Rs. 11000 Crore for Modernization of Central Paramilitary Forces

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CCS Approved 11000 Crore Rupees Project for Modernisation of Central Paramilitary Forces

The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) under the Prime Minister of India, Manmohan Singh approved 11000 crore Rupees project on 1 May 2013 for modernisation of central paramilitary forces. These forces include ITBP as well, which is responsible for guarding the Sino-Indian border. The approval will be implemented in five years duration, beginning 2013-14 fiscal year.

The approval of the project is followed by altercation along Sino-Indian border in Ladakh. The approval will also benefit Border Security Force (BSF), Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB), Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP), National Security Guard (NSG), Assam Rifles and Central Industrial Security Force (CISF).

Modernisation will make sure that all these forces get better night vision devices, arms, vehicles, patrolling equipment and ammunition along with infrastructural upgrade

CCS Approved 11000 Crore Rupees Project for Modernisation of Central Paramilitary Forces

 

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Impact Assessment of Modernization Scheme for CPMFs

http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/ImpAssessment-for-cpmf.pdf

study period from 2001-2010

 

[Ray]

They don't require modernisation.

They require TRAINING!

But then Ministers and Bureaucrats, who have no clue of operations, feel that weapons and numbers are what delivers.

One pities these stupid people at the helm of our destiny!

 

[DivineHeretic]

They don't require modernisation.

They require TRAINING!

But then Ministers and Bureaucrats, who have no clue of operations, feel that weapons and numbers are what delivers.

One pities these stupid people at the helm of our destiny!

Who can blame our Babus? We'd be lucky if they even understood what COIN meant, let alone how to deploy forces.. Someone from MHA, a specialist babu, actually wanted bayonets for the Sniper rifles they procure....

But since we are talking about weapons,

during Vietnam, the US experts, based on statistics, were of the opinion that in a short range to medium range gun-battle, the gun and the number of bullets fired ( and consequently, the rate of fire of the gun) determined the outcome and the number of casualties on either side, not so much the training.

The result young soldiers were given fully auto M-16s, and then came the realisation that the inexperienced soldiers would waste too much ammo and were out of rounds very quickly in a gun battle, end result...dead. The experienced and well trained Marine recons and Army SFs, with their older M14s, managed far better kill:killed ratios

Statistics and analysis can only tell you so much. You need someone experienced in the said field. I kind of like the way the US generals enter politics. It helps when a soldier enters a high political post,( by political means only). Atleast he knows what to make of the reports and reccomendations of the lazy bureacrats.

But here, the generals, and the officer class (except Jaswant Singh) turn blue at the very notion of politics. Good for democracy, I guess, but good for the nation? I don't know.

 

[Ray]

during Vietnam, the US experts, based on statistics, were of the opinion that in a short range to medium range gun-battle, the gun and the number of bullets fired ( and consequently, the rate of fire of the gun) determined the outcome and the number of casualties on either side, not so much the training.

This is a very important aspect you have mentioned since quite a few out here want to claim that the IA should have fully auto weapons instead of semi automatic.

Could you give a link?

But here, the generals, and the officer class (except Jaswant Singh) turn blue at the very notion of politics. Good for democracy, I guess, but good for the nation? I don't know.

It is all a question of hurly burly of politics - money and muscle to get elected.

Both are missing and no political party would like them around.

Look at Mickey Manmohan.

A decent man with impeccable credential.

He never got elected!

That is acceptable to some extent, but look what it has caused him.

He is appearing ridiculously incompetent, and what is worse, an acclaimed economist, is now looking as if he does not know his subject having presided over Indian economic demise bringing immense woes to the rich as more to the poor!

And the Congress Party doing everything to make him as the villain of the piece, Aruna Roy resigning, Manmohan claiming that Sonia G never interfered and he alone was the fool and so on!

As GB Shaw said - Politics is the last resort for the scoundrels!

 

[DivineHeretic]

This is a very important aspect you have mentioned since quite a few out here want to claim that the IA should have fully auto weapons instead of semi automatic.

Could you give a link?



It is all a question of hurly burly of politics - money and muscle to get elected.

Both are missing and no political party would like them around.

Look at Mickey Manmohan.

A decent man with impeccable credential.

He never got elected!

That is acceptable to some extent, but look what it has caused him.

He is appearing ridiculously incompetent, and what is worse, an acclaimed economist, is now looking as if he does not know his subject having presided over Indian economic demise bringing immense woes to the rich as more to the poor!

