Russia & Pakistan sign defence cooperation agreement

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  1. Yusuf

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    Defence Ministers of Pakistan and Russian Federation held talks in Rawalpindi today focusing at strengthening defence cooperation between the two countries.
    Both sides stressed the need for continuation of momentum gained during Moscow conference and expressed satisfaction over convergence of views on most of international and cross regional issues.
    During the meeting, Defence Minister of Pakistan Khawaja Muhammad Asif appreciated Russia's overtures in enhancing bilateral relations with Pakistan.
    He said that strong ties between Pakistan and Russia will help promote regional stability and prosperity.
    The Russian Defence Minister appreciated the skill and expertise of Pakistani armed forces in fighting the war against terrorism.
    He said the world community not only praises but wants to do business with Pakistan now.
    The two sides, on the occasion, signed a military cooperation agreement.
    The agreement will pave the way for exchange of views and information on politico-military issues as well as issues related to strengthening of mutual trust and international security.
     
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    The next step naturally is to get Pakistan aboard SCO formally. Then Afghanistan becomes a dumpling, to be soft-partitioned by peripheral stakeholders including Iran and Pakistan with respective proxies (as firewalls) to contain terrorism. A figurehead will be still sitting in Kabul. An axis from the Arctic to the Arabian Sea in the making!

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    such cooperation is shit, India has auch militiray cooperation agreements with practically every country in this world...what purpose does it suit to India except some joint exercises.
     
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    Russia, Pakistan sign agreement on defence cooperation

    Russia, Pakistan sign agreement on cooperation between defense ministries

    November 20, 2014 16:16

     
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    Re: Russia, Pakistan sign agreement on defence cooperation

    This is time for India to enter the Russian Sphere of Influence. Tit-for-Tat is the rule of the game. Start with Ukraine.
     
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    May be timing of the agreement has something to do with rasheel's visit to the U.S. I have a feeling Americans will fall for it and promise to keep the military aid flowing atleast till the completion of Obama's term
     
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    Are you saying that Russia is forcing the US into assisting Pakistan? I think that Putin has finally lost his marbles.
     
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    No, i am saying pakistan is making the best of the situation playing the russians and americans at the same time.
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Do what ever you like, India is the key and will define these times !!

    These agreements don't change any thing, nor China can influence anything !!
     
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    I don't think that the US can get "played". As far as Russia is concerned, it is trying to become the USSR, forgetting that the world has changed a lot since 90s. India must adopt a policy of "tit-for-tat" and start talking a lot more about Ukraine and stuff.
     
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    Kuddos to Pakistani think tank for quietly achieving cordial relations with all three major world powers. She has maintained her regional and strategic importance and despite internal political turmoil, the foreign relations have
    only grown stronger.

    There's a Pakistan friendly regime in Kabul, Russia and China are keen to expand their political and economic role with both countries, specially under the SCO and USA is seeking a safe exit from Kabul with the assistance of Pakistan.

    We are in a very comfortable position indeed.
     
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    Talk is cheap. Cordial relations don't mean shit unless they are backed by trade, which Pakistan is incapable of providing to any country.
     
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    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

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    How about no?

    Also your metaphors suck. Dumpling, partition, figurehead.. dude.
     
  15. Neo

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    Trade is one thing, strategic importance another. Both are equally important. USA remained a pseudo ally for six decades with little trade because her strategic and military interests were served. Sino-Pak bilateral trade stands at merely $14 billion yet the alliance is unprecedented and unconditional. Russia is willing to solve the banking scandal and release $122 million Pakistani money to gain confidence of Pakistani exporters but her main goal is to get us on board and help the region stabalise.

    This is the first time in our history that we are having good relations with all three major powers.
     
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    The only thing that matters actually.

    Your strategic importance comes at the cost of your own instability. Look where remaining "strategically important" to USA got you. Pakistan's strategic importance is not it's geography but it's willingness to become the global battlefield for foreign powers.

    Nope.

    While common people in Pakistan suffered dictatorships and military rule.

    Lol @ unprecedented.

    Lol @ unconditional.

    Considering that Pakistan is the destabilizing force in the region, I will not argue with the point. Something something gun to the head.

    Technically this costs you a solid partnership with any one of them.
     
  17. Neo

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    In the mean time both Russia and China want us in the SCO and both are offering huge amounts of investments and weapons. USA is wary of losing so once again she's trying to normalise relations and has changed the tone.
    And there is a Pakistan friendly government in Kabul wich wants to work closely with USA, Russia, China and Pakistan.

    You can brag about trade as much as you want, you won't chang the improving ties between these countries.
     
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    Oh, yes, of course US can get "played", the best examples are: India and China. Both of them played US very well.
    Russia doesn't want to go back to "USSR". All she did is to defend her last underwear.

    Of course, India can start talking about anything. After all, words don't hurt.
     
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    Ok. Russia won't give you anything unless you pay. And let us talk about investments when they actually materialize.

    If you think US and China fighting over Pakistan a good thing then I don't even know what to think. In the end it will be post Afghan war Pakistan yet again.

    India still holds more influence in Kabul than Pakistan (not considering terrorist circles).

    No money no friend. :(
     
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    You are butt hurt and I can imagine that. Afterall your closest ally is cosing up with your arch rival, it's got to hurt. Your wet dreams of bringing Pakistan into international isolation seems to shatter again and again.

    And we already know how much influence you have left in Kabul since the Mayor Karzai has gone.

    Ghani visited China, KSA and now Pakistan....he seems ti know his priorities.
     
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    Strategic move by Russia . I think Russians are interested in more than just defence
    Relations there seems to be energy and trade as other factors. India does not need to
    View this as hostile towards india if it does maybe 50-100 billion in defence deals with
    Russia need to be reevaluated. Russia has been signaling for a long time their view of india
    Is no longer the Cold War view. I don't understand why this is a surprise?
     
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