Rise of Minority Muslim Population Poses Challenge to India’s Democracy

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  1. bengalraider

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    This report by Yale global must be read to understand the challenges facing India unless we somehow push the Islamic population to accept and use the fruits of a secular education and a modern lifestyle and career.


     
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    @bengalraider seeing you post in a non defence forum for the first time IIRC


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    If demographics are maintained then it's a no problem, I am worried for the drop of Hindu % , so far as Muslims are concerned, my worries are for illegal migrants from BD and all over including Rohingyas, I have read that illegally immigrated Muslims are in numbers between 3-5 crores in India !!?
     
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    If literacy rate goes up, fertility rate will come down. But many of muslims in india are illiterate so thats why their population keeps growing.
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    What bull shit. So why is Kerala with high literacy having high Muslim TFR compared to Hindus or xtians?

    And why is wb muslims having a TFR of 4.1 when Bangladesh Muslims and wb hindus, have a TFR of 2.2?

    Indian Muslim TFR is 3.2 when the Saudi (the ultra orthodox Muslim den) is having a TFR of 2.5. Why?

    This is all a sinister plan to outbreed Hindus. I have seen them saying this with my own eyes.


    India needs selective compulsory family planning for Muslims. Else, we would face a civil war when Muslims inevitably reach 20%, like time and again they have shown.
     
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    you will fight wars on online forums like a true chhadi warrior and co.
     
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    Hindu life expectancy rate at birth is 65 years and for muslims it is 68 years, And in infant mortality and child nutrition muslims lead hindus as per the following link,

    Sachar committee report didnot rely on scientific methods of analysis in arriving at the conclusions.
    I have read articles on the dubious nature of the sachar committee report in mags,

    The economic times , new delhi april 5, 2007 dated link below gives some interesting conclusions to the contrary.

    https://books.google.co.in/books?id=JSpWAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=mistakes+in++the+sachar+committee+reports&source=bl&ots=ESHV2xef2Z&sig=YZdOHG76LWFLg-PoZvMi1XatnM0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC4Q6AEwA2oVChMI592BwLW4yAIVDHCOCh0XFQPa#v=onepage&q=mistakes in the sachar committee reports&f=false

    In infant mortality, life expectancy at birth muslims were better placed than hindus as per page 36 of sachar report claims the above link.

    Also the difference between muslim house hold income and hindu household income is a mere 3000 rupees per annum , with hindus at 61000 rupees and musilms at 58000 rupees not a sea change.

    Sachar reluctantly admits that broadly muslims have a slim advantage in life expectancy over average population, as per his own words according to this link.

    Even the lower literacy rate among muslims is attributed to lower female literacy rate among muslim women, which is due to the religious orthodoxy and nothing else.

    So how come Sachar came to the conclusion that a mere 5 percent lesser annual family income(but expenditure levels are the same!!!) and 6 percent lower literacy rate made muslims so backward?

    The Sc says the condition of backwardness is,"that a community must be substantially lower than the national average to qualify as backward", But ,muslim community leads in three important social indicators of infant mortality, child mortality at birth and life expectancy at birth and lags marginally 5 and 6 percent in literacy and income level.

    So how come sachar pronounce his judgement that musilm community is substantially disadvantaged?

    Why no Mainstream media has ever highlighted these significant findings ?
     
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    India needs a two child policy on the lines of China's one child policy!This is best for both religions as we all know that over population combined with climatic change is going to cause a resource crunch where both Muslims and Hindus will suffer.
    There will be protests but the best time to pass this regulation shall be post NAMO winning his second term in 2019. The Bjp will start to dominate 70-80% of the Rajya Sabha by 2018. Also Advani should become the President in 2017. It's a dream team to finally set India's future on the right track.
     
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    We can do that as soon as sun rises in the west and the :flypig:
     
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    Spoken like a typical Hindu with no backbone.

    Why should Hindus adopt family planning? Human resource is good and there are several countries with a higher population density than India which don't adopt family planning - UK, Netherlands, Italy etc. Why should we.


    The problem from high Muslim TFR is not economic burden (though it has the potential for turning into an economic burden) but the security challenge it poses.

