RSS role in bombing samjhota express. mecca masjid

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  1. rizwan78

    rizwan78 Regular Member

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    At the end of the day , you may hear some day some thing like that, Ajmal kasab was on payroll of swami, and all the drama of Bombay has been created to kill karkare,

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/125908/India/swami-bares-rss-role-in-terror-acts.html
    In a damning confession before a magistrate, Mecca Masjid terror blast accused Swami Asimanand has nailed the lies of top RSS leader Indresh Kumar and exposed his links with various terror plots across the country.

    The Samjhauta Express blast took place in February 2007 that left 68 people, mostly Pakistani passengers, dead.
    Indresh, who was questioned by the Central Bureau of Investigation on December 23 for his alleged role in those plots, had said that he was being framed in a government conspiracy to pin the blame of the terrorist blasts in Ajmer, Hyderabad, Malegaon, and on the Samjhauta Express on the RSS. Asimanand's confession puts paid to that allegation.
    Asimanand confessed before a magistrate under Section 164 of the Criminal Procedure Code - thus making it legally admissible as evidence with the CBI and the National Investigating Agency (NIA) - that Indresh was the brain behind the Hindutva terror module that executed terrorist blasts in Ajmer, Hyderabad, on the Samjhauta Express and twice in Malegaon. The 26-page confession, a story on which was published first in the news magazine Tehelka, was made in Hindi before metropolitan magistrate Deepak Dabas at Tis Hazari court in the Capital on December 18.

    The preacher told the magistrate that Indresh had told him in 2005 that the RSS would support pracharak Sunil Joshi "in every way" to execute bomb attacks in the country and that Indresh had given Joshi Rs 50,000 for this. Asimanand said in the confession that after the terrorist blasts on the Samjhauta Express, Mecca Masjid and Ajmer Sharif in 2007, he had warned Joshi days before his murder in December 2007 that his (Joshi's) life "is in danger" from Indresh.

    He also confessed that he had financed Joshi for the bomb blasts and he had himself propounded a "bomb for a bomb" principle after being agitated over the 2006 blasts at the Sankatmochan temple in Varanasi. The CBI, which got a copy of Asimanand's confession from the court on December 20, sent Indresh a summons on December 21 and questioned him two days later.

    "I told the CBI that if you have been asked by your political masters to fix me, then go ahead and do it with your false and bogus stories," Indresh told Mail Today.

    Asimanand's confession states: "Indresh Kumar, who was a RSS Central Committee member, met me in 2005 in Shabari Dham. Top RSS leaders were present along with him and they had come to Shabari Dham straight from a RSS meeting in Surat. Near Pampa Sarovar in a tent, Indresh told me that it was not my job to advocate the bomb-for-a-bomb idea."

    The document adds: "He (Indresh) said RSS wanted me to do work with the tribals… Indresh said my thoughts and the RSS mindset were the same. He said Joshi had been given the job (to carry out bomb blasts) and (Indresh) Kumar said that whatever help Joshi needs, would be given."
     
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  3. anoop_mig25

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    Samjautha Train Blast Case: News and Discussions

    now i don`t know whether its true or some ploy by police
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    Posted: Sat Jan 08 2011 Mumbai, Hyderabad:
    Plight of ‘kind Muslim man’ wrongly held for Mecca Masjid led Swami to confess: Police

    Investigators claimed that a curious change of heart led Swami Aseemanand, 58, arrested for his involvement in the Mecca Masjid blast, to reveal details of the conspiracy behind five major blasts, including the February 2007 attack on the Samjhauta Express.
    Key to this, senior officials said, was Aseemanand’s interaction with a 21-year-old he met in Chanchalaguda Jail, Hyderabad, during his judicial custody in November-December last year.

    The man, Sheikh Abdul Khaleem, was among 15 arrested earlier by the Hyderabad Police investigating the Mecca Masjid blast. On November 13, 2008, The Indian Express reported that an Andhra Pradesh government panel had confirmed that these Muslim men, picked up for the Mecca Masjid blast of May 18, 2007 and the Lumbini Park and Gokul Chaat House blasts of August 26 that year, were tortured for as long as six months.

    The May blast killed nine people, the August blasts killed 42.Khaleem, 19 then and working as a lab technician, was arrested soon after. According to the panel’s report, he was blindfolded and taken to an unknown destination, beaten on the soles of his feet, stripped and then administered shots through a “small machine”.

