RUSSIA CHINA COUNTER-ALLIANCE: Counterweight To NATO?

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  1. amoy

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    The 4th Media » RUSSIA CHINA COUNTER-ALLIANCE: Counterweight To NATO?[​IMG]
    Andrei Ilyashenko | Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 9:48 Beijing

    It’s impossible not to notice that the SCO has gone beyond the scope of regional problems.

    At the meeting in Beijing, the draft final declaration of the SCO member states was adopted. According to RIA Novosti sources in the Russian delegation, the document condemns the U.S. anti-ballistic missile program.

    A consolidated SCO position on anti-ballistic missile systems has the potential to become a significant counterweight to NATO’s plans in this area.


    Although for many years the SCO treaded cautiously in making foreign policy statements, the organization is evolving.

    The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) is in for major changes, judging by the outcomes of the meeting of SCO foreign ministers in China’s capital ahead of the SCO summit scheduled to be held in Beijing on June 6-7.

    The SCO was designed in the 1990s as an institution to build up confidence between Russia, China and four Central Asian countries – Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan – primarily in the military sector. The SCO member states were united by the common threat of Islamic fundamentalism, kindled by the dominance of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

    However, in the early 2000s, the SCO shifted its focus to combating international terrorism and drug trafficking, as well as cooperation in economic and humanitarian areas. The organization held reasonable, well-balanced positions on international issues and pursued a very cautious policy, never giving analysts reasons to treat it as a serious political, let alone military alliance. India, Pakistan, Iran and Mongolia joined the SCO as observers, while Belarus and Sri Lanka became “dialogue partners.”

    But times have changed, and the SCO has changed along with them. The crises in the Middle East, including those triggered by the Arab Spring, the role that Western countries played there, and the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and more importantly, from Afghanistan, called for a major revision to the SCO’s approaches and prompted the organization to step up its foreign policy efforts.

    As it appears from the speech of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov delivered at the recent Shanghai meeting, from now on the SCO will formulate a common policy for all its participants if crises should emerge in the region. It appears that the new mechanism will be launched as early as next month, on the eve of an international conference on Afghanistan slated for June 14 in Kabul.

    “The situation in Afghanistan and around it raises major concerns. We should actively participate in all international discussions on Afghanistan- related problems, coordinating our positions,” Lavrov said. The SCO will obviously take into consideration the decisions of the NATO summit in Chicago, which will take place during the final week of May and address the situation in that country.

    Previous statements by the Russian Foreign Ministry made it clear that the nature of the U.S. and NATO military presence in Afghanistan will top the agenda. Moscow and Beijing argue against the continued presence of foreign troops, whose functions go well beyond mere policing there. Moscow would also like to hear a report on the implementation of the UN resolution that served as the basis for carrying out the military campaign in Afghanistan. The SCO’s consolidated position will substantially support the efforts of Russia and China in this area.

    Moscow and Beijing’s demands will be backed even more strongly if the number of SCO member states or associated countries grows. During the recent meeting, Lavrov called for approving the SCO membership requests filed by India and Pakistan. Furthermore, the organization is close to deciding in favor of giving Afghanistan observer status and making Turkey a dialogue partner.

    It’s impossible not to notice that the SCO has gone beyond the scope of regional problems.

    At the meeting in Beijing, the draft final declaration of the SCO member states was adopted. According to RIA Novosti sources in the Russian delegation, the document condemns the U.S. anti-ballistic missile program. RIA Novosti quotes a part of the document, which reads that unilateral unlimited expansion of the anti-ballistic missile system may damage international security and strategic stability. This statement clearly supports Moscow’s efforts to deter the U.S. anti-ballistic missile plans, which, if implemented, may devalue Russia’s strategic potential. However, China is also interested in deterring the U.S., as its nuclear forces are even more vulnerable.

    A consolidated SCO position on anti-ballistic missile systems has the potential to become a significant counterweight to NATO’s plans in this area.

    However, judging by the published documents and statements, there are no plans to give the SCO military and defence functions. It is possible, though, as the newspaper Kommersant reported, that some additional instruments are contained in the strategy for further development of the organization, which will have to be approved by the heads of the SCO states. The essence of the strategy remains undisclosed, since it is still under negotiation.
     
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  3. huaxia rox

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    Ahmadinejad to Visit China for SCO Meeting

    Ahmadinejad to Visit China for SCO Meeting

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is to travel to China this Tuesday to take part in the 12th summit meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), state-run IRNA news agency reported Saturday.

    Head of presidential office's international relations division Mohammad Reza Forqani said the SCO summit meeting is scheduled for June 6-7.

    During his stay in Beijing, the Iranian president is due to meet with his counterparts from the SCO member countries and the observer states, noted Forqani.

    He added that Iran's Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi and Minister of Industry, Mine and Commerce Mehdi Ghazanfari will accompany President Ahmadinejad.

    The SCO is an inter-governmental organization established for the purpose of multilateral economic and security cooperation.

    It was founded in 2001 by the leaders of China, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan.

    Iran, Mongolia, Pakistan and India are acting as the SCO observers.
     
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    SCO may be some sort of semi alliance but i dont see it as 'Counterweight To NATO'....

    nato countries have many common interests....they have similar agandas when ever there is war in any part of the world and they r basically christan and highly developed countries......so we call that real alliance.....

    but for SCO the current major playes russia and prc r focusing on different issues.....just for example the main headacre prc has been getting is the taiwan issue and this has absolutly nothing to do with russia.....and for russia stuff like georgia is also not up to prc to play any role in.....

    and when it comes to the separist terrorism problem in afghanstan...why not cooperate with nato?? coz we r to some extent in the same boat on this issue......by saying this i mean....u dont call a group of nations alliance if they happen to go together for 1 or 2 things otherwise we have too many alliances out there dont we??

    and if SCO really wanna be the 'Counterweight To NATO'.......let iran join in 1st and then i m gonna believe.....
     
  5. asianobserve

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    That's the idea... Putin is cooking up something. So who will join their elite club? I have the following candidates:

    1. North Korea
    2. Pakistan
    3. Sudan
    4. Iran
    5. Syria
    6. Kazakhstan
    7. Uzbekistan
    8. Zimbabwe
    9. Cuba
    10.Venezuela
    11.Nicaragua

    (Please supply what I missed)

    :rofl:
     
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  6. ajtr

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    Moscow-Beijing tried same sort of alliance during cold war in form of an international united front and Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance, and Mutual Assistance against USA and ended up betraying each other for relationship with Washington even before cold war ended.Today Moscow has more danger from expansionist china which is eyeing the resource rich Siberia.
     
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  7. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Is your list based on any factors which are ranked in some way? Maybe Putin has an affinity for working with the mentally ill (1 and 2). When Mugabe and Chavez are gone, that list may change.
     
  8. Sunder singh

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    SCO is union of weak nations against nato only russi and china cant challange them
     

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