    So instead of addressing it, you are suggesting a clamp on both Hindus and Muslims just to sound neutral..at least have some spine to speak your mind out. Really, what is your concern - population or Muslim % of population. If population is your real concern, would accept two child policy or one child policy only for Hindus? Answer honestly dude:rolleyes:
     
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    Given current constitutional framework, I do not think forcing family planning for one community can work. SC will strike down any such law. So, in the short run the policy would cover whole country.
     
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    Sachar committee report didnot rely on scientific methods of analysis in arriving at the conclusions.
    I have read articles on the dubious nature of the sachar committee report in mags,


    The economic times , new delhi april 5, 2007 dated link below gives some interesting conclusions to the contrary.

    Hindu life expectancy rate at birth is 65 years and for muslims it is 68 years, And in infant mortality and child nutrition muslims lead hindus as per the following link,


    https://books.google.co.in/books?id=JSpWAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=mistakes+in++the+sachar+committee+reports&source=bl&ots=ESHV2xef2Z&sig=YZdOHG76LWFLg-PoZvMi1XatnM0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC4Q6AEwA2oVChMI592BwLW4yAIVDHCOCh0XFQPa#v=onepage&q=mistakes in the sachar committee reports&f=false

    In infant mortality, life expectancy at birth muslims were better placed than hindus as per page 36 of sachar report claims the above link.

    Also the difference between muslim house hold income and hindu household income is a mere 3000 rupees per annum , with hindus at 61000 rupees and musilms at 58000 rupees not a sea change.

    Sachar reluctantly admits that broadly muslims have a slim advantage in life expectancy over average population, as per his own words according to this link.

    Even the lower literacy rate among muslims is attributed to lower female literacy rate among muslim women, which is due to the religious orthodoxy and nothing else.

    So how come Sachar came to the conclusion that a mere 5 percent lesser annual family income(but expenditure levels are the same!!!) and 6 percent lower literacy rate made muslims so backward?

    The Sc says the condition of backwardness is,"that a community must be substantially lower than the national average to qualify as backward", But ,muslim community leads in three important social indicators of infant mortality, child mortality at birth and life expectancy at birth and lags marginally 5 and 6 percent in literacy and income level.

    So how come sachar pronounce his judgement that musilm community is substantially disadvantaged?

    Why no Mainstream media has ever highlighted these significant findings ?
    Rakesh Basant an IIM professor and the lone hindu member of the sachar committee bitterly complained that people with no experience in data were analysing data and while he was givn little work all minority community members were doing disproportionatley large amount of work with no experience on data handling
     
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    Then, we need a constitutional amendment. That is all. Then SC can do jack .

    Again, if you want to defang your enemy, you can't pull your teech and expect him to do the same . that is just stupid.


    And I would like to hear honesty here. What is the concern from Muslim demographics? High population or high % of population?
     
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    I heard somewhere for 50,000/- four Muslim(each) families converted to xianity.

    So 3 steps

    1. Give funds to VHP for conversion (ghar wapsi).

    2.Encourage xian missionaries to convert muslims.(Vatican money).

    3.Kashmir strategy offer 3 choices to muslims like KASHMIRI Muslims offered to Minority Hindus.
    Problem solved :biggrin2:
     
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    You are a khalistani pos which love paki co(ks which is evident on the various threads you posted . now at least have the balls to admit that you are one instead of being a slimy ass whore typical of your kind:lol:
     
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    They corrected it for urban bias. Muslims live in cities predominantly and on all above indicators lag behind Hindus living in urban areas.
     
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    I don't know the relevance of this post art to demographic siege which Hindus are facing but this gives a valuable tool to counter the bs peddled by the leftist slimebags for selling Hindu interest to Muslims further
     
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    SC can even strike that down if it alters the fundamentals of the constitution.

    Unless the govt. is ready to fire SC judges and fill it with their own people, what you want is unlikely to pass. 2 child policy will give you the expected results i.e. blunt Muslim growth rate.
     
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    I have read many articles on this congress fraud called Sachar committee, the judge sachar was a mere tool used by congress to file this totally fraudulent report which formed the basis of MMS claiming that minorities have first right to resources speech.

    And this report is the basis on which majority community is painted as devil for perpetuating the "backwardness among minority"!!!

    If you read the entire link many shocking truths will be revealed.
     
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