And the Congress Party doing everything to make him as the villain of the piece, Aruna Roy resigning, Manmohan claiming that Sonia G never interfered and he alone was the fool and so on!

As GB Shaw said - Politics is the last resort for the scoundrels!

Several links are available....

This is for the M16A2, developed on request of USMC, after their experience in Vietnam...

The action was also modified, replacing the fully automatic setting with a three-round burst setting.[11]-When using a fully automatic weapon, inexperienced troops often hold down the trigger and "spray" when under fire. The U.S. Army concluded that three-shot groups provide an optimum combination of ammunition conservation, accuracy and firepower.---Venola, Richard (2005). "What a Long Strange Trip It's Been".-Book of the AR-15-

It was also found during the Vietnam war, that many soldiers would put their M16s into full-automatic mode and when in a firefight, new soldiers would often hold down the trigger and shoot entire magazines into the bushes in a few seconds, without killing a single enemy. This caused many of them to run out of ammunition prematurely. Also, the act of firing in full-automatic mode makes the rifle more difficult to control and thereby reduces accuracy. The US military conducted various tests a decided to replace the full-automatic firing mode with a three-round burst mode (i.e. upto 3 rounds would fire when the trigger is held down), because the three-round burst was determined to be the optimum balance between accuracy, ammunition conservation and firepower
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Firearms History, Technology & Development: History and Development of the Assault Rifle - VII


There are several other references about the inefficiency and ineffectiveness of full auto AR fire...

Here's one...

http://kitup.military.com/2011/01/full-auto-not-the-way-to-go.html

Note the author....Brandon Webb, an ex NAVY SEALS sniper.

There are also dozens of such articles by ex SFs, including from the Spetznaz, where the full auto is considered ineffective.

 

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One of the objective of the modernization was also

To continuously upgrade the skill of the troops by providing training facilities.

So, the vision document had that in mind
But, what then what went wrong?
Now,
Who decides the following
1. What shall be the duration of basic training?
2. What shall be the components of basic training?
3. To review whether or not the training imparted is in-line with the operational requirement of the agency in question.
4. To see to it that training methodology is updated with the change in scenario and tactics of adversary
5. What kind of specialized training is required and to whom it should be given?
6. what kind of training aids shall be procured to see that training imparted is more effective.
7. How a continues and effective training is provided to each man/woman joining and in active duty in the agency.
8. How much and how often the plans envisioned on tables be validated on fields?

These are a few questions that comes to one's mind.

I think the answer would be a technical panel which includes the top bosses of Paramilitary.

They are also responsible for deciding what components of the grant should be dedicated for expansion, procurement of weapons, procurement other essential stuff and most importantly training.

So, a committee was formed with a intention of the following

Under this scheme, each of the CPMF was required to prepare a futuristic perspective plan with details of items to be acquired.

But, still the results are not what is desired,
So, if the Top bosses of these CAPF / paramilitary are clue-less can you blame Politicians and bureaucrats alone?

Note: quoted text is from the pdf in post no.2

 

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A good account is presented in the below article for reforms for IPS cadre for CAPFs who will solve the leadership issues these organisation faces

The Central Police Organisations have a role to play in maintaining and safeguarding the security and integrity of the country. The para-military forces have an intermediate position between the military and the police. There are some units like the Central Reserve Police Force which are closer to the police. There are others like the Border Security Force which are closer to the Army, The main point is that they have a unique position from which assistance, when required, can be given either to the military or to the Police. Then we have other Central Police Organisations like the IntelligenceBureau, the Research and Analysis Wing, the Central Bureau of Investigation etc. which have their own distinct role and require a high calibre of officers drawn from a variety of sources of which the police will remain the main base

and so the solution proposed is

The unique character of the para-military organisations is maintained by a delicate
balance in officering, in rules and regulations and in the philosophy of their work. These
organisations need officers from a wide variety of sources such as the Police, the Armed Forces, the Engineers—Civil and Electrical—the Computer Experts and other specialists We recommend that two Central IPS cadres should be constituted one for the para-military organisations like the BSF, CRPF, ITBP and the other for such organisations as the IB, CBI and RAW. We are of the view that such Central cadres can be constituted within the framework of Article 312 of the Constitution

and

We envisage three sources of recruitment in these Central cadres. The first would be direct intake of IPS officers through the Civil Services Examinations. This means the CPOs will no longer directly recruit any officer other than IPS officers coming through the U.P.S.C. The second source would be Army officers and specialists such as engineers, doctors, computer specialists etc., who would enter laterally as considered necessary from time to time. These officers will have the option to join the IPS through a process of selection. The third source would be IPS officers on deputation from the various States.

