RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat: Our mothers are not baby factories

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    Days after BJP MP Sakshi Maharaj caused an uproar when he urged every Hindu woman to give birth to four children, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat has disowned the remark, saying “Hamaari maatayen factory nahin hain, bachcha paida karna vyaktigat nirnay hai (Our mothers are not factories, giving birth to a child is an individual choice)”.

    Bhagwat made these remarks in Kanpur on Monday while interacting with 300 delegates from 40 organisations affiliated to the Sangh. He did not name Sakshi Maharaj or others who agree with the Unnao MP: “How can I stop somebody from speaking? But one should think carefully before saying such things.”

    Those at the meeting said he did mention the “demographic imbalance” of how a fall in Hindu population posed a challenge for national security in that area.

    One of the delegates said Bhagwat advised them to give adequate representation to women and deprived sections in their organisations. “We should see whether we are giving proper representation to women who comprise 50 per cent of our population,” he was quoted as having said. “Sabhi ko manch par dikhna chahiye (people from every section should be given a chance to grow).”

    BJP Uttar Pradesh president Lakshmikant Bajpayee, state unit general secretary (organisation) Sunil Bansal and BJP national joint general secretary (organisation) Shiv Prakash were among those present.

    Bhagwat came to the defence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi while responding to queries from delegates. “Unme ichchha shakti hai, hame apne swayamsevakon par bharosa hona chahiye (He has will power, we should trust our swayamsevaks).”

    When a delegate said the BJP government at the Centre should declare the Hindu new year and birth anniversary of RSS founder K B Hedgewar — both are observed as Varsh Pratipada, one of the six festivals in the RSS calendar — as national days, Bhagwat said: “Sarkar apne dhang se kaam karti hai. Main bhi pradhan mantri ban jaaun to aise hi kaam karunga (Government works in its own way. Even if I were to become prime minister, I would work the same way).

    He told the delegates “Hamein yeh kehna band kar dena chahiye ki yeh hamaari sarkar hai (We should stop saying that this is our government).”

    When some delegates from organisations like the Bharatiya Kisan Sangh and Bharatiya Mazdoor Sangh complained that the Centre was ignoring their demands, Bhagwat said they should keep fighting for the cause of the people they represent without caring that there is a BJP government at the Centre. “Ham sabhi ko apna kaam karte rahna hai (We all have to do our jobs).”

    RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat rebuffs Sakshi: Our mothers are not baby factories | The Indian Express
     
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  3. Bangalorean

    Bangalorean Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    And recently, the BJP govt. in MH made Mumbai/Pune 24-hour cities. Nightlife yay!!

    The youngest Thackeray wanted this badly, and he was instrumental in influencing the decision.

    So much for "fascists" and "conservative Godmen party". LOL.
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    I think birth rate is not an issue. People who can afford and earn higher income, should have more than 2 kids .

    India should stay a young nation for the decades to come, to take care of itself.
     
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    TOOO late

    should have said before elections

    damaged had been done
     
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    Anyway, strange times we live in.

    The "communal Hindu PM" Modi attends a Church ceremony related to canonization ("miracles"), giving grief to RWers accusing him of promoting Christian superstition.
    The "leftist naxal NGO" Kejriwal removes pollution norms for MSMEs, sticking it into the eyes of the greenpeace types.
    The "conservative and patriarchal" RSS speaks about women's individual choice to have kids, and derides comments on "number of kids that Hindu women should have".
    The "Hindu goon" Shiv Sena youth leader @AUThackeray speaks about the need for vibrant nightlife, pushes for all-night activity in Mumbai and Pune, gives interviews like a breath of fresh air.
    The "Hindu nationalist party" BJP in Maharashtra, complies with @AUThackeray's wishes and decides to keep Mumbai and Pune open 24/7.
    The "coup master" Shekhar Gupta rejoices at BJP decisions, derides the "Talibanization" that the Congress-NCP governments had brought into Mumbai.

    Very interesting times.
     
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    When did this happen?
    Looks like he is trying to look good in front of his new Amerikan friends.

    :yell:
     
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    Happened yesterday.

    In spite of the so-called "Church attacks" being total fluff and falsehood, he was forced to be seen as "doing something" because of the lies and distortion. So he called the commissioner over a simple silly theft case that the local constable should have handled.

    The media lies and manufactured "secular" narrative reached such a crescendo that the PM was forced to do PR and make statements, most of which were totally unnecessary and uncalled for (in my opinion).

    This shows the power that these "distortionists" have. It makes me all the more determined that these people should not be allowed to set the narrative anymore. It has to be remedied. It will take time.
     
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    It's their own choice. My opinion is these people should adopt baby girls and give them good quality life and education.
     
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    Didn't you just read the green part of the OP that Bhagvat himself says he would do exactly what Modi does if he's the pm.
     
