Pakistan+Bangladesh, but we won't try to attack on them too?

why would they always dig our grave as "friends", and we have to remain their friends?

and Im among the Indians, who always sideline with Russia for the following reasons :tup:

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Russia's Multipolar World Vs US's World Government

Efforts to Establish a "BALANCE" in world

Further to the above discussion, today i was making a clear difference between my side with Russia, against the US's World Government, which wants to rule the world, but it doesn't share the "Equal Voting Rights" with those rest of the world including Indians, on whom the leaders of those 310million US's civilians want to 'Rule'......

the government of US, backed by EU, want to form that World Government which doesn't have "equal" voting rights with Indians in their parliamentary election, but they want to have every interference in India, to serve those US's civilians who have their leaders like Mr B.Obama......

and at the same time we have Russia on the other side, which favor Multi-Polar World, and support India and China both. we find Indian members making noise when Russia is going to sell its best Su35 aircraft to China, while the same type of noise we hear from Chinese members also when Russia not only sell its best arms to India, but it also comes with full technology transfer to India.........

and its all about dealing with two sides of politics of world. one about the US's World Government, which doesn't share "equal" voting rights in their general election by rest of the world like India, while the Russia on other side which favor 'equal' rights for Every Government on the world platform......

and one day i also reminded that, even if China and Vietnam have conflicts on oil search, then its not because Chinese communists are trying for their own pockets while Indians are trying for the democratic people of whole world. but whether China or Vietnam+India, both of these groups are trying to secure best stake in that area for good of their own people, who elected their leaders in these 3 countries to secure common interests of the people belonging to their countries.........

Neither US itself will share its Oil/Gas/Mineral resources with Indian Tax Payers, nor US's Tax Payers will share subsidy burden of Indian Middle Class, which provides hefty subsidy for the people below poverty line in India. and its equally foolish to think that US's Tax Payers would share any Infrastructure spending in India, to reduce its burden from the Indian Tax Payers. If a country is good, have better infrastructure/more resources etc, it will benefit only the people based in that certain country, whether India or US..... :ranger:

here, i also remember my one talk with few senior Russians in Sydney, when one senior once said that, "we would learn Chinese language, Mandarin, now." and i asked with surprise, "Chinese language?" and he said, "yes Chinese." and it again gave me a straight meaning from my Chinese friends from Malaysia+Singapore, that, "English is sign of our colonization..."

and yes, neither English is home language of India nor US Dollar is Indian currency, but if we may have Yuan as a world currency and Mandarin as a world language for the next 20 years, say, then it will definitely help us to maintain a "BALANCE" in this world, which is quite important :thumb:

=> [articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-05-14/news/39256081_1_language-course-mandarin-spoken-chinese]IIMs' tryst with Chinese: Mandarin emerges as popular course at B-schools - Economic Times

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According to the notice dated April 26, the group receives foreign funding and participates in "political activities" through carrying out projects aimed at "overcoming totalitarian stereotypes by influencing public opinion with awareness-raising activities, facilitating the establishment of the rule of law by informing citizens about constitutional norms, ensuring the priority of individual rights in state practices and public life by remembrance of terror victims in the past and defending the rights of citizens in the present, as well as countering violent, unlawful, totalitarian ways of ruling the state by organizing public events (rallies, exhibitions, etc.)."

[hrw.org/news/2014/08/29/russia-foreign-agents-law-hits-hundreds-ngos-updated-august-29-2014

the above statement of the article is fit with my experience too. those who want to interfere in India believe,

"if they may buy General Manager of a firm, then they have got the whole firm this way."

"if you may buy those who have influence on the society, then you may control the whole society somehow/ someway."

"to handle Fate of the people of a country, if you may buy all those people who own high positions/ have proper influence on the society then this way you have got a level of control on that certain country this way."

and hence, i have made my above post in this thread, with demanding, "only those can handle fate of a society/ country, who are elected by that certain society. hence, until Mr B.Obama ensures 'equal' voting rights for the common Indian citizens in the general election of USA, he can't interfere in the internal matters of India."

