Row over book by senior Bengal cop

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  1. Ray

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    As I have always said and maintained, the Bengali Muslims cannot be clubbed with the same mentality that they allegedly display in the rest of India.

    They (the Bengalis) are generally different from the stereotype because the Bengali culture and mindset is more emancipated and usually beyond the narrow divides of religiosity and religious fanaticism!

    That is why BJP has no presence in Bengal, nor fundamentalist Islamic political parties or Islamic radical clergy.
     
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    ^^Are the Bangladeshi Muslims settled in the NE of the same mentality overall? Just curious. In Bangladesh, one often hears of persecution of the Hindu minority by the majority.
     
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    I don't know what to say? Direct Action Day makes me think otherwise!

    Recent Riots in Murshidabad also is a no brainer here!

    P.S: I know as usual we will blame pakistan and Jinnah for everything and not look within!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There is a difference between Muslims of Bengal and the Muslims of Bangladesh and also that of illegal Muslim from Bangladesh!

    While the are all Bengali Muslims, but they are not Muslims of Bengal except the first named category, who have imbibed the concept of secularism in a greater degree than those Muslim of other parts of India and the two other categories of Muslims who speak Bengali, but are not Muslims of Paschimbongo (West Bengal).
     
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    Even East Bengalis are quite liberal and secular people. Bangladesh is a thousand times more secular than Pakistan, and refuses to call itself an Islamic state. Hindu persecution in Bangladesh is largely the result of the Pakistani stooges under Khalida Zia, and her allied Jamaat-e-Islami.

    It is also important to note that the persecution of Hindus in Bangladesh was brought to international attention by none other than Taslima Nasreen, and look how she was treated by India. So which is the real communal state?
     
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    You know that Taslima Nasreen was forced to flee Bangladesh due to persecution by Islamists, right? If Bangladesh was really secular and pro freedom of speech, she wouldn't have had to live overseas like a refugee.
     
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    Do educate us as to where Muslims of West Bengal have clamoured for an Islamic State.

    The psyche that was prevalent during pre Independence cannot be taken as an example for contemporary times. There was even a thought that there would be a United Bengal and the votaries were Sarat Bose and Fazlul Haq! Hence, those days because of the communal overheat, it was not unusual for a lot of kiteflying being done.

    Who say Jinnah alone was the architect of India's division?

    Gandhi and Nehru too played their stellar role!

    What recent riots in Murshidabad?
     
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    It's sad to see a Muslim, taking a call for Secularism and having the balls to write a book about it being hounded by the State administration instead of felicitating him.

    East Bengalis: Food habit and language are a little different from West Bengalis, irrespective of religion. While Bengalis from West Bengal relish on Prawn Malai Curry and it's they who invented it, East Bengalis relish on Steamed Hilsa invented by them. Most Bengalis nowadays relish both such as me.
     
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    That is right she had to flee.

    Persecution of Hindus in Bangladesh happens. It has happened more so because of the overdrive of the BNP to woo the Saudi backed radical Muslim political parties and organisation so as to garner votes.

    However, the persecution is less vociferous than Pakistan.

    But we are here talking about Muslims of West Bengal vs the stereotype of Muslims of India.

    We are not talking about Muslims of Pakistan or Bangladesh or the illegals in India, whose psyche has been fashioned by a Muslim majority theocratic State duly assisted by Saudi backed Islamic forces and organisations flushed with funds!
     
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    The hounding is not so much for writing secular issues.

    The hounding is because a Muslim has exposed the fraud perpetuated through sham and hypocritical overtures and gestures by the Indian political class to portray a bleeding heart love for the Muslims.

    I had in an earlier post on Political Iftars and doing Namaz said the same thing that it was a fraud being perpetuated by the politicians for votes and not quite acceptable in pure Islamic terms.
     
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    Exactly, I meant that only. I mean, look at the sorry state of affairs in India right now. Scams, riots, social unrest. Politicians are the biggest scoundrels in this country. Every other wants a vote bank, be it through reservations, religious polarization, giving free doles. No one thinks about how the society and along with the State can be developed. And Muslims being the lot uneducated fall more for it.
     
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    First off this is a commendable book by Sri Nazrul Islam. A good secular education is just what the average Muslim youngster requires.

    Having said that, radical Wahhabi ideas are spreading like poison from Saudia Arabia and other ME states that have plenty of petro dollars to spare and Bengalis or any others are not immune to it. The younsgters picked up in Karnataka included a doctor (son of a doctor himself), a DRDO engineer, an MCA student, a journalist, etc. Malappuram, a Muslim majority district in Kerala, has 95% + literacy and no poverty yet it is becoming a hotbed of radical Islam.

    As for BJP not having a base in West Bengal, I think it might have something to do with WB becoming more and more Islamic as BD immigrants, aided and abetted by Congress, CPM and now TMC, stream in across the border. Plus the fact that BJP itself is a relatively young party at 30 years. BJP did not have a presence in Karnataka as well until the early to mid 90's. Bangladesh is not an Islamic state, as yet, but its national religion is Islam - small difference but one step away from being.
     
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    I totally agree with you.

    Treat all as equal and give all a secular education and keep the Saudi indoctrination at bay.

    Throw out the illegals who are polluting the fish pond.

    All will be well in India then.
     
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    Note the difference from the stereotyped Muslim mentality!

    And now, he has taken on the politicians for their sham charade of having their hearts bleeding for the Muslim with hypocritical gestures and overtures which is all Smoke and Mirror and even can be said to be ridiculing the Islamic practices since they are not exercised in the manner it could be par for the course!
     
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    No real need for that line. Its not like the TMC or Communists are the paragon of political excellence.


    They are emancipated enough to accept the discrimination and actually feel proud of it...:p
     
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    This cop is true to his namesake. He is a Bidrohi too.
     
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    While we all know the hypocrisy of TMC and the Communists, I think that was correct in the context of fundamentalism that is affecting the society today. There are radicals on both sides, which we have to agree. It comes as a flame-bait. :bplease:
     
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    At that time it was not the Muslims of West Bengal, but the muslims of United Bengal who supported the Muslim League and were its biggest supporters - not the Punjabi Muslims, not the Pathan Muslims.

    West Bengal and East Pakistan came later on.
     
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    Ok..fine let me not divert from the topic.

    Good start by the cop. Hope he finds support and the actual objective if his gets fulfilled. If not now, atleast later.
     

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