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    exactly all this defence modernization and tech and manufacturing means nothing

    if muslim population so called minority keeps raising who know how many of them are paki or bangaladeshi and hindu population keeps falling.
     
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    If only we had more people thinking like you in India- .ie people thinking that the no. of children people have is their own choice.

    Anyway,

    RANT ON //How dare you?

    Dont you know India is overpopulated and so people should not be allowed to do whatver they want with their penises and vaginas?

    We , as the educated brainwashed sheeple middle class should conform to the CONgi propaganda against overpopulation and should dictate how others use their penis and vagina.

    Yes, we should bring in a legislation on how people should use their penis and vagina, .ie how many times they "productively"(child birth) use their penis and vagina.

    Yep, we know for a fact that overpopulation is evil(though we have plenty of evidence against such moronic stands but anyway) and so it is our duty to police what people do with their private parts

    I am completely in synch with the Upper middle class people of this forum who are in favor of legislating against people having their own choice in the no. of kids they have.

    I dont find them despicable at all :thumb://RANT OFF

    PS: I am sorry if I am using strong language, but I dont know how else to respond to cretins thinking that it is okay for them to decide what others do with their private parts. Not to mention the blatant violation of reproductive rights, which is a basic human right, these cretins are advocating
     
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    Overpopulation is India`s greatest problem but you can keep on denying it. Also just mention me, I do not mind such rants.
     
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    Dude, what the ----?

    I was not even thinking about you when I wrote it. Its because its not just you who believe that people's reproductive rights should be curtailed.

    Anyway, I have no ill will wrt you nor do I think I am superior or you stupid or any such shit. I infact have a very good opinion about you personally . I wont be saying this if not for the fact that you take offence at everything I say, even if I dont quote you or intend my reply to you. Seriously, stop thinking that I am making fun of/belittling you everytime I post my opinion. Good luck


    PS: I do think that you like most Indians have been brainwashed to think population is bad, but that is ok, for till 2013 I used think like that too. Anyway have a good time :thumb:
     
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    Good moves by Sangh Parivar.

    Modi and now Bhagwat's statements will hopefully put in line errant bigots who believe Modi's victory is a carte blanche to carry out their extremist agenda.
     
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    Sorry I thought it was an indirect reference to me. Well I am tired of seeing the hardships that poor people have to face in India. I think it can be done away if govt has a smaller pop to take care of. If India has enough money I too would support a large population.
     
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    Yeah saw in today's newspaper , but didn't understand "24/7"???
     
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    So much ado about so little. As far as I am aware, Sakshi Maharaj urged women, there is nothing wrong in urging something that's legal. People can disregard this urge. If he had proposed a law demanding such a thing, it would be a whole different matter.

    As for the subject of population, as with anything else, there is always a confrontation between individual rights and the consideration of a society with finite resources. To cut this short though, I couldn't care less how many children people wish to have as long as they are not going to demand freebies from the government.
     
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    Exactly my point as well in the previous thread on the same issue. So long as the people dont demand freebies for their children, they can have as many as they want.

    This is why I pointed out how Socialism makes us all savages. Many people advocating for 2 child policy do have a point in their logic- that if more children are had by poor people, they would end up having to pay for those children, from education, healthcare , welfare and whatnot! If those people were not obligated to fend for the children of others- .ie they are not made to foot the bill of the poor having more children, then they would have no case on this matter . For ex., a poor person can have 200 children for all I care. So long as those 200 children dont rob me/demand that I use my tax for their welfare/demand that I pay for their education, why would I care? So this perception of others having more children than they can support really comes from the fact that the middle class here is forced to subsidise the children of the poor .ie Socialism and welfare


    But thats my point exactly- first these people decided to give stuff for the poor in the name of equality , morality, fairness and other such BS and now when that comes back to bite in the ass, they forget about the "morality" part and behave like savages and want to dictate how poor live(including their choice of the no. of children they have)!


    You will find the propaganda of high population only in socialist countries and that is for a reason.


    Seriously, instead of advocating for controlling what others are doing with their own life, people should advocate for making people responsible for their own choices(.ie a poor man deciding to have 10 children should be made to bear the cost of raising those 10 children)! That is the more morally acceptable choice here.


    In short, a person who is giving free stuff to others in name of equality and then trying to control what others do with their lives citing the reason that he is giving him free stuff is a total immoral douchebag.
     
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    Well, the topic is about producing more children to counter Muslim population and Sarsanghchalak is opposing such idiotic views of like Sakshi Maharaj. So it's I don't mind having a law to RESTRICT the population but still that would offend many from liberals & you know why. :D
     
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    India is overpopulated by what measure? Lack of geographic area? lack of adequate water? lack of arable land? What is the correct population of india?
     

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