US's Gun Point Democracy

and this is what i discussed with my American and British friends both, "having 50%+ voting in UK/US parliament doesn't mean that you may interfere in those states of world like India where you don't share 'equal' voting right."

and then things become more serious when we find them having "Gun Point Democracy", to do whatever they want to do in other countries, just because they have 50%+ votes for their leaders in US's/UK's election, to do so in other parts of the world who don't have "equal" voting right for their civilians in American/British parliamentary election.

how democracy is discussed without "Freedom of Speech"? how this "Gun Point Democracy" is justified this way?

 

[brational]

The thread has gone for a toss.
The feeling is like, you are reading comments on a current affair and suddenly there is a long post on MAKE MONEY FROM HOME

 

[santosh10]

The thread has gone for a toss.
The feeling is like, you are reading comments on a current affair and suddenly there is a long post on MAKE MONEY FROM HOME

here, the International Laws is the key to handle the Bangladeshi Infiltration issue :ranger:


=> International Laws: as per the International laws, which favor to shoot down/destroy any incoming object/person coming towards the International border before it reach a certain distance, which doesn't stop after few warnings. as it may have destructive materials which may be harmful to the country, of concern. and once it reach a certain distance even after few warnings, the defending country is allowed to use whatever arms it has, to defend itself.
and yes, we as a nation can well destroy/remove any incoming threats to our society

with that, we favor direct citizenship for the Bangladeshi and Pakistani people for US and its allies, if they want this in their country. but we dont want the shiits

 

[santosh10]

IM growing stronger in northeast, Bangladesh

NEW DELHI: Even as National Investigation Agency (NIA) has linked the Bodh Gaya blasts to Assam, intelligence agencies have found that Indian Mujahideen (IM) may have grown strong footprints in the north-east and Bangladesh. In fact, agencies have credible information that IM played a significant role in providing relief to displaced Muslims in the June 2012 Bodo-Muslim riots in Assam. :ranger:

Sources said during the 2012 strife, IM operatives used the network of certain mosques to mobilize funds from across the Hindi heartland and certain other areas to Assam to help victims from the minority community.

"There are reports of them having developed contacts with some religious groups in Assam and their activity has been significant in areas such as Dhubri. They have also developed footprints in Sylhet region of Bangladesh and are suspected to have developed pockets of influence in Myanmar-Bangladesh border region through LeT," said an intelligence official. :ranger:

"The objective of participating in relief operations in Assam seemed to be aimed at creation of an IM constitution and radicalization of Muslim youth at the wrong end of justice in the state," he added.

Notably, NIA investigations have found that the Lotus brand clocks used in the Bodh Gaya blasts were bought from a shop in Assam. Investigations also point out that these clocks were bought about a year before the blasts. That was precisely the time that riots broke out in Assam and relief operations were underway.

Arrested IM operatives Syed Maqbool and Imran Khan had revealed to investigating agencies in October last year that Bodh Gaya was one of the targets of IM to avenge atrocities on Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar. Though these developments point to an IM hand behind the July 7 blasts in Bodh Gaya, agencies say it could be a confluence of different forces including disaffected Rohingya Muslim groups which have been on the radar of groups such as LeT for recruitment.

Significantly, the Rakhine Buddhist-Rohingya Muslim confrontation of last year, which has been the trigger for a larger Buddhist-Muslim confrontation in several parts of Asia, had coincided with the Bodo-Muslim confrontation in lower Assam.

Intelligence agencies had then expressed fear that Rohingya refugees could add another insurgency to an already volatile mix of Assam. It was also said that the outflow of Rohingya refugees could lead to stronger contacts between Myanmar Muslims and regional Islamist militants. Such militants could recruit disaffected Rohingyas to their own cause.

