Russia Offers Nuclear Aircraft Carrier

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I'm usually think that the Navy is the best arm of the military to fund since it covers the major aspects of warfare and defence: naval, airforce, soliders, and nuclear.

A nuclear supercarrier would provide a large array of defence for the country and also allow for a larger area of projection. They are essentially portable "military bases" that can be stationed in the South China Sea or the pirate waters of the Indian Ocean.

I am very supportive of India building a nuclear supercarrier with Russia. The navy is the most important aspect of a country's military and can be increasing used to repalce traditional armies, military bases and air forces.
 

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Common sense dictates, Not to go with someone whom we have a trouble past working together with objectionable results, When on our own we are more than capable doing the same more efficiently ..

Navy is more interested working with US, Germans and Ukraine than Russia at the moment for its own designs ..
 
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I don`t see it as a reliable source, Previously claimed that Indian Navy is buying Russian cruise missiles turn out to be fake ..
 

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India plans to purchase the Kalibr cruise missiles from Russia, the Russian Izvestia newspaper reports.
08:08 01.09.2016(updated 12:24 01.09.2016)

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/20160901/1044837866/india-kalibr-cruise-missiles-purchase.html

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Indian Navy denies interest in Russia's Kalibr missile system
Russian media had earlier reported that India was looking to acquire more missiles.

Source : http://www.ibtimes.co.in/indian-navy-denies-interest-russias-kalibr-missile-system-692550

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Here Russian lobby at its best
 

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Common sense dictates, Not to go with someone whom we have a trouble past working together with objectionable results, When on our own we are more than capable doing the same more efficiently ..

Navy is more interested working with US, Germans and Ukraine than Russia at the moment for its own designs ..
What I know is that we are interest in the nuclear power plant and dock technology as we are unable to get these technology from western sources.
 

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That might be true, For few system in IAC-2 ..

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Here Russian lobby at its best
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I wonder why the hell Defence Minister and MoD both, gets blind for such "Russian lobby" now......!

In past they cried a lot about US supporters, even when we talk about just 'MoD'.
 

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I wonder why the hell Defence Minister and MoD both, gets blind for such "Russian lobby" now......!

In past they cried a lot about US supporters, even when we talk about just 'MoD'.
The current MoD and Defense Minister seem to be immune to the Russian lobby and clearly west leaning,not that I'm complaining.
 

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You find problems with present government or Russian lobby as you quote ..

Any official conformation from MoD or Goverment, Do post it here if you find one ..

I wonder why the hell Defence Minister and MoD both, gets blind for such "Russian lobby" now......!'.
 

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INDIA have say 'YES'..if Affordable Prize By Russia...
Because A Russian View also Important For India..
(of course Rus Suffering Economically and Facing International Sanction..
But At one Time Rus is MOst Reliable Partner When India needed... Like Russia..
everybody Remember 1971 war.. USS &fleet in Indian Ocean Russia Dont care anybody
Announce If USS strike russian friend We Russian Nuclear Sub Destroy all of it...
we r indian we never forgot this...we know Indi ra Gandhi was brave leader until today ... but at time
Us Is The Huge Millitary power.. What aftermath shown During in Vietnam war.. Its hard to say
US not got victory ..but US use all legal \ ilegal Weapons(WMD) used in Vietnam.. to take down on foot..
...back to ind-us :if Rus not backing us at that time We scare to think How hard US can be on uS..
..............So india have dont going to loose like this called "OLD friend."
 

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On a side note. Do you ever think Russia would lease space in Crimea for an Indian military/naval base? It's a strategic location for India, on the opposite side of the Middle East where India doesn't have easy projection. It might be the perfect place to dock the supercarrier too.
 

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On a side note. Do you ever think Russia would lease space in Crimea for an Indian military/naval base? It's a strategic location for India, on the opposite side of the Middle East where India doesn't have easy projection. It might be the perfect place to dock the supercarrier too.
It is not required as India first seeks to dominate Indian Ocean Region ,no bases in crimea plus the North South Trade route presently by passes Crimea but there are change yo make a civilian port to have trade with eastern and central European countries .Russian has invited Indian investment in Crimea but at present we are more interested in Siberia and the far east
 

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It is not required as India first seeks to dominate Indian Ocean Region ,no bases in crimea plus the North South Trade route presently by passes Crimea but there are change yo make a civilian port to have trade with eastern and central European countries .Russian has invited Indian investment in Crimea but at present we are more interested in Siberia and the far east
Why does India need to dominate the Indian Ocean? Our "rivals" in the area (essentially Sri Lanka) can be won over through diplomatic channels, and since the two countries are so ethno-culturally linked, military bases installed there at a future time.

