Rs 5cr to take edge out of Ghar Wapsi

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  1. Vishwarupa

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    KOCHI: Finance minister K M Mani's allocation of Rs 5 crore in the budget to set up a commission to find out ways to integrate 'converted Christians' into social mainstream in the backdrop of VHP's concerted Ghar Wapsi campaign has evoked mixed reactions. Converted Christians number around 20 lakh in the state.

    Hindu Aikya Vedi general secretary Kummanam Rajasekharan wondered whether the government would succeed in retaining the converted people in Christianity by the Rs 5cr carrot. "Embracing Christianity has not made a difference to their social status ," said Rajasekharan.

    Syro Malabar Church spokesperson Fr Paul Thelakkat pointed to the reservation rights enjoyed by scheduled caste and scheduled tribe communities. "But when they embrace Islam or Christianity, the same rights are denied to them. Kerala Minority Commission had recommended what Mani announced in the budget and it is an attempt to correct an injustice done to them."

    Irudaya Rajan S, professor, Centre for Development Studies, Thiruvananthapuram, said the situation of 'converted Christians' in the state is better than the situation of dalit Hindus in education and economic background.

    Rs 5cr to take edge out of Ghar Wapsi - The Times of India
     
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    sydsnyper Senior Member Senior Member

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    This whole conversion business is taking a ridiculous turn.....
     
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    Is this move secular.
     
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    News like this makes my blood boil. The hypocrisy and double-standards are so stark, it makes me very angry to see the reactions and comments of our "intellectuals".

    So lets see - all these bloody "secular intellectuals" strongly opposed GharWapsi and screamed, ranted and raved about it calling it "fascism", "religious intolerance", and worse. Here we have a case where 20 lakh people are officially converted Christians!! Where was all the bloody outrage when these 20 million were converted? Were the secular intellectuals sleeping? Or are we to understand that outrage is only one-way, religious conversion is permitted only out of Hinduism? Say so openly then, we'll react accordingly.

    Syro Malabar Church spokesperson Fr Paul Thelakkat is talking out of his ass. Why does he want reservation benefits for people who convert to Christianity? If you want reservation benefits, don't convert. Simple. Reservation is for Hindus who were historically discriminated against. Reservations will not be extended. Period. Cry me a river.
     
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    How abt centre announcing a scheme to counter kerla govt?
     
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    He is playing for vote poilitics in the upcoming election.
    His moves to be the CM of Kerala badly backfired on him by a Coup planned by the running CM and a prominent leader of minority party.

    With such swinging of tax payers money he is making him more relevant in the political equation.
     
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    Last year-during LS 2014 campaign NaMo did a rally in kerala - he didn't say Lotus will bloom in kerala but he said "modi wave" will be felt even in Kerala. Congress had its vote bank safe so they ignored the comment, left commies laughed their a*s off saying modi's delusional.
    When results came bjp vote share jumped to whopping record double digit 11% (no less an achievement in naxal infected lands) eating into left vote share at many places.
    Fast forward to present these same Marxist comies who once used to say all 'temples' should be demolished to pave way for other useful buildings are now seen busy opening 'sanskrit centres' to regain votes.
     
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    Are the Christians indirectly admitting that social discrimination is rampant within their community?
     
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    How about Kerala Hindus start voting in BJP next time?

    Seriously, I am more fed up by the liberal scum than at the hypocritical Christians
     
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    I will happily sacrifice Kerala and WB if the Hindus dont get their sense back. It will help the ROI to see practical effects of secular BS and communism. 2 states to save the country=well worth it
     
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    Just see how the Kerala super-secular gangs behave on an enemy forum. Really disgusting. They abuse our elected leaders and take pride in beef eating culture.
     
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    I say we use them as a live experiment on what will happen if secular scum have their way:thumb:

    These scum believe it is better to be ruled by mughaldom, then let them have it - all the while we take precautions against such behavior in our home states
     
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    Some who proclaim to be the leaders and representatives of the Christian faith are are brazen about it and demanding reservations for "Dalit Christians".

    A classic case of having their cake and eating it too.
     
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    How about you tell me what hindus got by voting BJP?

    Oh wait, they're secular so they don't appease anyone!

    Then why not show the balls to repeal discriminatory laws?

    Why not take the rabid anti hindu media head on instead of letting them lead the narrative? Watch yesterday's ndtv dialogue with IMF chief to realize the dirty shameless game parnoy roy and his ilk are playing but you'll see bjp spokies and jaitley sahab on the channel the very next day

    12k people mass converted in AP just the other day, why not bring an anti conversion law?

    Why not check inflow of conversion money?

    Why no UCC?

    Why not let free temples from government clutches?

    They have done nothing and you want keratites to vote for 'hindu' party! Great!!
     
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    Here is the Retired IPS officer Julio Ribeiro speaking out against Ghar Wapasi.

    He thinks Modi should 'prove his secularism and development agenda' by acting against Ghar Wapasi, but Evangelism is merely to be dealt with by simple policing. As if the fraud and Rice bribery in the name of Christ haven't already denied this country a chance at success. And why must Modi listen? Hell why must we listen, even if Modi asks us to? How is Ghar Wapasi threatening the development agenda?

    And this even though he knows well enough that his own ancestors may have been defrauded and bribed with Rice.

    What a conflict of interests for a Secular to have this kind of an old age.


    Attempts to make India saffron Pakistan won’t work: Former IPS Julio Ribeiro - The Economic Times

     
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    I am not a BJP spokes person. But ,they are the only current alternative here. But go ahead, you can continue voting for mullahs and evangelicals and commies. I dont care.
    Why should they? Why dont the Hindus have the balls to convert back others?
    They did that remember? NGOs under scanner, bans on the illegal NGOs and illegal using of the funds?

    SO vote for the islamists and evangelicals. Apprantly they have done more for Kerala.IMO, Kerala and WB should be sacrificed for the greater good of the ROI. You will next time hear about Rs.5k crores doled out to stop ghar whapsi
     
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    No way. Kerala's serene backwaters, the lush forests and trekkers paradise in Wayanad, the growing cities of Kochi and Trivandrum, the domestic honeymoon destination of choice - sacrificing that is not acceptable to me. Not even WB for that matter. Calcutta, with its great history and the sole economic engine of East India, the beautiful and haunted forests of the Sunderbans, the exquisite pottery of Murshidabad, the only link to our North-East - "sacrificing" WB is unacceptable.

    We will fight it out and ensure that Kerala and WB are brought back into the Dharmic fold and out of "secular clutches". The very thought of "sacrificing" them gives me the jitters.
     
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    Question - How can you save the people who dont want to be saved?
     
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    BJP ruled states must allocate funds to edge out "Conversions from Hinduism"
     
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    Though there is a large population of ultra-seculars in WB and Kerala, let us not forget that some of the strongest proponents of RW ideology and thought (economic also) are also from WB/Kerala. All we need to do is give them more prominence, and allow their thoughts to gain influence among the fence-sitters in WB/Kerala. That will stem the rot. Then, the reclamation will begin when the leftists and agmark-certified "seculars" in these states begin to change sides, gradually.
     

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