"It is difficult to pinpoint any group at the moment as several forces have motive to harm Buddhists or their symbols. Though we have found that 13 clocks were bought from a shop in Assam, we cannot yet be sure if they were the same clocks used in the 13 bombs placed in the Bodh Gaya temple complex. We have also found evidence of some 50 Lotus clocks bought from another place. Why would a bomber buy exactly 13 clocks for 13 bombs? Why not more for contingency," asked an NIA officer.

//timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/IM-growing-stronger-in-northeast-Bangladesh/articleshow/21608922.cms

IM growing stronger in northeast, Bangladesh - The Times of India

 

[santosh10]

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Crushing Sunni Fanaticism, may be of the similar fashion to the Rise of ISIS

with example of Burma's recent riots too

we have examples of Rise of ISIS and the recent riots of Burma, to get some of their key experience in regard to resisting Sunni Fanaticism. Burma is one of the closest friend of India, the largest foreign aid receipt of India too, and we know the things there which we may discuss later. while i would favor to start reading news of Rise of ISIS as below :thumb:

Iraq crisis: 'It is death valley. Up to 70 per cent of them are dead'

On board Iraqi army helicopter delivering aid to the trapped Yazidis, Jonathan Krohn sees a hellish sight

Mount Sinjar stinks of death. The few Yazidis who have managed to escape its clutches can tell you why. "Dogs were eating the bodies of the dead," said Haji Khedev Haydev, 65, who ran through the lines of Islamic State jihadists surrounding it

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11024037/Iraq-crisis-It-is-death-valley.-Up-to-70-per-cent-of-them-are-dead.html

An estimated $100m per year has flowed from donors from the Gulf to fund extremist groups in Pakistan and spread sectarian ideology - a massive sum especially for a developing country such as Pakistan and one which has been increasingly successful in subverting the heterodox and tolerant Islamic tradition which has historically been prevalent in the subcontinent.

"Donors in Saudi Arabia as the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide"¦ for groups aligned with Al-Qaida and focused on undermining stability in Afghanistan and Pakistan".

Children in particular, often pliable candidates for suicide bombings, have been specifically recruited for indoctrination with those "between the ages of 8 to 12" and whose families are "suffering extreme financial difficulties" being the most favoured targets of recruitment by sectarian extremist groups.

Many analysts have warned that Pakistani Shias increasingly face "sectarian cleansing" from the country if violence against them continues to accelerate, a fate which would be a tragic end to a community which for most of the Pakistan's history has lived in communal harmony with majority Sunnis and others within Pakistan's once-inclusive ethnic and religious tapestry.

aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/11/201211269131968565.html

Shocking image defines conflict

US Secretary of State John Kerry's description of The Australian's front-page photo of an Australian boy holding the severed head of a decapitated Syrian soldier as shocking shows how powerfully the image has resonated around the world.


Everyone knows what an evil group the Islamic State really is.

But this photograph, of a father, an Australian citizen, encouraging his son to hold a human being's severed head in exultant triumph, distils the essence of this group.

It is a single image that tells you everything you need to know about the Islamic State.

youtube.com/watch?v=nrmwB0bwtYQ

Missing schoolgirls converted to Islam: Boko Haram
May 12, 2014

Boko Haram released a new video on Monday claiming to show the missing Nigerian schoolgirls, alleging the teenagers had converted to Islam and would not be released until all militant prisoners were freed. :coffee:

The group's leader, Abubakar Shekau, speaks on the video obtained by AFP for 17 minutes before showing what he said were the girls, in Muslim dress and praying in an undisclosed rural location.

Pentagon calls Islamic State threat 'beyond anything we've seen'

US Defense Secretary said on Thursday that Islamic State militants could possibly pose an even bigger threat to the United States than Al-Qaeda, and pledged efforts to weaken the group would continue.

Speaking at a press conference at the Pentagon, Hagel also said that potential airstrikes in Syria are on the table, and defended the unsuccessful attempt by American Special Forces to rescue murdered photojournalist James Foley and other Western hostages. :coffee:

"[Islamic State militants] are an imminent threat to every interest we have, whether it's in Iraq or anywhere else," he said, as quoted by Reuters.