    Aseemanand was arrested on November 19 last year from Haridwar in Uttarakhand, after he had changed location over 30 times, travelling across several states over two years to evade arrest. According to investigators, he was “not cooperating” in the initial days after his arrest.

    Though he was in the CBI’s custody for a few days in between, he spent most of the period from November 20 to December 24 in judicial custody, in solitary confinement in Chanchalaguda Jail where nearly 70 per cent of the inmates are Muslim. It was here that Aseemanand came in touch with Khaleem.

    Sources said Khaleem was “very kind and helpful” to Aseemanand, who they feared could get roughed up. Khaleem

    would read aloud newspaper reports about the Mecca Masjid bomb blast case and would provide him with warm water to drink and and share his home food with him.

    Throughout these interactions, Khaleem introduced himself as an accused arrested in a mobile smuggling case. It was the jail warden who told Aseemanand that Khaleem had been arrested earlier in relation to the Mecca Masjid blast case.

    In his confession statement, Aseemanand said it was Khaleem’s “good conduct” that moved his conscience.

    He found out during his time in custody that Khaleem had spent nearly a year and half in custody in the blast case, the confession reads. It says, “During my stay in the jail, Kalim helped me a lot and used to serve me in the jail by bringing water, food, etc for me. Due to good conduct of Kalim I was very much moved and my conscience asked me to do prayschit by making a confessional statement so that real culprits can be punished in the present case and no innocent had to suffer...”

    Jail sources said that Aseemanand had a highly disciplined routine. He was allowed out of his solitary cell at 6 am to take a short walk, exercises, and a bath. He returned to his cell at 6:30 am when about 670 other prisoners held in various barracks would be let out for the morning.

    A small group of 8-10 “good conduct” prisoners, let out in the morning to assist jail staff, would watch Aseemanand take a walk. It was during these morning walks that Aseemanand came in touch with Kaleem who would hand over water to Aseemananad, get him food, or just walk back with him to his cell.

    Kaleem was in jail for the second time in four years. After the May 18, 2007, blast at Mecca Masjid, he was picked up by police as one of the suspects but freed in December 2008 after a court dismissed all charges against him. On January 2010, his brother Abdul Khaja alias Amjad, was arrested in a joint operation by AP, TN and Kolkata Police from Chennai. He was accused of being a terror operative with links with Harkat-ul-Jehad Islami, Bangladesh (HuJI), Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM).

    On October 12, 2010, police arrested Kaleem on the charge that he was trying to give a mobile phone to his brother Abdul Khaja who is lodged in the Cherlapally Jail. Kaleem was back at Chanchalguda Jail where on November 20, Swami Aseemanand was also brought in.

    Aseemanand sought to know who the young man was and was told by jail staff that Kaleem was arrested and tortured after being wrongly implicated in the Mecca Masjid blast.
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    what do u people think
     
  4. Rahul Singh

    Rahul Singh Senior Member Senior Member

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    This very line raises thousand questions regarding all this hype. Question is the person who you are calling mastermind of 3-4 terrorist blasts, associated with hardcore organisations, who happens to be well over 55 years and been in religious work for over 20 years says these line? Assuming allegations true, If he is so kind hearted will he go on targeting scores of muslims and if he is so hardcore will he change his mentality just because of one person? Something is smelling is there.

    Onother point is what happened to ex NSA's words "We have strong evidence of ISI involvement in samjhauta express blasts". Was he lying or he was out of his mind or the evidences were imaginary?

    There are many isolated dots lying here and there but when they are connected an impression of all round conspiracy emerges something like Chakravyuha.

    We have lost faith in investigation agencies be it CBI or any investigation agency under direct or indirect control of INC. It came with no surprise when Court alleged CBI for showing unnecessary HURRY in attempting to close Bofors case. There is little doubt left that INC is trying to revive pre 1989 era of control, influence and abuse on and of government agencies especially investigation agencies.
     
  5. Rahul Singh

    Rahul Singh Senior Member Senior Member

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    At end of the day you will hear that this all allegations was part of political conspiracy centered around RSS to earn muslim votes.
     
  6. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Extremism is bad. Attaching any religion's name to it is worse. No religion preaches terrorism, violence, killing of innocents.
     
  7. S.A.T.A

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    What is the credibility of the govt and its investigation agencies consideringhr variety of people who have been accused of perpetrating various acts of terror in this country.The central govt first blamed Pakistani terror outfit LET and their co Islamic terrorists based in indian and B'desh,the HuJi,this was declared so by the govt on the floor of the parliament,so much so even the United nations report quotes the govt on the same,and now we have the govt agencies coming up with a whole new set of candidates.If the samjhauta was carried out by Hindu groups,why did they blame LeT or HuJi,on what basis and evidence.