The problematic region in the Indian Ocean (Horn of Africa, Arabia, and Persian Gulf) are pretty much extensions of the "Middle East". This is the only area of the Indian Ocean (the entire rim stretching from Somalia to Pakistan) that India needs police, and it's not as if there aren't a plethora of countries (from China to USA) policing that region too.

If India is trying to dominate for security reasons, is it not best to have military support on the other side of the Middle East? Crimea is the perfect location. India has had to get its military involved in the Near East several times already to simply evacuate citizens.

I don't see why the Siberian far-east is of any interest to India, unless India is trying to encircle China. The only major "part" of China that India might want to place overseas bases for security reasons, is the South China Sea.

India shouldn't overlook Crimea. It's one of a few (if there are any other) parts of Europe that are willing to open up to Indian military and finance.
 

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Why does India need to dominate the Indian Ocean? Our "rivals" in the area (essentially Sri Lanka) can be won over through diplomatic channels, and since the two countries are so ethno-culturally linked, military bases installed there at a future time.
IOR is very big, China has increased patrol their plus their is the US. Pirates are being tackled by an international coalitions of force. Plus IOR also have some oil and gas reserves so to use them we will need to have a big naval force. We are thinking of ships docking in Iran but nothing more. Plus our a major part of our export are by shipping.
I don't see why the Siberian far-east is of any interest to India, unless India is trying to encircle China. The only major "part" of China that India might want to place overseas bases for security reasons, is the South China Sea.
Siberia has a lot of mineral and other resources which our industry require. We r not interested in miniseries but in economic sense.
India shouldn't overlook Crimea. It's one of a few (if there are any other) parts of Europe that are willing to open up to Indian military and finance.
Investment in Crimea will take place only after Siberia, only if we have a trade deal with EU in which case it can be used as shortcut along with North South trade route.
 

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IOR is very big, China has increased patrol their plus their is the US. Pirates are being tackled by an international coalitions of force. Plus IOR also have some oil and gas reserves so to use them we will need to have a big naval force. We are thinking of ships docking in Iran but nothing more. Plus our a major part of our export are by shipping.
The Indian Ocean is however very peaceful and Indians are found throughout the bordering countries of the Indian Ocean.

The only region of the Indian Ocean that's volatile is "The Horn of Africa, Arabia, Persian Gulf, and Pakistan", and includes the area infested by pirates.

The United States maintains a military base at the British Indian Ocean Territory, while several countries maintain bases of the coast of East Africa. Dijbouti is home to a Chinese military base.

India maintains high-levels of military activity in this region purely because of the situation in the Middle East. It's the same reason that China maintains a military base on the Horn of Africa, and the same reason why India maintains a military base in Turkmenistan.

It's also the same reason why India should invest in Crimea, or in a military base in the Near East, away from Islamic influence.
 

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It's also the same reason why India should invest in Crimea, or in a military base in the Near East, away from Islamic influence.
What will be the purpose of maintaining such a facility at a place where India has no much larger role to play...just for the sake of geographical presence?
 

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What will be the purpose of maintaining such a facility at a place where India has no much larger role to play...just for the sake of geographical presence?
It's near the Middle East, and more importantly, it's near the Near East. It's a region that's at the heart of global conflict - the most volatile region on earth.

India currently has no quick access to that side of the Middle East. Crimea would offer India a harbor in the Mediterranean Sea, with access to the Levant, North Africa, and the Atlantic Ocean. It's on the side of the earth where India has no quick way to project its military.

I fail to see how China is considered a "threat" that needs to be dealt with, but the Middle East is nothing to be worried about. There's a reason why China built a base in the Horn of Africa, and it wasn't to further encircle India.
 

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The Indian Ocean is however very peaceful and Indians are found throughout the bordering countries of the Indian Ocean.
Recently gas reserve in large quantity have been discovered in IOR,just a matter of time that thing spark up similar to SCS wait for 5 years
 

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I found a map of military bases in the Indian Ocean for reference. But why is the British Indian Ocean Terriroty labelled as "Seychelles"?

Recently gas reserve in large quantity have been discovered in IOR,just a matter of time that thing spark up similar to SCS wait for 5 years

I know this is going very off-topic, so I don't mind moving this to another thread (called "How important is the Indian Ocean?").


I've been trying to find out more about the topic. There's a couple of discoveries that's happened this year:
  1. The first is one in the Bay of Bengal, which will probably be a non-issue since India has cordial relations with all of the rim except Bangladesh and Myanmar.
  2. The second is off the east coast of Africa; a lot of Indians are in strong positions in those countries, so India could benefit peacefully through diplomacy.
I hope these finds help India detach itself from Middle Eastern oil. The amount of money being spent in the Middle East is ridiculous.
 

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