 

[santosh10]

double post

 

[Tshering22]

SAARC is becoming a useless forum with Pakistan included.

They always tank all the meetings with their imaginary issue based on some stupid dreams.

Bhutan, Nepal, SL and Afghanistan are fed up of this.

We need to connect these countries with trade, economic pacts.

We should move away from SAARC and engage in independent multi-lateral engagement.

 

[Tshering22]

IM growing stronger in northeast, Bangladesh

NEW DELHI: Even as National Investigation Agency (NIA) has linked the Bodh Gaya blasts to Assam, intelligence agencies have found that Indian Mujahideen (IM) may have grown strong footprints in the north-east and Bangladesh. In fact, agencies have credible information that IM played a significant role in providing relief to displaced Muslims in the June 2012 Bodo-Muslim riots in Assam. :ranger:

Sources said during the 2012 strife, IM operatives used the network of certain mosques to mobilize funds from across the Hindi heartland and certain other areas to Assam to help victims from the minority community.

"There are reports of them having developed contacts with some religious groups in Assam and their activity has been significant in areas such as Dhubri. They have also developed footprints in Sylhet region of Bangladesh and are suspected to have developed pockets of influence in Myanmar-Bangladesh border region through LeT," said an intelligence official. :ranger:

"The objective of participating in relief operations in Assam seemed to be aimed at creation of an IM constitution and radicalization of Muslim youth at the wrong end of justice in the state," he added.

Notably, NIA investigations have found that the Lotus brand clocks used in the Bodh Gaya blasts were bought from a shop in Assam. Investigations also point out that these clocks were bought about a year before the blasts. That was precisely the time that riots broke out in Assam and relief operations were underway.

Arrested IM operatives Syed Maqbool and Imran Khan had revealed to investigating agencies in October last year that Bodh Gaya was one of the targets of IM to avenge atrocities on Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar. Though these developments point to an IM hand behind the July 7 blasts in Bodh Gaya, agencies say it could be a confluence of different forces including disaffected Rohingya Muslim groups which have been on the radar of groups such as LeT for recruitment.

Significantly, the Rakhine Buddhist-Rohingya Muslim confrontation of last year, which has been the trigger for a larger Buddhist-Muslim confrontation in several parts of Asia, had coincided with the Bodo-Muslim confrontation in lower Assam.

Intelligence agencies had then expressed fear that Rohingya refugees could add another insurgency to an already volatile mix of Assam. It was also said that the outflow of Rohingya refugees could lead to stronger contacts between Myanmar Muslims and regional Islamist militants. Such militants could recruit disaffected Rohingyas to their own cause.

"It is difficult to pinpoint any group at the moment as several forces have motive to harm Buddhists or their symbols. Though we have found that 13 clocks were bought from a shop in Assam, we cannot yet be sure if they were the same clocks used in the 13 bombs placed in the Bodh Gaya temple complex. We have also found evidence of some 50 Lotus clocks bought from another place. Why would a bomber buy exactly 13 clocks for 13 bombs? Why not more for contingency," asked an NIA officer.

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IM growing stronger in northeast, Bangladesh - The Times of India

They should have encouraged disenchanted Bangladeshis in 1971 to convert to Buddhism and Hindu dharma then. After seeing so much savagery, a large portion would have agreed then.

This would have ideologically secured entire Eastern sector for our country and made Bangladesh another Bhutan/Nepal and turned our entire east, peaceful.

Now because of leftist socialism, see where this is going.

 

[DingDong]

SAARC is becoming a useless forum with Pakistan included.

They always tank all the meetings with their imaginary issue based on some stupid dreams.

Bhutan, Nepal, SL and Afghanistan are fed up of this.

We need to connect these countries with trade, economic pacts.

We should move away from SAARC and engage in independent multi-lateral engagement.

That is what Modi was hinting at when he said that even if a few disagree, we will seal the deal with support from other agreeable nations. India, Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh are working together on better connectivity and power trade. India must facilitate such deal because it will further integrate the economies of these nations and lessen their dependency on China (China has been trying to connect with Nepal and Bhutan through road) if Nepal and Bhutan manage to gain access to the Bangladeshi ports through Chicken's Neck. India Sri Lanka FTA has been a huge success.