    In the wake of this new allegation,what is going to be left govt credibility over its accusation that Pakistani terrorists carried out the Mumbai attacks,who is going to believe them and why,why would Pakistan carry forward a trial,who entire premise is base don evidence provided by the Indian govt,which thanks to the central govts flip flops will now come under a cloud of suspicion.

    Has Ajmal Kasab confessed to his role in the Mumbai attack yet,or we are going to see some swami or sadhvi 'confessing' for the same.
     
  8. Agantrope

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    When Rahul Baba was worried about the saffron terrorism with a US Envoy and the following precedings doesn't surprises me. In deed a well planned execution of the plan.
     
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    Yeah, even before authorities investigate the matter, they start pointing fingers at anybody or any organization that is familiar. So, if there's a bomb blast, the local police and upwards, in many cases will come up with the phrase, that "ISI is behind this" without even determining the facts ! I bet 90 % of the policemen in this country don't even know the full-form of ISI or how it functions. The agencies don't even know who is exploding bombs and killing common people of this country, whether it is some one from within India, or some one from the outside of this country !
     
  10. JBH22

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    Zaid Hamid was right its all Hindu zionist propaganda gandoos sent Amar Singh to the dirty job under the name of Ajmal Kasab. Hey bhagwan what's going on is the incumbent government,bureaucracy going on with such gaffes the list is going well beyond one wildest dream.
     
  11. SHASH2K2

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    There is no gaffe . These are all well planned and coordinated moves by UPA to brand RSS and other right wingers as flag bearers of saffron terrorism. Hang masterminds of parliament attack and Kasab and see how right wingers loose the edge of their sword. When entire government is there to protect terrorists whose involvement is well proven resentment is justified and there will be few fools to take extreme majors to send correct message the wrong way.
     
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  12. maomao

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    No "gaffe" here brother, the Corruption in Congress top Brass, media outlets such as NDTV, lobbing by lowlife journalists such as Burkha Dutt and Vir Sanghvi, Corporate mafia et al, has been exposed due to infighting in Congress and top echelons of Bureaucratic circles.....By Blaming Hindus they will divert attention from their "Loot and plunder" of the nation and its poor; and give fodder to already downtrodden secular (aka corrupt) media and this is the way to go Scott free for these Italian Mafiasos ruling a gullible, ignorant and illiterate junta of this nation (as initially secular media had almost blacked out Radia tapes, it was "netizens" who led the war from the front, not Cheap "Dallals" such as junkie Burkha Dutt)
     
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    Actually the title is misleading. The confession was made to a magistrate in private with no one except the magistrate and Aseemanand present. And it was made after he speant two days in judicial (not police) custody.

    The issue of Abhinav Bharat has been there since 2007 when Hemant Karkare arrested Purohit after painstaking investigation. Aseemanand was arrested in November and made his confession to a magistrate in December. The transcript of the taped coverstations were released in mid-2010 but only a few papers like Outlook, Tehelka and Economic and Political Weekly covered the tapes. You can download some transcripts translated in English that were presented in court here Chat transcripts in zip format

    So this has been going on for a while now and not only CBI, but Raj ATS, MP ATS, Guj ATS, Maha ATS and NIA all have been involved in this investigation.


    The Tehelka coverstory about this issue is a must read
    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main48.asp?filename=Ne150111Coverstory.asp

    The scanned copy of the entire confession in pdf format is here. Its Hindi so you have to read the cover story if you want an English summary.
    http://www.tehelka.com/channels/New...sion_inthecourtof_Metropolitan_Magistrate.pdf

    And in a related story, there is also report on the plight of about 32 Hyderabadis falsely arrested for bomb blasts and tortured by the police in a case of shoddy police work
    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main48.asp?filename=Ne150111CoverstoryIII.asp


    Will this affect 26/11 investigation? Ofcourse not, Pakistan has accepted its role, there are recorded conversations that cover this and Headley's confessions have amply shown the ISI link to 26/11.

    There have been another set of terrorist attacks by fanatic groups like Abhinav Bharat. Reading the leaked conversations, its mostly as a RETALIATION to terrorist attacks that were earlier launched by Pakistan. The sad thing is they decided to take revenge by attacking their own citizens. This is what ISI would love to achive to destablise the country.