Page 18,19 of the below pdf under the heading " Entry of IPS officers into Central Police Organisations " for details
http://bprd.nic.in/writereaddata/linkimages/8859827331-SIXTH REPORT.pdf

 

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Just a simple question why recruiting IPS officers to paramil on deputation when there is direcct recruitment to the post of Asst commandants.Why always IPS officers to ledd the para millitary as every one knows that they dont have much training in the roles done by para military whicch are doing mainly CT ops

 

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Just a simple question why recruiting IPS officers to paramil on deputation when there is direcct recruitment to the post of Asst commandants.Why always IPS officers to ledd the para millitary as every one knows that they dont have much training in the roles done by para military whicch are doing mainly CT ops

The question is not so simple as you project it to be
Historically IPS have been the finest police officers to lead the Police.
Good officers from non-IPS cadres were promoted to IPS cadre.
so, It was always a IPS who lead a police force. similar to their civil counterpart.(IAS)

But as you rightfully pointed out this cadre recently have been found wanting in their leadership for CAPF's who have a unique position between Armed forces and policing force.
So, the article from where I have quoted recommends few points to remove certain problems pertaining to IPS, among them are a few point related to IPS in CAPF's
The article proposes that IPS should be the only directly recruited officer in CAPF's from UPSC.
But,
The recommendation are to be followed after a series of reforms proposed in the article.
The prominent being creating a center cadre of IPS for CAPF's who would be of 20-24 years and undergo 5yrs of training including field work.
The other offices will be from armed forces and other officers from CAPF's who will have the option to get promoted as IPS later
The rest officers in CAPF's will be IPS from state cadres to improve inter-operatibility.

So, when young officers are recruited as IPS in centre cadre and given 5 yrs of training on specifics of operation on CAPF's then there will be no requirement of asst-commandant level direct requirement.

But, in the present format, the IPS still represents a feudal representative and they occupying top-level positions do hamper the operation as they are not exposed to that kind of operations in their careers.
Also asst-commandant officers who are promoted fair well because they have considerable experience of leading field operation.

What the CRPF lacks the most is efficient leadership. They have officers upto the rank of Commandant who come up from the rank of the Assistant Commandant when they join as young officers. These officers lead the troops in all operations. Unfortunately, the feudal mindset and police culture affects them as well. What is required are officers well trained in CI operations. Even more important are higher level leadership. This is where the rot lies since most of the DIGs and IGs and DGs are IPS officers who have never served in counter-insurgency operations. While they may have been excellent policemen, they have never led troops in CI operations and have no clue how to go about planning such operations. Thus on the ground, CRPF troops go around harassing villagers – adding fire to the fuel of LWE.

CRPF: A force in denial | India Security Monitor

But there is considerable tussle between IPS and non-iPS in CAPF's for promotion and due to skewed procedures deserving is not always promoted

The Central Police Organisations have a total number of 1416 posts of Class I officers out of which 269 i.e. 19%; are occupied by IPS officers and the bulk of these are in the ranks of DIsG, IsG and above. There are only 2 non-IPS I&G and 31 non-IPS DIsG and they belong to the respective CPOs. There are now 1114 officers in the Senior Time Scale belonging to these organisations who aspire for the higher posts in the Central Police Organisations.

Quoted from pdf from post no. 8
The data is old but gives a good picture.

But all is not lost in the current situation and tussle between IPS and non-IPS

First non-IPS officer to head BSF operations at Indo-Bangla border

First non-IPS officer to head BSF operations at Indo-Bangla border - Times Of India

But IPS is an excellent cadre but their training are not in sync with demand that CAPF's face.

Some of the recommendation might have been already accepted by PMO as
was proposed a lateral entry of CAPF, armed forces and state police forces into IPS cadre

UPSC to hold separate exams to fill vacant Indian Police Services posts

But unfortunately AFAIK this is presently under stay order.

 

[sayareakd]

more money to buy better equipment for anti terror operations.

 

[Ray]

Police officers do not lead.

The SHO leads.

In any operations, officers have to lead and not NCOs.

In the police forces of India, an inspector is a non-gazetted police officer ranking above a Sub-Inspector and below a Deputy Superintendent of Police (DySP) or an Assistant Commissioner of Police (ACP).

The Station House officers of Police Stations in this territory shall be in the rank of SubInspectors of Police
http://police.pondicherry.gov.in/Po...ice Station and the Station House Officer.pdf