Russia says fake news about US naval team visiting INS Chakra N-Sub was planted by French lobby

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    France planted the States and Russia "Chakra"
    Source to News.ru: Culprits behind the false information about admission of representatives of the US Navy to the Russian nuclear submarine by Indians is Paris

    Anton Mardasov

    IN THE WORLDNOVEMBER 09, 2017 / 15:44

    The information that Moscow suspected New Delhi of admitting US Navy representatives to the Russian nuclear submarine of Project 971I, which is operated by the Indian Navy since 2011, has been organized by the French side since 2011 under the name Chakra (Chakra). This is done in order to push back Russia, the United States and India and, on this background, lobby for their French projects. This was said to News.ru a source in the Russian military-industrial complex said.

    Recall, November 7 in the American edition of Strategy Page was published material in which, referring to sources, it was alleged that Russia was postponing the repair work on the leased India nuclear submarine because of suspicions that the Indian military, in violation of the lease agreement, allow representatives of the US Navy carefully study the Russian submarine. Also, according to sources of the publication, the Russian side had questions about the degree of damage to the submarine of the hydro-acoustic complex of the hydroacoustic complex (SAC), which, as noted by Indian media, the former K-152 Nerpa nuclear submarine of the third generation of Project 971I "Shchuka-B" (designation of NATO - Akula) was received in the basing area - near Vishakhapatnam.

    As Kommersant sources claimed on November 9 in Russian state structures, first the US Navy delegation visited the aircraft carrier Vikramaditya (the former aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov), and after a while it was already on board the Chakra nuclear submarine. One of the interlocutors of the publication called outrageous the very fact of the US Navy's appearance on the Russian submarine: "Among them there were well-trained technical specialists, somehow, but they took out the information for themselves."

    "There is complete confidence that the throw-in is organized by the lobbyists of France, and it's pretty high-quality," source News.ru said. - The time of his appearance was chosen successfully. On the one hand, in the near future, Vice-Premier Dmitry Rogozin is expected to visit India, which should finalize the agreements that were reached during Vladimir Putin's visit in October 2016. On the other hand, in the near future, the contract between Russia and India for the lease of the second nuclear submarine should also be finalized. "

    According to him, we are talking about the nuclear submarine of the same project 971, which was "repaired for the Russian Navy." "In addition to the contract for the construction of non-nuclear boats such as Scorpene, the French have a great desire to enter the Indian nuclear fleet," the source said News.ru. - Currently, France is actively pushing the idea of its participation in the design of the second aircraft carrier of the Indian Navy of national construction. In general, the French side has repeatedly been seen in such provocations on the Indian arms market: it is believed that many negative publications concerning Russian aircraft in the Indian Air Force are the work of the French lobby. "

    Recall that the submarine K-152 "Nerpa", completed under the agreement of 2000 with the Indian side on the modified project 971I, was transferred to the Indian Navy for rent for 10 years. The official ceremony of launching the S 72 Chakra in the Indian fleet was held in Vishakhapatnam in 2012. This is not the first time that the domestic nuclear submarine was leased to the Indian side - during the Soviet Union, the Indians operated the K-43 submarine of project 670 Scat (S 71 Chakra).

    "There is a high level of competition in the arms market, and all means are good for obtaining a contract, including denigrating a competitor," said Andrey Frolov, editor-in-chief of the magazine Export of Arms, in an interview with News.ru. - History, when publications are initiated in which information is provided on the shortcomings revealed during tests or during the operation of samples of weapons and military equipment, periodically occur in the practice of military-technical cooperation. "

    The expert cites an example: in 2016, confidential documents on the construction of six nonautomatic French submarines of the Scorpene type for the Indian Navy were received. "It is believed that for the French it was a powerful blow to the image in the light of concluding a contract with Australia for the construction of 12 submarines and that this throw could be Germany," said Andrei Frolov. - At the same time, during the Australian tender there were leaks about the alleged shortcomings of the German submarines of Project 216 (Typ 216). Whoever was behind them is not exactly clear, but for the French and Germans they have become quite a serious gap in terms of PR activity, which had to be dealt with in an emergency. "

    https://news.ru/v-mire/franciya-probila-shtatam-i-rossii-podvodnuyu-chakru/
     
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    The report came from Kommersant, is that a French conpiracy too?
     
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    Kommersant got its information from Strategy Page who in turn got info from Bharat Karnad.
     
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    Oh really ! Appreciate it . Coming from world renowned experts in disinformation like Russians :rofl:
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    So Kommersant is the Russian version of CNN... got it.
     
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    CNN is outright Islamic news channel - Caliphate news network. CNN is loyal to to Islamic countries and doesn't spread fake news there
     
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    Fools in Indian media accepted the French word and took it as gospel.

    Can be shot some of these in public to make an example for others.
     
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    Who is the French source? It is Russian media qouting Strategy Page, that isn't any source worth mentioning.
     
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    Bull crap News.
    In the days ahead we can see intl. lobbying trying to out with each other on fake news.
    In reality tho...Indian defence dept. will pursue whats their interest irrespective of whats coming in the media. The lobbies would have understood that part by now.

    The only other thing that can hedge the deals is how much the intl. defence deal which are Govt to Govt yield India in the diplomatic front to contain some of its regional adversaries and terrorism.
     
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    British team, not the Americans, visited India’s Russian nuclear submarine:ThePrint

    Sources said that a team from James Fischer Defence UK went on board to examine the compatibility of its submarine rescue systems with the nuclear boat.

    India contracted two submarine rescue vessels from the British company in 2016 in a $273 million deal. The rescue vessels are to be delivered by 2018 and all Indian submarines are being inspected by the British team as part of the deal.


    After reports in Russia about the alleged visit of a US team, no official statement was made by India. But sources confirmed the information was inaccurate. ThePrint also checked with US officials, who have also denied any such visit.

    However, Russia has been unhappy about India’s growing ties with the US that it believes have exposed some of their weapons systems and ships.
     

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