S-300: NATO’s nightmare and perhaps Russia’s too

p2prada

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afaik the S-400 outclass any existing system.

Our defence is mostly ABM not for anti aircraft.
Both S-300 and S-400 outclass existing SAMs like Patriot and Aster.

We don't have an ABM capability yet. Delhi and Mumbai will be the first cities to get our indigenous BMD, followed by other cities.
 

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he isnt...

neither am i... but its about whose better evil than another... and between syrian rebels and assad u know who wins...
Well, I can't deny that fact either and you are correct :)
 
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Both S-300 and S-400 outclass existing SAMs like Patriot and Aster.

We don't have an ABM capability yet. Delhi and Mumbai will be the first cities to get our indigenous BMD, followed by other cities.
Grapevine has been: we do have 2 batteries of S-300 around Delhi...though hard to substantiate.

S-500, if the program completes as intended, would be the real game-changer. The capability margin between S-500 (true ABM) & S-400 is much wider than that between S-400 & S-300, am I correct ?
 

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Gand(u)hi (ji) ? ;-)
I think, thodaa zyada ho gaya... I do not think this is allowed on DFI :)

On a different note, you are right that he never looted but some of his idiocies have ruined the nation for posterity.
 

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I think, thodaa zyada ho gaya... I do not think this is allowed on DFI :)
Yeah, I understand ! couldn't resist my self :laugh:

On a different note, you are right that he never looted but some of his idiocies have ruined the nation for posterity.
Very true. Couldn't agree more on it. I feel ashamed to say him Father of our Nation ! Those leaving Brits, then and current congress folks made him saint even though he didnt deserve anything.
 

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Grapevine has been: we do have 2 batteries of S-300 around Delhi...though hard to substantiate.
We never received any S-300 batteries. DRDO promised to deliver a system superior to the S-300 and hence was never bought.

S-500, if the program completes as intended, would be the real game-changer. The capability margin between S-500 (true ABM) & S-400 is much wider than that between S-400 & S-300, am I correct ?
Game changer, yes, but not as much for Russia when it comes to BMD.

S-300/400/500 are all true BMD systems.

S-300 can take out 2000-2500Km missiles, like the current Indian BMD can.

S-400 can engage 3000-3500Km missiles. S-400 just manages to reach the specifications set by the ABM treaty.

S-500 can take out missiles of the 5000 Km class. Of course, this is only official information and we don't really know yet. The US withdrew from the ABM treaty, so the Russians are leaving no holds barred with the S-500. So yes, the capability margin between S-400 and S-500 will be much wider.
 

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The threats against Russia is primarily ICBMs. Nobody is yet capable of stopping ICBMs in the terminal stage. S-300/400/500 are meant to stop IRBMs.
So, could you please share what components actually comprises the active Russian BMD ?
 

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