Afghanistan is a tough nut to crack because it is one of the most religious nations in the world and hence might not break it's attachment with Pakistan despite all it's misgivings. Maldives has already been talibanized. For these nations India must adopt a clear "carrot and stick" approach.

 

[santosh10]

That is what Modi was hinting at when he said that even if a few disagree, we will seal the deal with support from other agreeable nations. India, Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh are working together on better connectivity and power trade. India must facilitate such deal because it will further integrate the economies of these nations and lessen their dependency on China (China has been trying to connect with Nepal and Bhutan through road) if Nepal and Bhutan manage to gain access to the Bangladeshi ports through Chicken's Neck. India Sri Lanka FTA has been a huge success.

Afghanistan is a tough nut to crack because it is one of the most religious nations in the world and hence might not break it's attachment with Pakistan despite all it's misgivings. Maldives has already been talibanized. For these nations India must adopt a clear "carrot and stick" approach.

The Bangladesh Govt is fighting the Islamic fundamentalism and they are not buying the Indian IDs.

It is the Jamaait Bangladesh which is doing so.

BNP supports the Jamaait and not the present Govt.

For instance, the Burdwan blast where IEDs were being manufactured, was funded by Jamaait Bangladesh to be used against the Bangladesh Govt.

On terrorism, there is greater interaction between India and Bangladesh. They have thrown out Paresh Barua the ULFA chief and that man is now in China.

Of course, there is still much more cooperation is needed, but that is how the situation stands.

In so far as the infiltration is concerned, the sole BJP MLA in the WB Assembly raised the issue and said that it was the local leaders who are thriving on the facilitating the infiltration, making capital of the fact that the border is porous..

"Registered" Indians Working in Bangladesh, in numbers upto 10 to 40millions

sir, there are evidence that all these "Jamaait Bangladesh" and "BNP" etc are working in behalf of their government itself, and the fund they get from those sources who have full support from the Bangladeshi government itself....

for example, we have news that there are around 5 to 40million "registered" Indians working in Bangladesh, check the news, and this happened because those Bangladeshi people are allowed to register themselves in Bangladesh as an Indian national, showing their Indian IDs.

and here the conspiracy stands, where we find full involvements by the Bangladeshi government to help these 20 to 40million false ID Bangladeshi workers to get into India in future...

and also, BSF has full experience of these False ID holders coming from Bangladesh, as a "registered Indians" working there

Bangladesh, a member of LDCs like Somalia/Congo/Afghanistan, 80% population suffering from Malnutrition, over a third of their food import. and then we find Indians working there as "Registered" Indian workers, while holding IDs of Bihar and West Bengal, as per topic of this thread

 

[santosh10]

This is a masterstroke. Pakistan risks being isolated in SAARC, plus this will be a propaganda coup for India.

@Ray

its all about saying, "this government allowing easy access to bangladeshi's, but Pakistan isn't happy..."

i never trust this baastard, Modi, who is this man, not sure.....

 

[Ray]

@Ray

its all about saying, "this government allowing easy access to bangladeshi's, but Pakistan isn't happy..."

i never trust this baastard, Modi, who is this man, not sure.....

I am sure you trusted Manmohan Singh with all you heart and Gogoi, the CM of Assam, who has been asked by the Supreme Court not to go easy in identifying illegals.

 

[santosh10]

I am sure you trusted Manmohan Singh with all you heart and Gogoi, the CM of Assam, who has been asked by the Supreme Court not to go easy in identifying illegals.

not really, im discussing this issue in the thread as below too..... national issues dont change with any certain party. no matter who comes in power, the national interests for the nation as whole, doesn't change...

that time ruling party, Congress, was always attacked by me for the way things were ongoing during that period :thumb:

//defenceforumindia.com/forum/internal-security/65969-homeland-security-india.html

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