Russia's latest air defense system S-400 licensed for export

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  1. cobra commando

    cobra commando Tharki regiment Veteran Member Senior Member

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    A S-400 air defense system on display at the Oboronexpo-2014 arms exhibition

    ZHUKOVSKY, August 15. /ITAR- TASS/. "Russia's latest air defense system - "S-400" has been issued a license for exports; talks are underway on its exports abroad", Deputy director general of the “Almaz- Antei”concern said Friday . "It's export passport has already been received. At present, we are conducting talks on the exports of the defense complex abroad. We have already made considerable progress," the executive, Vyacheslav Dzirkaln, said at "Rosoboronexport" show in Zhukovsky (Moscow region). He said the unquestionable priority was still given to the S-400 deliveries within the state defense order. “The S-400 system, including medium-range ait defense systems, is delivered to the troops on a large scale. I’d like to emphasise that we fulfil our obligations before foreign customers and sign new contracts with reasonable deadlines and with regard for our possibilities,” Dzirkaln said. According to him, it would be incorrect to say that the S-400 system would be spread around the world only owing to its combat capability. “The S-400 system is new, very effective and costly. Only counties with developed economies and good financial means can afford such systems,” he said.
    However, he said, the contracts on the S-400 supply will replace the S-300 export contracts. “We are currently engaged in marketing of the S-400 air defense missile system. Yes, the S-300 system is efficient, but if we have developed new systems why not offer them to our customers and potential partners,” the Almaz-Antey deputy head said.



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  3. rock127

    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Whats the cost?
     
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    JBH22 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Whatever it cost we need it :)
     
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    Russia's new S-500 system to destroy any target at any altitude - Deputy Defence Minister

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    Which one is true? They gonna export S-400, or not!
     
  6. Muthanna Subbayya

    Muthanna Subbayya New Member

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    It does seem like they will be exporting the S400( esp given their need to bolster exports due to the recent EU/US embargo) . The price for one S-400 system, four missiles on a TEL, was roughly $27 million( from the russiandefpolicy website... )
     
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    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    India must get at least 20 of them and reverse engineer it........

    I am waiting to see India and the DRDO to get its hands on the S-400 as soon as possible......:drool: :drool: :hungry: :hungry:
     
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    Jagdish58 Regular Member

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    But will DRDO reverse engineer S-400:confused??: becuase we have S-300 which is still closely guarded secret have we reverse engineered it in the first place?
     
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    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    I would happy if DRDO did the reverse engineering of both S-300 and S-400 and designs a new and more advanced tech...
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I maybe a cynic, but I am not too sure that they can.

    If they could, we would have already gone places.

    Even after having the Bofor ToT, they have dragged their feet and produced something that had, what is called in military parlance, an accident!
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Why can't they reverse engineer? They can't be so dumb.

    We know we produce Donkeys in our Engineering factories but DRDO guys should be capable enough.
     
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    Why, are we so dumb that we cannot reverse engineer anything or are we lacking the will to do so under some political pressure from the russians.....?
     
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    If we reverse engineer , many high value imports will be stopped then who will feed middle agent and their family?? and more importantly who will bail foreign company from Bankruptcy ??? & what about kick backs??

    The big one we cannot down play chinese by taunting them for reverse engineering:facepalm: fact of the matter is it is easy to taunt then reverse engineering:thumb:
     
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    Reverse Engineering - the terms to use are "copying and stealing technology without acknowledgement" is not good. Building trust and also applying and complying with agreements is good. It builds confidence in dealing and also in future agreements and developments sets benchmarks. Further its based on rule of law principles you do not copy and steal without acknowledgment.

    after a successful fully complied agreement learning and developing can be incorporated with all the stakeholders and is different from copying and stealing. Transfer of Technology is also different. The Russians wants to maintain their manufacturing. Question is with the FDI being opened up in India for Defense will the Russian companies come. It will be good to diversify manufacturing and also good for servicing and delivery and earn more money in long-term.
     
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    Yes we have maintained good trust with Russia then why are refusing to TOT on Smerch , cost overun on Vikramditya , T-90 technical snags , Su-30MKI Engine engine issue the list goes on
    it should be two way right

    While i agree on diversification of production , not only put all egg in same basket under public limited but share it to other private production agency as well
     
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    Su-30 MKI, Smerch, Vikramaditya, T-90, and all the rest - Is there a comparable relationship that Russia has with anyone else. Russia has given a lot when no-one else would and has. But yes India is also telling them there is choice and many times better choice available. Also because of natural conditions there is a potential USA-India closeness. But we are no way going to back-stab Russia and spit on their face. It also means India is developing and also India wants better works. Does that make Russia more competitive (refer to the below).

    What India has done within Su-30 MKI, Smerch, Vikramaditya, T-90, and all the rest i am sure Russia gets the "message". Would they have got that and such a message from anyone else.

    It works both ways. Akash, IAC, Arjun, Tejas, PAK-FA, and more
     
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    bengalraider DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    Anyhoo we need to get our air defence in order, that means getting our LR SAM programs going. Since Aakash is only a MR SAM and also BARAK 8 is hobbled with a range of only 70km and even the ER version shall have a range of only 150km.
    The S300 & S 400 are unique as they qualify as offensive weapons as well by virtue of their sheer range. A dozen batteries of S 400 deployed close to our western border would negate the ability of the PAF to play any part in any future indo pak conflict.
     
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    gadeshi Senior Member Senior Member

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    Russians do not sell or deliver heavy AD/BMD Systems from S-300/S-400 family by one TEL or even the one full battery. They sell and deliver S-300/S-400 by divizion (do not mispoint with infantry division) complects (4 batteries + control, self-defence, electronic surviallance and support units) for export and by regiment (4 divizions + regiment-level control, self-defence, communication, ESM and support units) complects for Russian VKS.
     
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    jackprince Turning into a frog Senior Member

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    Is there any chance India buying the system at least for protecting major cities? If S-400 works half as good as advertised, it would a tremendous force multiplier. Akash may be a good missile, but I doubt DRDO can achieve as good ability in building the whole system similar to S-400 anytime soon. Given China is rumoured to have already gotten it, and will surely reverse engineer it in coming days, I would say that India should at least buy enough of these to protect at least the major cities like Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata. What do you folks think about it?
     
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    Akash is middle ranged AD system (up to 75km) which is not comparable to heavy area defence systems like S-300/S-400.
    And yes, S-400 works as advertised, not a half :) but it requires to purchase whole package of system parts to work that way.
    And of course, it requires the customer to be tought to use modern Soviet/Russian mobile AD tactics as well.

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    jackprince Turning into a frog Senior Member

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    I know and said the same in my post.
    I know that too, hence i mentioned S-400 SYSTEMS, not S-400 missiles only.
    There I have to disagree, as I am sure our armed forces can develop their own doctrine based on their own terrain, border and necessity, which is unlike Russia.
     

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