Rs 200-cr defective guns give the BSF a headache!!!

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  1. bhramos

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    Italian arms major Beretta has agreed to replace faulty weapons supplied by them after they failed at a BSF test fire facility in Gujarat recently.
    Last year, the BSF had awarded Beretta a contract of more than 30,000 sub-machine guns at an approximate cost of Rs200 crore.
    The first consignment of 17,000 guns was received last September and distributed among BSF personnel on the border to replace INSAS and other rifles.
    But documents accessed by Headlines Today suggest there was a major goof-up in the procurement of the consignment.
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    Faulty: The test fire report suggests the barrel of the weapons may explode and cause serious injury

    The high-tech MX4 9mm Storm assault rifle failed the test, internal correspondence between the BSF's Gujarat frontier unit to the Delhi-based BSF Headquarters in January says. It says that when the sample weapon was test fired, it bulged.
    The test fire report suggests that the gun would not only be ineffective in neutralising the enemy, but there are also chances of the barrel of the weapon exploding and causing serious injuries. The document also noted other defects in the sample weapon.
    Having discovered the shortcomings during test fire, the BSF's Gujarat frontier unit had sought advice from its headquarters on whether they should dump the weapons.
    When BSF Headquarters received this communication, senior officers summoned officials from Beretta.
    The documents also suggest other serious problems with these guns. Corrosion was found on 113 guns. 164 guns had tool marks and nine guns had machining rings.
    When BSF officers informed the arms firm, Beretta had sent a team of experts. BSF DIG Vikas Chandra said Beretta officials visited the test facility in Gujarat and examined the weapons in question.
    The experts noted what was suspected to be corrosion was lead residue. The officials, however, promised to replace the defective weapons.
    Chandra said defects had been noted only from the Gujarat sector so far.
    But the question that arises is how the BSF provisioning unit failed to spot the defects. Last year, a DIG-level officer along with his team had visited Italy to clear the consignment.
    The elite SPG force had also imported the same guns recently, but there were no shortcomings in their consignment. Chandra said it wasn't possible to check each weapon at the time of clearance and if defects are found even at a later stage, corrective steps will be taken.


    Read more: Rs 200-cr defective guns give the BSF a headache | Mail Online
     
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  3. Godless-Kafir

    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    Serves them right to go buy Italian weapons. How much does it take to make it here... :tsk:
     
  4. natarajan

    natarajan Senior Member Senior Member

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    Italy ??? you could guess what went wrong
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Beretta is not a bad weapon manufacturer.

    However, the great strategist and a military thinker and a know all Chidambaram could explain!

    He also thought that the Army should be deployed in Chattisgarh.

    Heavens! what is the police and paramilitary under his command for?

    Protecting his turf?
     
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  6. sesha_maruthi27

    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Can anyone post the pic of the Beretta that was ordered........
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    In the original Bond novels, author Ian Fleming armed the famous character with a Beretta 418,
     
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  9. balai_c

    balai_c Regular Member

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    And we guys keep blaming poor insas! Guess looks are not everything.
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    Compared with mp5, mx4 is a slightly better gun wth long barrell,light weight ,better accuracy and stability.So the selection was not wrong.what went wrong was there happened in the beretta factory.And if they had agreed to replace the damaged weapons then the issue wont be a big headache.Any way. the reputation of beretta will be affected.
     
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  12. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Why buy sub-machine Guns ?

    Buying Sub-machine gun to replace Rifles ?
     
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    SPIEZ Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is this SMG really under the possession of bsf ?
     
  14. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    May be first batch..
     
  15. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Because Chidambaram knows best.

    He was even advising the Army how to deploy in Chattisgarh!
     
  16. anoop_mig25

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    well then blame can be made upon army so that his record remains clean and when in future when he would tell his story to gransons-daughter he can proudly pro-claim that under his stint as home minister very less number of bsf were killed in action
     
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  17. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Baretta used to stand for quality... what happened?
     
  18. lemontree

    lemontree Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    Did the BSF not carry out any field trials?
    Does the reporter understand that difference between a rifle and a carbine, and that a carbine does not replace an assault rifle as a standard weapon?
    Why is a klashnikov used to depict a Baretta product?
     
  19. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Indian Media is good in making sensational news and titles only, They don't have any idea about military when they talk about it..

    There are few exception though..
     
  20. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    company decided to replace the defective guns.

    BTW they sold 30,000 guns for 200,00,00,000 INR.
     
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