Russia's General Staff suspects Georgia planning new attack

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    Russia's General Staff suspects Georgia planning new attack

    MOSCOW, August 5 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's General Staff suspects Georgia of planning new military action, despite being incapable of any aggression at the current time, a senior Russian military official said on Wednesday.
    Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, the deputy chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, said that unnamed third countries were continuing to help Georgia rebuild its military potential.
    "As for weapons they are indeed being supplied, and financing is underway...Georgia has funds to develop its armed forces," he said, adding that "unfortunately, Georgia is restoring its military potential at a fast rate."
    Nogovitsyn described Russia's key task as preventing a new conflict.
    "Today, we are trying to prevent a new conflict and will do everything possible to stop it taking place. This is our key task now," he said.
    According to Nogovitsyn, Russia has no plans to reinforce its military presence in both South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Moscow recognized the independence of the two former Georgian republics soon after last August's war with Georgia over South Ossetia.
    "We do not see any need for increasing the operating contingent," he said.
    Looking back at the conflict ahead of the first anniversary this Saturday in which 64 Russian soldiers, including 15 peacekeepers, were killed, Nogovitsyn said Georgian planes camouflaged with Russian insignia had attacked refugees.
    "It has been established that Georgia twice used Russian aircraft insignia on its Su-25(Frogfoot) planes: on August 8 when it bombed a column of vehicles carrying refugees from Tskhinvali [South Ossetia's capital],... and on August 9 [when it attacked] a column of Russian troops moving along the Dzara road [from Tskhinvali]," the military official said.
    He said the evidence had been submitted to the international community and Moscow was still waiting for the European Union to suggest a punishment for Georgia.
    "What is most depressing is those countries that with the help of the EU mission have received a comprehensive report that Georgia and the Georgian leadership was the aggressor and should be punished, have yet to react," the military official said.

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    This summur will be HOT for Caucasians.

    its 50%-50% chance to be another war
    And Georgia is not going to attack anyone and we never attacked Russia.


    Aftes 8 of august GAF was only using Mi24 gunships becouse russian Fighter Jets achieved air superiority.

    and GAF and russian air force insignias was and are different.
     
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    Of course you attacked Russia, you launched Grad rockets at Russian peacekeepers.

    Russians achieved air superiority the second the first Su-27 took off.
     
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    from 1 august to 8august russian "SOUTH" peacekeepers base was used by Corrector of Osetian Artillery Units for bombing Georgian Villiges.
    they use all firepoweres they could.

    and When Georgians met the Russian Peacekeeper Commander Kulakhmetov he said that Osetian are out of control and Russians could not stop them bombing the villiges.
    Fact was that South Peacekeeper base was used for artillery fire control.
    And the North one was not bombed by Georgian Artillery.
     
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    There is video evidence to the contrary...

     
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    What Evidence ?

    I said That We Bombed "South" Peackeepers base. and in this video you can see destroyd "South" Peacekeepers base and the soldiers of Northern Peacekeepers base.
    When we entered the city our primary target was the north one. but the area was full of Russian/Osetians with Tanks and RPGs. and they could Hold this area before support of Russian Air Forces.
    On this attack 2 Georgian T72 was destryed becouse they lost connection with Otokar Cobras Thats why they where out of their support.

    P.S. This North Peacekeepers base is in the middle of Tskhinval and That`s why we did`t bombed it...
    and i thing that it was the biggest mistake of Georgian Army. We Should bomb the city becouse it was one big military Base.


    Thare is a mistake in this video That su 25 was Russian and they shooted dawn their own.
     
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    Maybe you do not realise the sequential events, but on 7.8.08 Sakashvilli ordered Georgian troops into the disputed territory breaking the ceasefire he had just signed. Georgian troops opened fire with Grad rockets on the city of Tskhinvali. There was no outgoing artillery fire from the Russian controlled area as stated in the OSCE report. In fact, the OSCE says Georgia started it.

    You did bomb the whole city, look at the video at 0:53. Peppered the whole down-town with Grad rockets.
     
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    We shooted them 50 Rockets of MLRS and that was the problem we did no military advantage with that and Whole Media was talking about us...
    it means that we should fire much more of them.

    Trust me in osetian side it`s much less civilian casualties Than in Georgian Civilian casualties.
    Its Clear Who is Aggresor.
     
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    Reason of breaking The Cease Fire by our side was that osetian Started Heavier barrage of georgian villiages.
     
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    Nuli and Avnevi After Osetian Mortar Fire. 06.08.08
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    bombing peacefull Villiges is not the The War ? and bombing Evacuated towns full of Enemy Soldiers, mortars,tanks and Howitsers is The War???

    07.08.08 Russian regular army Tanks entered Georgia through Roki Tunnel. At this time started the war Between georgia and russia.

    at night 12 o`clock 08.08.08 Georgian MLRS started bombing Osetian/russian positions.
     
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    Nuli is in South Ossetia. Those are Russian OMAN. Kind of hard for them to be rebels when they are Russian. жтв was embedded with them AFTER Russian troops responded. Not before...
     
  15. Georgian Hind

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    so...It`s Clear That you know nothing about S.Osetia,Russia and OMON.
    This insignia is Russian MVD OMON.
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    and this man is osetian OMON.
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    And this map Shows Georgian and Russian Controled Areas before the war.

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    georgia allways was controling Akhalgori distric and avnevi/nuli/tamarasheni/achabeti/kurta/kekhvi/eredvi/prisi and so on.
    Nuli and avnevi was the reason of the war becouse this Villiges was bombed from khetagurovo.

    P.S. After the war Tamarasheni (in Georgian Means "built by Tamar") was renamed by russian Mayor and now thay call it Moscow Distric.
    These Georgian Villiages(north of Tkkhinvali) was completly destoryed and over that viliges russians made Millitary bases.

    Children's Center in Tamarasheni, destroyed by Russians.
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    I am Telling U fact. You are blind with Russian Propaganda.
     
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    This is the back flash worn by OMON.

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    The same back flash worn on his vest. He was also embedded with an NTV camera team which is a Russian news channel that wouldn't have been there unless hostilities had already broken out.

    OSCE is a UN organisation and EU observers say Saakashvili started it. You are telling Saakashvili propaganda used to save his neck when the people want him gone. He is an embarrassment to the Western world who supported him and a disgrace to the Georgian people.
     
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    There are talking in Osetian lenguage.
    And Osetian OMON realy exists And osetians are proude of it. They(osetians) say that osetian OMON did biggest job against georgian assault on Tskhinval

    Main thing is They are Attacking georgian villige.
    I am not telling saakashvilis propaganda. He did very foolish things in war 2008 . But he did not started the war.
    problem is he must Start "shooting" when russian Regular army Tanks crossed Georgian border.
    and if your country is invaded and you shoot them it means that U started the war?
     
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