    The need of the hour is to not link terrorism with religion but investigate impartially and fairly in all terror cases. The story of Hyderabadi boys not involved in terror blasts but still tortured for six months will not solve terrorism. But the investigation done in 26/11 and similar work will. Fair and impartial is need of the hour without politicising terrorism.
     
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    A cross post but relevent one .





    NEW DELHI: The RSS on Saturday sent a legal notice to the CBI, accusing it of "deliberately leaking" to the media the reported confession of right-wing activist Swami Aseemanand, the main accused in 2007 Samjhauta Express blast.

    The notice termed the leakage of Aseemanand's statement as a "politically motivated" and calculated move to "jeopardise" his reputation and deny him a fair treatment.

    "The repeated abuse of authority and misuse of law by you do not only render you liable in law as stated but show also how tainted your investigation is," it stated.

    On Friday, Swami Aseemanand, the head of the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram in Gujarat's Dangs district, has reportedly confessed before a magistrate to his involvement in the February 2007 Samjhauta train blast.

    He was arrested on November 19, 2010 for his alleged involvement in the Ajmer, Hyderabad and Samjhauta Express blasts, which took place in 2007.

    "By presenting the statement made by Aseemanand in the manner you have contrived shows your fairness is dubious and assessment of facts doctored to suit political purposes," the notice stated.

    "It is not only in breach of law but liable in addition under the Contempt of Court Act, 1971 for criminal contempt as the exercise undertaken by you is clearly intended to prejudice the minds of the public by deliberately presenting a statement the truth of which is not established as a fact."

    The method of investigation has not only to be "scrupulously straight forward" but "it should also have the appearance of being so," it said.

    "Aside from the fact you are bound that no harassment be caused to any person", there should be no "zeal to show good work" has been done and you need to be "absolutely fair and impartial," the notice added.

    Read more: RSS sends legal notice to CBI for 'leaking' Aseemanand's confession - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ession-/articleshow/7242596.cms#ixzz1AS0Puma7
     
  15. S.A.T.A

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    David Headley,according one such NIA leak,confessed to LeT's role in the Samjhauta blasts.According to the reported transcripts of Lt Col purohit's confession,even general JJ Singh was involved,if this was in reference to the former chief of the army,are we going to drag the Retd General for questioning.The case of Abhinav Bharat is most succulent,they ,among various allegations,including their role in the malegaon bomb blasts,have also been accused plotting to kill the former RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat.At the same time Abhinav bharat also has been said to have close links with the RSS.This is baffling,if this is true Abhinav Bharat had links with RSS,at the same time they plotted to kill the RSS chief.........howzaat!
     
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    well if you are to be an UNSC member and that too responsible over world terrorism, then you can't be seen as one that covers up it's faults. This is a great step by the GOI and shows maturity . what do you think happens in the US, for example the Oklahoma bombing- they don't cover it up. if India wants be looked upon as a leader, then it must act with moral authority.
     
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    LOL hahahhahahahaha If true its funny as hell :D
     
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    bottom line is if you want to be looked upon in the world's eye- as a leader and you want to be a member of UNSC council , especially given your current mandate in the UNSC - India must act with moral compass and authority. NO cover ups ! ---

    Did the US cover up its own internal terrorist(s) in Oklahoman?
     
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    Oh what a load of crap. Moral compass doesn't get you anywhere. The United Nations doesn't have a report card with extra credits for good behavior.
    What matters is power, both military and economic plus the ability to convince the world that what your doing is right (call it propaganda), even if it's inherently wrong/evil


    US ?!!! The country which invaded Iraq just for kicks, oh please...
     
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    So your advocating cover ups and falsifying reports and detaining innocent people? So basically a China or Pakistan model.. hmm okay.

    The Us has had its missteps, but guess who did not cover up the IRAQ lies? The US itself... it did not allow any WMD cover ups- in fact lead the world is shininga light and showing its screw up. Some day I will educate you on how Iraq/ Saddam played a heavy role in promoting that WMD lie ...
     
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    Strawman. I did not 'advocate' anything.

    Actually, soft power backed by hard military+economic might and ability to convince the world that your viewpoint is the right one, sounds awfully close to the 'USA model'.

    btw "Detaining inocent people" ? Guantánamo rings any bells?

    Ummm yeah after they/you invaded the country and 'bombed it with democracy'. Pretty convenient eh?

    I think I'm gonna puke right now :puke:
     

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