Russia to develop a second 5G bird besides PAK-FA

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  1. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    news from Russia

    Russian's vice PM Sergai. Ivanov said that Russia is to develope a second 5G bird, beside PAK-FA.

    According to Ivonov's word, the second 5G bird might be more high-end than PAK-FA and not for export!

     
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    I wonder how India would take such a development?
     
  4. Rahul92

    Rahul92 Senior Member Senior Member

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    well it may be hardly on drawing boards and the Russian president still yet to visit India so we have nothing to worry
     
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    Is this the Mikoyan project?

    It might be a "low-end" complement to the PAKFA, just as the MiG-29 was a low-end complement to the Su-27.
     
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    This is just Pak-fa single seater which is different from Indo-Russian twin seater FGFA..
     
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    IMO this would be nothing but the modified version of PAK-FA, whatever they say. Just like India's modifying and getting the end result in the name of FGFA, Russian version would be similar in modifications aspect. Nothing more, i guess.
     
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    China's next next generation fighter may have maneuvering engines (steam? rocket?) to dodge incoming missile with high overload, and variable inlet to fit different speed mission, two versions manned and unmanned.
     
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    They will not be able to finance development of a second fifth gen plane when India more or less saved the whole PAKFA project by providing financing,at one time Russians wanted Brazil involved because they had no money to develop this on their own.
     
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    Old news. Work is going on and I believe Sukhoi is involved rather than Mikoyan.
     
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    IMO, this will not happen in 10 years. PAKFA is bright because of the indian oil burning there.
     
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    Why cant this happen?...bring in Brazil instead of India. There are lot of other countries that can shell out the cash for something that is more capable than the F-16/ F18s. you got Malyasia, Indonesia and Korea doing a FGFA project called KF-X. You got, Venezuela, Egypt, and Iran ready to shell out the money for a project like that.

    It is easily possible for Russia to pull this out.
     
  13. Rahul Singh

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    I feel this new fifth generation fighter will be based on PAK-FA but it can be small and might feature classified technology both in electronics and material. Like civfanatic, i also don't think the new 5G fighter will look racially different from PAK-FA. Though i can be wrong if Russia military aviation had secretly dumped super maneuverability.


    I know how Japan took similar from US by starting development of ATD-X. Expect similar response from Bharat and hints are already floating in the form of project AMCA. BTW Russia has every right build special, unshared, best in the world for its military
     
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    Rahul92 Senior Member Senior Member

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    well u really think those countries can make 5 th generation plane not even in dreams
     
  15. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    well, If Russia really is to develope a second 5G project for Russian airforce only, T50 might prove to be just a joint low-end bird for export only,just like joint JF17!
     
  16. Rahul92

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    so u agree that your jf-17 is a low quality one
     
  17. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    "low end" is not equal to "low quality"
     
  18. Rahul92

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    entire universe knows wat type of quality chinese products have
     
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    so, india decides to spend over 10 billion USD to import crappy CHinese power generators?
     
  20. Rahul92

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    those are purchased by RIL there is nothing to do with india
     
  21. kuku

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    There is no money for the more defence projects, they also have to invest in a lot of other military research and development, and technology that can earn profits will be on offer to many nations around the world.

    The next program may well be a Bomber/UCAV to continue with the structure of the russian air force and the 5th gen structure.

    The specifications, a low end bird would have concentrated on replacing the Mig-29s role in their air force structure, the PAK-FA is a heavy bird, meant for replacing the Su-27s.
     

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